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hello SaperPL! I have ordered a white sentry and can't wait to have it. Meanwhile I'm going to have my built setup :
Ryzen 1700
Vega (hope it will have a sff version like r9 nano)
Corsair sf600
I'm intended to have my ryzen cooled by a 120mm AIO (like 1 of your pics using silverstone TD03 slim) my question is what is the clearance between the bracket and the aio ? What is the maximum height for it ? Thanks in advance.
Hello all! I just have a question about cooling. I have decided that I am going to delid my 7600k, as I do not want to have to buy a new processor. To anyone who has done this, what cooler did you use afterwards? I own a C7, and a LP-53 on the way, and wouldn't mind picking up a Noctua Low profile cooler. I also have the Strix Z270i, so mounting is sometimes an issue with the c7, and maybe with the LP53. What do you guys think I should do? I also can't use Dondans cooler as it will interfere with the strix's heatsink.
SaperPL , do you think the 150 shipping per week is pretty accurate, after april? or did I misinterpret that completely?
(means if you are buyer 700 per say, it would be 5th week shipping) ~ which means half of the backers, at least, would receive the sentry after april (more like 75% prob) - late may/early june is realistic for buyer 700
150 per week looks pretty doable at this point, but we'll have yet to see how much time will take managing those white units being painted in external shop. This might slow down first 150 batch or two until we make some kind of buffer for those.
As for the delivery date, we'll have to wait and see when we'll have everything delivered and when the first case bodies are ready to be picked up from our subcontractor. We could have all required supplies on ~April 1st or ~April 30th - lead time on delivery and planning is one thing but you always have to be prepared for unexpected delays.
Also some delays could hurt more than others - for example if we won't have the shipping packaging ready (shipping box, transport foams, packaging foil etc) but we have everything up to product packaging (the smaller box with prints on it) we might be able to process the cases mostly and buffer them up to be shipped at once in 300 or 450 burst etc. Bigger problem would be if we're missing a component that is to be installed directly within the case body or the product packaging, since we couldn't proceed with quality control until we can package the case bodies after unwrapping them or we would have to re-open each case to install missing piece.
I'm hoping manufacturers will take notice and put more thought into SFX PSUs and ITX systems in general. I've yet to see Corsair's take on a SFF case though I admit, I like the 250D!
Lp53 with noctua fanJust a general question. I'm looking at using the 7700K and since there's not a perfect out of the box cooling solution for 91TDP CPU's in sentry, could I underclock it to 3.6 like the 7700 (nonK) and go with the NHL9i until there's a better cooling solution like the dondan cooler that can handle the higher TDP. If not, I'd get the 7700, but I'd rather have the headroom later if cooling performance increases.
Also, double checking, the C7 could handle the 7700K but because of clearances in the sentry it's not recommended since it restricts airflow being the fan is so close to the case body?
Nothing is Overkill for VR. Virtual Reality requires many times to completely remove the use of Normal maps as well as removing other tricks that are most effective in 2D screens that help reduce the GPU power required. In VR you have higher detailed models, meaning more vertices on the screen than ever before. Also, in order to reduce anti-aliasing which is more noticeable in VR than in a regular screen you need super-sampling which requires even more GPU power. No GPU is too good for VR.
Trust me I am running two HTC Vives at work. One on 2 GTX 1080 in SLI and the other one on a Titan X Pascal. They are good enough, but not more than enough in some instances.
In other news dondan just got the green light from Thermalright so the CPU Cooler is becoming reality!
It will not be above 650w:After seeing some of the power and temperature benchmarks for the GTX 1080 ti today - I think I have been scared off and might stick with a 1070 . Are you going to stick with trying a 1080 ti? What PSU are you considering as it surely has to be 650w?
Yaa but the 250D is literally 5 more liters at 28 so 23 isn't really much of a improvement and is still far compared to the slim cases including Sentry.. With those choices, I'd go with the 250D.I was seriously considering the Corsiar Bulldog (23L) before discovering the Sentry. It looks like they are upgrading it for 2017, and the new H6 SF cooler looks interesting. Hopefully they'll keep developing coolers for SFF cases. I guess most companies want to keep their cases compatible with as many parts as possible and are willing to give up liters for a wider appeal.
