DuronBurgerMan
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My apologies,
DBM
My apologies,
DBM
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Well that's a lot of typing for being wrong.
Well that's a lot of typing for being wrong.
You attempted to have a logical conversation in the land of holy wars. Don't like Ryzen then dont but one.What did I get wrong?
I was disappointed that it did not perform felatio as well.
A few users reported better performance despite the lower memory clock after the agesa update, but I suppose that may have come from elsewhere.
No it isn't. It's a completely new architecture. Gonna have some growing pains.
You gave no examples, other than 64gb of ram. which is a complete non point.
You contradict yourself here, saying with optomization, it will be between Haswell-E and Broadwell-E... which cost twice as much.
Deal with it. OCing isn't a guarantee.
Sure they can.
So you mean having options is a bad thing..... riiight.
Bullshit. Right now AMD is killing it on both for anyone that uses their PC for something other than gaming. And Ryzen 3 and the APU lineup will be the value KING if they keep on this trend.
Feature Set is Lacking
Overclocking is Crap
Wasn't this bad with Intel. You'd have to go all the way back to the P3 1.13 to find a f*ckup this bad in Intel's stack.
Sure, it doesn't have the bells and whistles you want. How 'bout we make sure that only systems that can support 12 SATA devices are available? Or mandate that USB 3.1 is necessary on all new products? Otherwise, don't waste your money, because someone may want to run a NAS off that board without having to buy an add-on card AND at the same time plug in a super-fast USB device that doesn't yet exist?
I laugh every time I see this. So what if 4.0Ghz is the OC ceiling? I don't care if you come out with a chip that can be OC'd to 10Ghz, if it doesn't perform as well. There are plenty of 3.5-4.0Ghz + processors out there, that do not perform nearly as well as Ryzen or Kaby Lake. Clock speed DOES NOT equal performance. If it performs as good or better at a lower clock speed, then it's an equal or better processor, regardless of overclocking.
You have spent the last 6 weeks defending Ryzen to the hilt, now you don't like it. So were you talking BS then or now?
Ryzen 7 and x370 are not the competitor to x99 - anyone who thinks that it is deluded, its been posted in other threads that R7 and x370 is designed to compete with the feature set of z270, the fact that the cpu has more cores is just a bonus. The x99 equivalent parts will not be out until later in the year
Wasn't this bad with Intel. You'd have to go all the way back to the P3 1.13 to find a f*ckup this bad in Intel's stack.
It's not a non-point. It's a major issue for heavy workstation use. You need gobs of RAM for that duty. Hell, I was scrimping by going with 32. I really should have bought 64. If you do a lot of work in 3dsmax, you'll hit that ceiling quick. Hell, even After Effects and Premiere can easily use more than that.
Also, SATA support is weaker. And good luck trying to run dual NVMe drives and a decent GPU. You'll run out of lanes.
No, only in certain ideal throughput scenarios, with maximum multi-threaded support, do you see this. Gaming doesn't even approach that level of throughput. Much more latency dependent, and in latency dependent tasks, Ryzen is basically Sandy Bridge. Juanrga put it this way: in gaming and latency sensitive tasks, Ryzen is Sandy-like. In heavy throughput tasks, Ryzen is Haswell-like.
Still disappointing.
AMD said that with Bulldozer too, we all know how that ended up.
I wish AMD did better. I really do. Don't take any of this sh*t as an endorsement of Intel -- I have a beef with them, too. I'm sick of these 5% IPC and clock rate bumps. Ryzen may be a Sandy Bridge, or more charitably, a Haswell in some circumstances. But it's not like Intel really distanced itself from SB either. The Kaby Lake is what, 20-30% better IPC? Blech.
[/QUOTE]They will be the VALUE king. That's what I mean. They will be great budget CPUs, but not really Performance CPUs.
X99 launch was terrible
Agreed, but they also have the potential to kick intels teeth in with some more refinements and the roumors of the new chipset with quad channel, and possible 16/32 consumer CPU
Its disappointing to read this, cause this is basically a summary of the flaws of Ryzen that every review I've heard has mentioned.
Did you decide to eat up AMD's marketing wholesale?
The only reason your disillusioned is because you ate up the marketing, the fanboy dreams, and when the product came out, your dreams were crushed.
Look it happens. Just remember to underestimate, don't believe the hype. And wait for reviews.
Was it really this bad? Weekly BIOS updates, monthly microcode updates, and huge RAM compatibility issues?
I was disappointed that it did not perform felatio as well.
This thread... smh.
That's what 480's were for.I lol'd at this, even though burning up $1500 worth of parts is decidedly NOT funny.
Well at least we can give Ryzen that. It didn't blow up or melt any motherboards yet.
Yeah... maybe I'm overreacting a bit. But I'm seeing this sh*t in an entirely different light now. Rose-colored enthusiast glasses came off.
What? Let me guess you didn't have your SandyBridge MB recalled?
Nope. WTH, man? Have the Gods of Computing been watching over my builds or something? I mean f*ck... No problems with my SB build. No problems with this build except sh*tty AMD microcode updates.
But... apparently everyone else has tons of problems. That sucks, man.
The B3 recall was only one of the biggest recalls in history lmao.
And somehow I missed it, because my sh*t worked fine and I stopped paying attention afterward.
Or maybe your clueless and lucked out and got in after the B3 fiasco. Ignorance is bliss they say.
Btw... and the rumor is they are using NDA to quash rumors... lol ironic.
https://www.extremetech.com/computi...0-bug-killing-products-multiple-manufacturers
...unless you go to fleabay looking for used Xeons's.
Or maybe your clueless and lucked out and got in after the B3 fiasco. Ignorance is bliss they say.
What I can gather from posts like this is that the only good CPUs Intel makes are 7700k and 6900k and everything else is worthless crap. I don't know why they bother with other models at all and AMD has no place whatsoever.
LOL @ used Xeons. "Hey man, wanna buy some Xeons?"