Samsung Galaxy 8 Launches Today and the Tame Apple Press is Terrified

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TechEye has an editorial documenting the Tame Apple Press at Reuters leaning towards the new Apple iPhone and admonishing the new Samsung S8. Reading the Reuters quotes is hilarious as they keep telling their readers to wait on buying the Samsung S8 for several months to make sure that the battery situation from the Samsung Note 7 has been remedied. Never mind that this is a completely new phone offering from Samsung and they have literally spent $135 million on improvements and studies to make sure that the issue doesn't occur again. The Reuters article pounds the battery safety issue over and over with quotes from consumers stating that what are they looking for most from Samsung is, "A non exploding phone."

The Tame Apple Press at Reuters is so pro Apple that they suggest that Samsung shouldn't delve into the new functionality and features of the new Samsung S8; rather they should concentrate on battery safety at their unveiling. Other quotes from the Reuters article include, "Downplaying the battery safety issue may also be a sensible marketing option as the new quality measures can't guarantee there will be no future problems. Any failure rate would likely be very low at first." Reuters admits that Samsung even pushed back the launch of their new product to ensure safety is their first priority, but that didn't satisfy the Tame Apple Press. They want more than the new X-RAY system that Samsung implemented to ensure battery safety as using X-RAY images to find potential faults isn't good enough for the Tame Apple Press at Reuters.

How much more wearing of their heart on their sleeves can the Tame Apple Press at Reuters do? TechEye suggests that Samsung should sue them for suggesting that the new phone will catch fire. To what extent are fanboys allowed to write articles on major websites that proclaim to cover the news. Adding humor by highlighting a previous shortcoming is one thing; Reuters was being malicious in my opinion. I think it should be taken down with an apology sent to Samsung. How do you feel about it? How much bias it too much? Don't forget to check out the Samsung S8 features article that was posted earlier. Lots of good stuff in it!

Downplaying the battery safety issue may also be a sensible marketing option as the new quality measures can't guarantee there will be no future problems. Any failure rate would likely be very low at first.

Samsung said last year it confirmed just 140 faulty batteries in more than 3 million Note 7s it sold - fewer than five in every 100,000. "How confident are they that they can actually find a faulty cell with these additional checks," said Venkat Viswanathan, assistant professor at Carnegie Mellon and a battery technology expert. "It's sort of finding a needle in a haystack."

Some analysts expect the S8, expected to go on sale next month, to outsell the Galaxy S7, which was Samsung's best seller in its first year from launch. Others, though, say consumers may prefer to wait a few months before buying, just to be sure the new phones are safe.
 
To be fair: Waiting a month or two to buy a new phone probably is smart no matter what. A lot of phones have early issues. Samsung, LG, Apple, etc, all have had their major screwups that make it worth playing the wait and see game. At least in my opinion. The rest of Reuters' article is complete crap though. Unfortunately battery issues can happen. At least Samsung didn't tell users they were holding their phones wrong or something when confronted with reports of a major issue on their phone. With the, well deserved, beating Samsung took to their reputation following the Note 7 I guarantee you that the tech press is going to play up any little issue that happens with the S8. So it's going to be fun trying to tell fact from fiction with that phone for a while.
 
I'd focus on how shitty their software is. Seriously. It's Samsung's 2nd biggest weakness behind the exploding batteries. I wish the mainstream press would go into that more instead of always using the same non-real-world benchmarks.
 
I'd focus on how shitty their software is. Seriously. It's Samsung's 2nd biggest weakness behind the exploding batteries. I wish the mainstream press would go into that more instead of always using the same non-real-world benchmarks.
by software you mean the UI ? if yes, seriously what was your last galaxy/note you had ? S3 ? S5 ?, did you even get your hands on a S7 edge to actualy see how it is ?
the S6 was a solid improvement over previous gens, but 7edge is one of the best UI i used on a phone so far(from my old iphone 5, and my gf's iphone7 )
 
I'd focus on how shitty their software is. Seriously. It's Samsung's 2nd biggest weakness behind the exploding batteries. I wish the mainstream press would go into that more instead of always using the same non-real-world benchmarks.