The 394W figure Hardocp shows is total system wattage measured at the wall, so it includes ASUS Z170-A + i7 6700K @ 4.7GHz + 16GB Corsair DDR4 RAM + SSD + PSU inefficiencies. TomsHardware has power consumption of just the card at 294W peak. Its definitely a hot card especially since Nvidia raised the GTX 1080 Ti’s preset thermal throttle point to 84C. A blower style card should exhaust all the heat out the back, so it shouldn't really effect case temperatures.
Just a general question. I'm looking at using the 7700K and since there's not a perfect out of the box cooling solution for 91TDP CPU's in sentry, could I underclock it to 3.6 like the 7700 (nonK) and go with the NHL9i until there's a better cooling solution like the dondan cooler that can handle the higher TDP. If not, I'd get the 7700, but I'd rather have the headroom later if cooling performance increases.
Also, double checking, the C7 could handle the 7700K but because of clearances in the sentry it's not recommended since it restricts airflow being the fan is so close to the case body?
After seeing some of the power and temperature benchmarks for the GTX 1080 ti today - I think I have been scared off and might stick with a 1070 . Are you going to stick with trying a 1080 ti? What PSU are you considering as it surely has to be 650w?
Cool - Im a noob to this - but given then benchmarks read as high as 394w - http://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/03/09/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1080_ti_video_card_review/12
.. as VR will likely push the 1080 ti pretty far - will there be a scenario where the temperatures could potentially cause a net negative result on performance in a case like the sentry?
For me, it was all about portability, I'm going to keep my build pretty simple/cheap: i5-7500 + RX480. I mainly use my computer for browsing and Overwatch. I was willing to spend the money on the sentry because I travel frequently and the choice was between keeping my old Lenovo T430 (Overwatch: 30fps at 50% scale @ 720p) or the Sentry. Plus, unlike a laptop, I can keep upgrading components. I expect to get a decade of use out of the Sentry, since my last case, an Antec Nine Hundred, is 10+ yrs old.
I believe the powdercoating on the Sentry keeps it from rusting? That will definitely help it last longer.
You could wait for others to test their LP53 with NH-L9i fan inside Sentry depending on your order number. C7 is a great cooler but not for Sentry - we've had to shorten its screws on angle grinder to even mount it on B150N Phoenix/Skylake i7-6700 because the screws are standing way out of the ATX spec...
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In this segment you can get more powerful GTX 1060 which is 120W while RX480 is 150W and I feel like AMD was often cheating with TDP interpretation or just underestimating the power consumption of their GPUs. Add still terrible experience with radeon drivers to that of course. The only reason to buy radeon for me would either some outstanding performance per buck on the upcoming VEGA or cheaper monitors with freesync over expensive gsync.
Super/saber - do you have any recommended length for the psu cable lengths? Planning on ordering some from cablemod for my sf600
Looks super interesting, I'm waiting on vega sff cards, with HBM the card footprint will be super small, hope they will make the Vega nano version. BTW do you think that LP53 can handle Ryzen 1700 @ 3.9GHz ?I promised to give you guys some info on my 1060 6GB SC setup with Silverstone Tundra Slim 120mm AIO. I have just torn down this setup to check out another layout but I finally could make the photos required for explanations. Here it is:
It looks like this: perfectly okay from the outside, but it's real challenge and adventure to make it work especially with those thick hoses of tundra AIO.
The problem is to fit such card you have to remove the shroud and have enough luck to get the GPU radiator being slightly above the AIO radiator. obviously this makes mounting the fan on AIO even harder...
As for the 1060 6GB SC and removing the shroud - those cards had a problem where they were melting their own components by blowing hot air directly on them around the bracket. I've got the unit that has been already "patched" with two pieces of some thermal adhesive tape.
Those two pieces were originally glued to the plastic shroud and I've asked EVGA support if I can detach the shroud while peeling them off and they told me that everything should be fine for future RMA as long as I can put the card back together. I have peeled off the parts on the shroud and sticked them to the radiator itself.
The weird part is that the card's cooling is still properly working with shroud by throwing that hot air through those tight spaces that are left uncovered by tape.
That sleeved power button cable looks great. Great little detail. Will they be blue/black as pictured, or is that just the test run?
Looks super interesting, I'm waiting on vega sff cards, with HBM the card footprint will be super small, hope they will make the Vega nano version. BTW do you think that LP53 can handle Ryzen 1700 @ 3.9GHz ?