Philips BDM4350UC 43 inch 4K IPS PWM-free monitor

Talking about Philips big displays, I'm seriously considering the new BDM4037UW, as I'd prefer a VA panel. I know it's totally unsuitable for gaming but seems quite a nice display for general usage and image editing. Any experience/opinion about it?
 
Does anyone know the length between the the two stands, not sure if I can push this far back enough on my corner desk
 
Hi,

I bought two of these monitors from Amazon. One of these monitors had the burn-in issue but the other monitor has no such issue. I have now had the duff monitor replaced twice by Amazon but the original and the two replacements have the same burn-in issue. I am using these two monitors attached to the same graphics card using MS Windows 10 using an extended desktop with a light blue background. Now, it could be a coincidence and I am by no means an expert but one difference that I have noticed between the good and 'bad' monitors is that the bad monitor has a slightly lighter shade of blue compared to the blue on the good monitor even though both monitors should be the same colour. Strangely, I have noticed the same difference in all three bad monitors I have had from Amazon. I am wondering if perhaps the good and bad monitors have a different internal display???

One other issue I noticed is that the screw hole design/assembly is completely flawed. Two of the monitors had one bad hole and the screw just kept rotating without tightening!

I was wanting two good monitors but I have had enough of this whole episode and now want to get rid of both monitors (good and the bad monitor) and am thinking of returning them to Amazon.

It's just utterly incredible that Philips have such a quality control issue. I spoke to the Philips monitor section before I bought the issue and they denied the burn-in issue saying there had been a problem with a lag in playing video. I again spoke to them this week and the CS lady was just unhelpful and didn't seem to care much saying she would pass on my comments. I have also Twittered to Philips Care who wanted photos of the problem. I have therefore left my monitor to burn in to take a picture but I doubt Philips really care.

Can people please help and post any new pictures highlighting the burn-in?
Thanks,
iq
 
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You're lucky to have an IR-free panel. Maybe there are indeed two panels being used for this monitor.. I would keep the 'good' one.
 
for those who own this, does it take about 5 sec. to turn on for you to see your windows screen ? that the first 5 sec. display garbage? As that is the problem I have w/ the bdm 4065uc

also, is there another brand better than this (I don't want samsung)
 
I've found that the TV Philips 43PUS6201/12 has the exact same panel as this monitor. Does that mean that it will be as good as this, or am I horribly wrong?

And it has a bunch of TV features that this one doesn't have. Including ambilight and it's still much cheaper, how?
 
for those who own this, does it take about 5 sec. to turn on for you to see your windows screen ? that the first 5 sec. display garbage? As that is the problem I have w/ the bdm 4065uc

also, is there another brand better than this (I don't want samsung)
It does take a few seconds to turn on, but it just displays the Phillips logo during that time. Very occasionally, it displays garbage and flickers for a few seconds before displaying content, but it only happens with my Macbook Pro, never with my PC.

I've found that the TV Philips 43PUS6201/12 has the exact same panel as this monitor. Does that mean that it will be as good as this, or am I horribly wrong?

And it has a bunch of TV features that this one doesn't have. Including ambilight and it's still much cheaper, how?
The panels might be physically the same, but the firmware likely are not. No way to know except to try it.
 
The panels might be physically the same, but the firmware likely are not. No way to know except to try it.
Well that's what I'm trying to avoid. If I buy it and it sucks then I'm stuck with it
 
Well that's what I'm trying to avoid. If I buy it and it sucks then I'm stuck with it

Try and buy it from a company that has a good return policy. If possible of course.
 
Try and buy it from a company that has a good return policy. If possible of course.
Guess I'm not unabashed enough to return merchandise just because I don't like it. Maybe I'll try asking around in a store about input lag and if it has a game mode.
 
It does take a few seconds to turn on, but it just displays the Phillips logo during that time. Very occasionally, it displays garbage and flickers for a few seconds before displaying content, but it only happens with my Macbook Pro, never with my PC.


The panels might be physically the same, but the firmware likely are not. No way to know except to try it.

it happens sometimes with my PC. And I use dual Xeon + 650GTX
 
So after some thought I got a 43PUS6401/12. I choose this model because the input lag was a known quantity.

Pros:
  • 29ms input lag in game mode.
  • Full dynamic range (4:4:4) 4K@60Hz over hdmi.
  • Love the ambilight feature, I always wanted that for a monitor. And it's behaviour is widely customizable to suit your needs.
  • The 43" size is just right so I can get away with no scaling on the desktop.
  • Dedicated computer mode for input, which makes the desktop much clearer, it's basically as good as a monitor in this mode for desktop use
  • Internal upscaling is brilliant. For some reason the PC recognizes it as FHD only, and defaults to 1920x.1080. And it took me a few minutes to realize I'm not in native resolution.
Cons:
  • Response time is an issue. It can be annoying in fast paced games, so definitely not for the hardcore gamer this one.
  • Some cromatic aberration is visible in game mode due to overdrive, text becomes blurry in certain color combinations
  • Movies look too dark in standard mode, which is a minor inconvenience as I have to switch to movie preset for watching movies/tv shows fullscreen from the computer
  • Brightness setting is locked in computer mode, you can only adjust contrast / gamma / temp
  • Probably a software issue, but after switching sources it doesn't apply the previous picture preset when going back to the pc, you have to manually select game mode again (it shows it's in game mode, but the picture shown is clearly a product of different settings) (not an issue for me as I don't intend to use it for anything else but the PC)
  • Doesn't work in Wireless N mode. I had to enable B/G on the access point for it to be able to connect to the wifi.
  • Android with all of the baggage that comes with that.
 
