HP Omen 32" QHD Monitor - 2560x1440, 5ms, 75Hz freesync, VA panel

Archaea said:
You can only use the freesync in quick view setting "Gaming-Freesync", or "Custom" mode if you modify "Gaming-FreeSync mode. If in anyother mode you can't select Freesync. Yes your 295 should be compatible with freesync.
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I'm not understanding this. It only enables itself when a application such as a game triggers it?

What do i have to modify? I see that it has selected its native refresh rate to 75hz 1440p but the information tab for the monitor shows its set at 60hz.
 
fruitsadistG said:
Match display source to display, huh ? Couldn't find anything about that on Google, teach me senpai !

I uploaded a before and after changing the Video Level setting: clearly the Limited looks nicer.
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EDIT: Here's the same image on the AOC (default settings) if anyone's interested:
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I hope you aren't saying that washed out first picture and the AOC picture look nicer? No way. The blacks are way better on the second picture, which would appear to be either full (or you have mismatched settings between the two.) Here is some reading for you.

https://pcmonitors.info/articles/correcting-hdmi-colour-on-nvidia-and-amd-gpus/
https://www.howtogeek.com/285277/how-to-avoid-washed-out-colors-when-using-hdmi-on-your-pc/
http://lifehacker.com/how-to-get-better-picture-quality-from-your-home-theate-1700412363

^ some reading.

I have a home theater setup - and I set my PS3 and PS4 and Xbox 360 to full. Limited makes my projector, Panasonic AE8000U, look washed out by comparison. Same for my AMD card on my PC to my projector. DEFINATELY full is the way to go for my system.
 
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Mayseffect said:
I'm not understanding this. It only enables itself when a application such as a game triggers it?

What do i have to modify? I see that it has selected its native refresh rate to 75hz 1440p but the information tab for the monitor shows its set at 60hz.
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To get 75Hz
You have to change the refresh rate for the monitor manually once...right click on the desktop, click display settings, highlight your monitor, click advanced display settings, click display adapter properties, click monitor tab, change refresh rate to 75Hz via the drop down, click ok.

To get Freesync
Open AMD Catalyst drivers by right clicking on the desktop and left clicking on AMD Radeon Settings.
Click display along the top and use the slider to turn freesync on.
Freesync does NOT require a game to be enabled. but it DOES require you to use the monitor menu to turn it to either "gaming-freesync" or Custom. You can't slide the toggle switch to on, unless you are in gaming-freesync mode on your HP Omen 32 - found in the monitor GUI. You can't be in photo or text, or whatever else for free-sync to work on this monitor. Use the quick view menu on your monitor to go to "gaming-freesync" mode, and then you should be able to turn on freesync in the catalyst driver display menu.
 
Mayseffect said:
I'm not understanding this. It only enables itself when a application such as a game triggers it?

What do i have to modify? I see that it has selected its native refresh rate to 75hz 1440p but the information tab for the monitor shows its set at 60hz.
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The Omen 32 has 3 or 4 different display modes that can be changed via the on-screen menu accessed by the buttons behind the monitor. One of those modes is called Gaming-FreeSync. To set it, press the top button that's on the back of the monitor to bring up the on-screen menu display. Then, press the 2nd-to-top button that's on the back of the monitor to access the display-mode menu - from which you can select Gaming-Freesync as the display-mode.
 
Well i see what the problem is now. The quick display option isn't in the actual menu. I automatically reprogrammed the buttons to something else so i couldn't find the quick menu page.


Thanks for the help.

As of now though, can't say that i'm all that impressed...The colors don't seem to be on par with the dell, and the overall brightness of the screen is not as good either as IPS either. I think i understand the issues the other guy was talking about with his eyes hurting. I don't think it has anything to do with flickering, but the brightness. Even at the recommended 30% brightness level the heat and emitted light is just pretty harsh.

Also it doesn't seem like applications are scaling that well to 1440p. Youtube and other video hosting sites are not displaying videos at a relative quality, which is making the video overall worse.

As many have stated though, the black levels do seem to be significantly superior to that of my older IPS panel, but that's about it. :(
 
Another small update.