As a Note 5 user, I support this. Don't know why there are so many Samsung fanboys out there. Samsung software is shite, and basically redundant compared to what Google offers.
 
Lol the increasingly irrelevant fake news is just driving itself into the ground. If something doesn't fit the narrative or commercial interests of said media groups, it's bad/it's obviously a russian made phone personally designed by the God emperor himself.

Reuters. Enough said.
 
To be fair: Waiting a month or two to buy a new...
That's good advice for purchasing just about anything.
For cars it used to be never buy the first model year.
Anyone that thinks the new phone will have an issue with the battery exploding has not been following this story.

When it comes to new Samsung Android phones my main concern would be how long am I guaranteed to get new operating system upgrades and security updates.
 
Personally, (and mind you, I'm on Windows Phone so I don;t have a horse in this race) I feel that Samsung deserves all the guff they are getting. The Exploding S7 issue should NEVER have made it out of factory design testing. These things had the potential to cause serious damages to both people and property. It has been my personal experience (YMMV, naturally) that Samsung products tend to fail just after warranty expiration (HDD, RAM, and even a freaking film camera). I even had a Samsung 17" CRT monitor whose VGA cable (built-in, of course) had little-to-no shielding and picked up interference from everything.

It just seems (again, to my personal experience) they cut too many corners to make a buck, and so I haven't (deliberately) purchased any Samsung products for a few years now. It seems they cut one corner too many with the S7.
 
I'd focus on how shitty their software is. Seriously. It's Samsung's 2nd biggest weakness behind the exploding batteries. I wish the mainstream press would go into that more instead of always using the same non-real-world benchmarks.

Why would the mainstream press focus on UI? Let's be blunt here: The UI matters fuck all to anyone outside of the enthusiast community that has a raging boner for stock Android. The sales of Android devices spell one thing out clearly: Stock Android devices don't sell. Nexus phones were never super popular, the Google Play Edition program was a complete failure, Android One was a failure, the Pixel phones will not be super successful. No one outside of the tiny enthusiast community cares about stock Android.

The top five Android companies in the world are:

Samsung
Huawei
Oppo
Xiaomi
Lenovo

Lenovo's ownership of Motorola gives them a grand total of 4.2% of the marketshare. Outside of whatever small number of phones Motorola sells are the only things on that list close to stock. Lenovo's own phones have a custom UI as do the others.
 
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by software you mean the UI ? if yes, seriously what was your last galaxy/note you had ? S3 ? S5 ?, did you even get your hands on a S7 edge to actualy see how it is ?
the S6 was a solid improvement over previous gens, but 7edge is one of the best UI i used on a phone so far(from my old iphone 5, and my gf's iphone7 )

No. Just... no. I have a Note 4, my wife has an S6, and I was curious enough to give the S7 a shot. Is it better than previous generations? Sure. Is it good? Hell no. All of Samsung's improvements are awkward compared to stock Android, and it still occasionally lags. Unacceptable, in my opinion. I love their OLED screens, but now that other phones have them I'm never going back to Samsung unless they put stock android on their phones (maybe LIGHTLY modified for Knox integration). The edge screens are baffling to me as well, but that's another topic.
 
i'm slightly confused.

do people not know they can use the google now launcher and have the stock android feel on an any android phone?

even my asus zenfone 2 laser looks like a vanilla android phone.
 
Until Samsung ditches that craptastic touchwiz and commits to timely security updates I won't buy one of their phones. They're just as pricey as iphones so no advantage for samsung there.
 
Samsung's hardware is great - can't argue that*. For me, when this S4 dies, I'm done with Samsung.
Here's why...