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After further testing I declare game mode to be worthless. The response time is much better in standard mode as well, and I don't even notice the increased input lag. (46ms) So I'll stick with this.
 
I ended up returning the TV. I couldn't find a satisfying setting. It hurt my eyes. If I tried to lower the brightness to an acceptable level all low end detail was lost.

I use my current monitor on 0 brightness as well.
 
Hi,

I bought two of these monitors from Amazon. One of these monitors had the burn-in issue but the other monitor has no such issue. I have now had the duff monitor replaced twice by Amazon but the original and the two replacements have the same burn-in issue. I am using these two monitors attached to the same graphics card using MS Windows 10 using an extended desktop with a light blue background. Now, it could be a coincidence and I am by no means an expert but one difference that I have noticed between the good and 'bad' monitors is that the bad monitor has a slightly lighter shade of blue compared to the blue on the good monitor even though both monitors should be the same colour. Strangely, I have noticed the same difference in all three bad monitors I have had from Amazon. I am wondering if perhaps the good and bad monitors have a different internal display???

One other issue I noticed is that the screw hole design/assembly is completely flawed. Two of the monitors had one bad hole and the screw just kept rotating without tightening!

I was wanting two good monitors but I have had enough of this whole episode and now want to get rid of both monitors (good and the bad monitor) and am thinking of returning them to Amazon.

It's just utterly incredible that Philips have such a quality control issue. I spoke to the Philips monitor section before I bought the issue and they denied the burn-in issue saying there had been a problem with a lag in playing video. I again spoke to them this week and the CS lady was just unhelpful and didn't seem to care much saying she would pass on my comments. I have also Twittered to Philips Care who wanted photos of the problem. I have therefore left my monitor to burn in to take a picture but I doubt Philips really care.

Can people please help and post any new pictures highlighting the burn-in?
Thanks,
iq


I'm mad at Philips right now - my monitor had a beautiful panel (no bad pixels, no image retension), but it had the sparkly vertical lines so it had to go into the shop to be fixed.

I go back to pick it up, they have a *DIFFERENT* monitor waiting for me. I bring it home and sure enough image retention:

Image retention by Robert Tang-wai, on Flickr

I have called Philips, they want the photo for confirmation - they did say image retention is covered by warranty, which is good because I have had the monitor less than 2 months.

The monitor looks brand-new, not a refurb (I looked it over, not a scratch on it) which may mean all I have to do is leave it on for a few days and the IR will go down to un-noticeable levels - that picture was taken half an hour after I unboxed it.

What pisses me off is the shop claimed they did a 1-hr. image retention test and stated it was fine. Clearly they are either blind or stupid - I warned them I used to fix monitors (as a HP service tech) so they have no excuse, they knew if they lied I'd catch them.

I'm leaving the monitor on for a couple of days to see what happens - if it still bad by Monday I'll RMA it (again).
 
The Philips has a known bug,skipping a frame every 2.5 secs as per the PCMonitors review. I have no idea if the Viewsonic has this bug or not.. But they use the same panel, so you risk image retention (which has been reported with the Acer ET43k, also using TPVision panel)
 
I am using the 4035Uc since it just came out. No image retention here. The only thing I hate is the delay when I turn on the screen.

Viewsonic is not using the exact panel as Philips. The philips refresh rate is 60Hz. The viewsonic is 50 to 75Hz. So they can't be the same panel
 
Oi

Got mine.

I'm so and so about it.

the brightness is not enough, pretty dim for what I was expecting.

The burn-in happened after just 30 seconds, was awful, then it washed off, now it doesn't happen anymore - play video on it at first

The size is nice

Stand is too low .
 
This thing should have never left the factory.

Over a few dead pixels from the factory. Brightness is horrible. Colors are washed, horribly unlively, the experience with it is total sht.

There is literally nothing to like about it besides the large screen estate, which in those conditions is horrible. Most content looks awful, there is absolutely no reason to ever order it over anything. I'd much rather buy 2 x Dell 2515H something something and heep them rotated to get a better experience.

Just for the record, it looks horrible compared to a simple mobile phone, everything is extremely washed away, skin tones look like corpses and cadavers, greens look more like swamp greens, blue skies look like there is a shadow over everything, the glossy screen is actually horrible in practice, and MAN the colors look ugly.

I am generally working in many other stuffs, and I generally don't smash a product, but this took me exactly 5 hours of usage to return.

Oh, and the calibration?

Everything is blue-tinted. A STRONG BLUE TINT ON EVER WHITE AND OTHER COLOR!!!! EVEN AFTER CALIBRATION
 
If you see anyone ever recommending this, please stop there. Close the thing, slowly, and move away, just as slowly.
 
My 1.5 year report: Still working great. No burn in that I can notice. I mainly do development work on it, web browsing, and occasionally gaming when I find the time for it.
 
My 1.5 year report: Still working great. No burn in that I can notice. I mainly do development work on it, web browsing, and occasionally gaming when I find the time for it.

How do you deal with such a poor brightness and that dead color base that makes skin looks like it comes from a corpse rather than a movie actor in movies?

Mind you, mine was calibrated profesionally and still looked so bad that I can't even begin to imagine a reason why you;d stick with it.

Also, them corners are soooo darkened when compared to the screen surface. That is visible in normal light, even when you move around, yet no "owners" speak about it.

I'd even dare to say that there is about ~80 cd/m2 diference between the brightness of the surface and the corners.
 
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