After a few 25 minute sessions in Project cars, F1 2013 and Battlefield 4. I can say the freesync and bump in refresh rate is working as advertised. Not a single stutter or harsh frame drop at all! Only small issue i noticed is that there seems to be a bit more motion blur. I'm not too sold on the "black" vibrancy. It's starting to look a bit grayish and washed out. I probably need to keep playing with contrast settings.
I set it to some recommended settings someone posted earlier, and that seemed to work okay.

Heat went up marginally from the gpu (130 to 140ish ambient). The brightness seems to be the only problem as of now. The resolution scaled as expected from 27" 1080p to a 32" 1440p. The resolution isn't "WOW"
impressive like the 40" 4k philips i tested previously. But the smoothness and proper size is very much a win in my book.

will need to test GTA V and Far Cry 4 to see if i can get close to disrupting the smoothness.
 
You are basically talking about the generic difference between IPS technology and VA technology.

Color accuracy
IPS>VA>TN
Black Levels
VA>TN>IPS
Pixel speed
TN = best generically, but lots of individual variances in panels.
(The Dell 3014 had the least motion blur I've ever seen on a non TN LCD)

I tested the Omen against the Dell 3014, my previous monitor for the last 2+ years. Yes the Dell had a slightly better picture and color accuracy,and even less (No?) motion blur.
But,
The superior black level and lack of IPS glow, the higher refresh rate, and most importantantly, the freesync smoothness ultimately won me over. I sold the Dell. I use contrast 80, brightness 30 on my Omen from the gaming-freesync setting, making it custom and it works great. I've got 460 hours on mine now and am still quite pleased with it.

My comparison here:
 
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Archaea said:
I hope you aren't saying that washed out first picture and the AOC picture look nicer? No way. The blacks are way better on the second picture, which would appear to be either full (or you have mismatched settings between the two.) Here is some reading for you.

https://pcmonitors.info/articles/correcting-hdmi-colour-on-nvidia-and-amd-gpus/
https://www.howtogeek.com/285277/how-to-avoid-washed-out-colors-when-using-hdmi-on-your-pc/
http://lifehacker.com/how-to-get-better-picture-quality-from-your-home-theate-1700412363

^ some reading.

I have a home theater setup - and I set my PS3 and PS4 and Xbox 360 to full. Limited makes my projector, Panasonic AE8000U, look washed out by comparison. Same for my AMD card on my PC to my projector. DEFINATELY full is the way to go for my system.
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No lol, the 2nd picture is indeed the Omen 32 with the video level set to Limited.
The setting can be accessed under Image Control
 
There must be something wrong then. I read the articles you suggested, thanks btw, and changed some settings but Limited still looks better than full. I'll give HP a call. in any case, I will be keeping the HP Omen 32 over the AOC, that's for sure. Now, if I can figure out this color depth nonsense on the HP, I'll rate this monitor a definite keeper.
 
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Ok so apparently Video Level appears only when the monitor is connected via HDMI. The Video Level setting disappears when using DP... weird
Also, colors are somehow different when using either DP or HDMI...
 
Archaea said:
You are basically talking about the generic difference between IPS technology and VA technology.

Color accuracy
IPS>VA>TN
Black Levels
VA>TN>IPS
Pixel speed
TN = best generically, but lots of individual variances in panels.
(The Dell 3014 had the least motion blur I've ever seen on a non TN LCD)

I tested the Omen against the Dell 3014, my previous monitor for the last 2+ years. Yes the Dell had a slightly better picture and color accuracy,and even less (No?) motion blur.
But,
The superior black level and lack of IPS glow, the higher refresh rate, and most importantantly, the freesync smoothness ultimately won me over. I sold the Dell. I use contrast 80, brightness 30 on my Omen from the gaming-freesync setting, making it custom and it works great. I've got 460 hours on mine now and am still quite pleased with it.
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I see your point, but i'm not in total agreement about the black levels being superior. Overall the grey scale seems to be worse. The black in general seems darker, but not nearly as accurate and seems to wash out some detail. The brightness is overall harsher, making the grey and white contrast a bit too harsh and causing some discomfort to the eyes. The clarity in the contrast is not as good either compared to IPS. Which is generally what people seem to be complaining about when going away from an IPS monitor.