Phone:
Awful UI
Ridiculous amount of uninstallable apps taking up space (don't get me started on carrier apps)
Samsung ecosystem - no thanks
Battery issues - but betting they learned their lesson there

*SSD:
1TB Evo died after a month. I get a freaking refurb! Literally 1 day out of vendor replacement.

TV:
Picture is beautiful yes but...
The plastic shell is warped
I get served ads when connected to the internet (at least without a pi-hole)
All sorts of spying options for Samsung and CIA

Are there any companies out there with balls to give the government and advertisers the finger? And listen to their PAYING customers?
Didn't think so - instead the corps give the big Finger to its customers.

It's just downright depressing. Make me CEO for a day -- I'll fix some fix some shit good!
 
I've had the GS6 for 2 years now. What UI issues is everyone talking about?
 
I've had the GS6 for 2 years now. What UI issues is everyone talking about?
The ones they had 5 year ago.

If apple really did tell reuters to write this article then the next iphone will be nothing more than an iphone 7s with similar improvements the iphone 7 had.
 
Why would the mainstream press focus on UI? Let's be blunt here: The UI matters fuck all to anyone outside of the enthusiast community that has a raging boner for stock Android. The sales of Android devices spell one thing out clearly: Stock Android devices don't sell. Nexus phones were never super popular, the Google Play Edition program was a complete failure, Android One was a failure, the Pixel phones will not be super successful. No one outside of the tiny enthusiast community cares about stock Android.

Maybe if the press focused more on the UI then more people would care, and maybe that's why they should.
 
Wow... that was some Cringy Apple Hatred right there. Well done, techeye, for railing against a South Korean business correspondent -- who's reported on nothing but South Korean businesses in the last year -- for reporting on a South Korean business.
 
Yeah,

I've got an S7... There are times the UI is so unresponsive with Power Saver on... It's a freaking phone. Don't give me the "well it has to downclock" horseshit. It's a fucking phone. My girlfriend's Iphone 5 doesn't have that shit.

Meh.
 
Still somehow going to run like shit. I flipped my S7 only a couple weeks after purchase because of how poor it ran. Samsung takes the latest greatest hardware and somehow manages to make it run everything like shit.
 
by software you mean the UI ? if yes, seriously what was your last galaxy/note you had ? S3 ? S5 ?, did you even get your hands on a S7 edge to actualy see how it is ?
the S6 was a solid improvement over previous gens, but 7edge is one of the best UI i used on a phone so far(from my old iphone 5, and my gf's iphone7 )

I had an S5 and my wife has an S7 right now. I have to deal with 6's and 7's at work all the time, too. All suffer from the same issues. Duplicated apps that were designed in the Kit Kat era. They're slow (especially anything that loads thumbnails), ugly, and they're impossible to get rid of. That pull-down is still Kit Kat era, too. That doesn't even factor in their duplicated store and skinned up versions of Google's default apps that are rarely updated and are bloated to focus on your Samsung account on top of Google's. That's the biggest problem with Samsung's software. It's Android, but it's trying too hard to make Samsung's inferior apps/account/store front and center for everything.

The public never complains about it because they don't know any better. There are almost no pure Android phones (especially in the US) so most people have no idea what they're missing. The Nexus devices were poorly marketed, the Pixel costs a fortune (and still has supply issues), and the others are one death's door or aren't in the typical Best Buy or carrier store. It's a bit like using Windows 95 on a custom built machine after rocking a Packard Bellor or Compaq PC running their awful skinned front end sitting on top of it. Before their fall from grace, that was all a ton of people ever knew and they sold a ton of machines because they were what was on the shelf.
 
It. Did. Not. Launch. Today.

Sorry, but this is one of my pet peeves. The phone was ANNOUNCED. Until it's available to the public, it hasn't "launched."
 