The lower brightness level doesn't seem to be that good for me, unless the room is really dark. I think this monitor would benefit from some adaptive lighting features. or at least a brightness preset button. I think the anti-glare coating isn't helping this either. It seems to make the image quality flatter in comparison to my gloss panel.
 
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fruitsadistG said:
Ok so apparently Video Level appears only when the monitor is connected via HDMI. The Video Level setting disappears when using DP... weird
Also, colors are somehow different when using either DP or HDMI...
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hmm interesting.

I've only ever used display port for my connections.

Maybe I'm incorrect, but it was my understanding that HDMI 1.4 didn't have the bandwidth to transfer 14440p at 75hz? So you needed to use display port in order to take full advantage of the monitors capability.

That also explains why I didn't see full or limited as an option in the monitor menu.

So what color differences are you seeing?
 
I kinda agree with the post above but to me, the difference isn't as striking as Mayseffect suggests it is, minimal at best. Again, there isn't much options for a monitor of that size @1440p. The next jump is basically a 32" @4k for over ~$1k+ or 30" @1600p for again, ~$1k+.

So I'm posting this reply as an update to my aforementioned issue. For some reasons, the monitor outputs a different color tone with my nvidia GPU (780Ti) than with my HTPC with Intel HD iGPU.
Below, 3 pictures (by order): Eizo (ips monitor), HP Omen w/ Intel, HP omen w/ nvidia and HP omen w/intel + limited range
Eizo.jpg HP with Intel.jpg HP with nVidia.jpgIMG_20170414_190542.jpg

EDIT: added a 4th pic. At this point, using HDMI on intel gpu + setting to limited range is not beneficial, information is lost.
EDIT2: I intend to get an AMD RX4xx card to see if the colors change or not. Will update soon, may be after Easter.
 
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Ok, so I did some tests and it appears that the color tone thing is due to my video card (fuck!) and not the monitor. If anyone knows why, please tell me !! Really don't feel like buying a new card.

Anyhow, the HP Omen 32 is a very good monitor. In my case, the colors and picture quality is on par with my calibrated Eizo FS2333 so I'm definitely enjoying the deeper blacks on top of that. For the price, it's def a steal. I have decided to keep the monitor :)
 
Ok, for all nvidia gpu owners, I invite you to glance upon this thread:

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/427669-nvidia-vs-amd-color-quality/

TDL: nVidia had an issue with HDMI not outputting a correct RGB range hence the washed out colors observed in the pictures I provided above. This issue also made blacks look weak and contrast, low. Apparently there's a fix.

Mystery solved!

Finally, I tried an AMD RX480 and to no surprise, colors looked a tad better.
 
Another small update.

Changed the kelvin level in the crimson display settings from 5600k to 6500k and the warm glow and subsequent eye strain from the screen was significantly diminished. The warm tinge was really making my eyes work hard. The change in cooler temp also didn't negatively effect the overall color accuracy as i thought it would.
 
Hi all! So what is the input lag like for this monitor when using NVIDIA cards?

I am referring to input lag, not response time or the Hz of the monitor.

I was reading something about to get the lowest input lag the monitor has to be in game mode, but game mode only works if you have an AMD card since it enables freesync. And since NVIDIA cards don't have freesync, you are stuck not able to enable gaming mode, which means your input lag will be higher if you are using an NVIDIA card.
 
Just another small update-

Happy to report no major issues with this monitor thus far.

one thing i failed to actually point out (which is a good thing) is that there are no light bleed issues or burn in on the screen. I'm guessing this is one of the benefits of a VA monitor. The brightness uniformity is pretty excellent and the transitions from dark to bright is pretty smooth. Only caveat is that there is a bit of grey haze at times and the color gradient is not nearly as good as my dell's (U2415 and S2740L). I guess that is problem with a 8bit color.

Last complaint is the menu buttons and placement is becoming extremely annoying. Why companies are putting the buttons on the back is utterly retarded. I understand the need/want to get rid of bezel size and thus the reason removing it from the face. But atleast put on on the top or bottom or better yet, MAKE A REMOTE!
 
Mayseffect said:
Just another small update-

Happy to report no major issues with this monitor thus far.

one thing i failed to actually point out (which is a good thing) is that there are no light bleed issues or burn in on the screen. I'm guessing this is one of the benefits of a VA monitor. The brightness uniformity is pretty excellent and the transitions from dark to bright is pretty smooth. Only caveat is that there is a bit of grey haze at times and the color gradient is not nearly as good as my dell's (U2415 and S2740L). I guess that is problem with a 8bit color.

Last complaint is the menu buttons and placement is becoming extremely annoying. Why companies are putting the buttons on the back is utterly retarded. I understand the need/want to get rid of bezel size and thus the reason removing it from the face. But atleast put on on the top or bottom or better yet, MAKE A REMOTE!
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I notice that the Omen 32 does 10-bit colour at 60hz, and at the 62 hz that I have mine set to right now. But I couldn't enable 10-bit colour at 72, 73, 75 hz. I wonder why that is.
 
Delicieuxz said:
I notice that the Omen 32 does 10-bit colour at 60hz, and at the 62 hz that I have mine set to right now. But I couldn't enable 10-bit colour at 72, 73, 75 hz. I wonder why that is.
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Display port bandwidth?
 
Anyone using this monitor with an NVIDIA card know what kind of input lag they are getting? I heard it is lower with AMD cards due to being able to use game mode.
 
SoupyFlow said:
Anyone using this monitor with an NVIDIA card know what kind of input lag they are getting? I heard it is lower with AMD cards due to being able to use game mode.
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i don't see how that would make much of a difference if the refresh rate is lower and the framing pacing is worse.
 
Mayseffect said:
i don't see how that would make much of a difference if the refresh rate is lower and the framing pacing is worse.
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Hi! I just heard there was a "game mode" with the HP Omen 32, but that game mode requires a freesync AMD video card. The game mode like tv's game mode reduces the input lag. But since NVIDIA cards don't have freesync you can't turn on game mode on the HP Omen 32 if you are using a NVIDIA card. Which would make the input lag higher for NVIDIA users since they cant enable game mode.

Any truth to this?
 
SoupyFlow said:
Hi! I just heard there was a "game mode" with the HP Omen 32, but that game mode requires a freesync AMD video card. The game mode like tv's game mode reduces the input lag. But since NVIDIA cards don't have freesync you can't turn on game mode on the HP Omen 32 if you are using a NVIDIA card. Which would make the input lag higher for NVIDIA users since they cant enable game mode.

Any truth to this?
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The Gaming Free-Sync mode on the Omen 32 can be enabled with an Nvidia GPU - it just won't utilize the Free-Sync, and so a person will likely use in-game v-sync, or Nvidia v-sync, both of which will increase input lag a bit.
 
Delicieuxz said:
The Gaming Free-Sync mode on the Omen 32 can be enabled with an Nvidia GPU - it just won't utilize the Free-Sync, and so a person will likely use in-game v-sync, or Nvidia v-sync, both of which will increase input lag a bit.
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Awesome good to know! I have a Nvidia card but have really been wanting to check this monitor out. Input lag on it has been my biggest concern before ordering one. :)
 
had a buddy get one and he said he is having problems using his 480 card.
It won't stay on 75 refresh in monitor settings has anyone else seen this?
I thought maybe a 480 wasn't good enough to drive this monitor.

ps just checked and he is using a dp cable.
I told him to update to a new 580, I was sure that extra 1 fps would make a big difference or maybe an Nvidia 1060 he told me to go F#$$%^ myself...LOL
amd people have no since of humor
 
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I know with Nvidia cards, if you have a custom resolution setup for say 75Hz or whatever, after doing a driver update a lot of times that gets wiped out. You then just have to simply recreate the custom resolution.
 
Is it possible to access and modify a monitor's firmware - thinking of the Omen 32 in particular, here.
 
Anyone with this monitor or the Pavilion version that doesn't plan on using there VESA adapter please PM and let me know what you'd want for it.
 
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