Personally, (and mind you, I'm on Windows Phone so I don;t have a horse in this race) I feel that Samsung deserves all the guff they are getting. The Exploding S7 issue should NEVER have made it out of factory design testing. These things had the potential to cause serious damages to both people and property. It has been my personal experience (YMMV, naturally) that Samsung products tend to fail just after warranty expiration (HDD, RAM, and even a freaking film camera). I even had a Samsung 17" CRT monitor whose VGA cable (built-in, of course) had little-to-no shielding and picked up interference from everything.

It just seems (again, to my personal experience) they cut too many corners to make a buck, and so I haven't (deliberately) purchased any Samsung products for a few years now. It seems they cut one corner too many with the S7.


Based on my experience (Phones and Tablets) Samsung make great devices.

My Samsung S3 lasted over 3 years, until I replaced it with a Note 4. Main reason I replaced it was due to the lack of updated (stuck at 4.3)
My Note 4 is now over a year old and still looks/works like new. They did offer upgrades to 6.01, so I think it will be good for a couple more years.

Wife uses a Samsung Tablet that was a huge improvement over her 3 year old Acer (also stuck at version 4.x)
 
Maybe if the press focused more on the UI then more people would care, and maybe that's why they should.

Incorrect. The mass public knows what they want: A phone that works with the features they like. The public will NEVER care about specs. They will NEVER care if a phone is stock or has a custom UI. All of us in the enthusiast community love to pretend that everyone is like us and like to pretend that if we bitch loud enough people will listen. It's not going to happen, ever. You will never convince the general public to care about those things because it's simply not important to them. And there is nothing wrong with that. They buy what they like and enjoy it, simple as that. All the ins and outs simply don't interest them. The enthusiast community is about as out of touch with the rest of the world as we can be.
 
Note 7 != S7

The S8 is the successor to the S7, not the Note 7 (which had the issue).

People don't seem to grasp that (I've talked to many who ask "should I worry about my S7?).
 
From one fanboy bashing another fanboy. It takes one to know one. Six of one and half a dozen of the other. Pot calling kettle black. etc, etc.

If I'm in the market for an S8 and knowing the battery issue with S7, I would have waited at least a few months to see if the battery problem has really been fixed as Samsung claims. No way would I have bought it on the day it is released.

I have to admit though, the comments so far in this thread is significantly different than before. Maybe the S7 battery issue took the air completely out of Samsung. Normally our [H] readers would have tore Apple a new one with this article.
 
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The press really shouldn't go on about the battery issue....

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"Tamed" Apple press, rather, I think.

That was a pleasure to read, by the way: a breath of fresh air from the sterile 10-word "articles" and commentary in most tech sites nowadays. Nice stylized editorial writing.
 
From one fanboy bashing another fanboy. It takes one to know one. Six of one and half a dozen of the other. Pot calling kettle black. etc, etc.

If I'm in the market for an S8 and knowing the battery issue with S7, I would have waited at least a few months to see if the battery problem has really been fixed as Samsung claims. No way would I have bought it on the day it is released.

I have to admit though, the comments so far in this thread is significantly different than before. Maybe the S7 battery issue took the air completely out of Samsung. Normally our [H] readers would have tore Apple a new one with this article.

A couple incorrect items here. First, there was never an issue with the battery, it functioned the same as all Lithium-ion batteries do. The problem was that Samsung designed the phone without the proper spacing needed for the battery to expand. Second, the issue was not with the S7, it was with the Note. This is like saying a problem with a Chevy Camaro should be expected in a Cadillac CTS. Just because the same company owns both product lines doesn't mean a problem with one is universal to all the companies products.



Anybody else kinda turned off by the paragraphs of front page opinions that [H] is doing now?
 
I have a Note 10.1 2014 and Touchwiz lags a lot :S

TV:
Picture is beautiful yes but...
The plastic shell is warped
I get served ads when connected to the internet (at least without a pi-hole)
All sorts of spying options for Samsung and CIA

Nice, you get ads in your TV? :O
 
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