Leaked AMD Ryzen Benchmarks?

razor1 said:
That is weird, pretty much know that 3200mhz is the max ram Ryzen can take but still....
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I only think Asus listed 3200Mhz. Everyone else have listed 2667Mhz as max. MSI, Biostar, Asrock etc. AMD also only demoed at 2400Mhz.
 
Chinese review site accident post review early. It has since been taken down.

https://news.xfastest.com/amd/31741/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-benchmark/



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AMD RYZEN 7 1700X performance exposure, INTEL to be careful



AMD Ryzen news everywhere, it seems from the market is not far away, we are looking forward to it with Intel a higher, so players in the procurement of CPU can have a more diverse choice. According to the current news AMD new generation Ryzen product line is quite complete, to meet more different consumers. I now have a new AMD Ryzen CPU, model Ryzen 7 1700X.



Left for the FX CPU, right for the latest AMD Ryzen 7 1700X CPU



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Back of the CPU



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Want to know the performance of the players look down !! Measured down with the opponent i7-5960X is a match!

CPU-Z seems to be 8-core 16 implementation, from the definition of Windows 10 computer administrator seems to be the core number 8, logical core 16, the core clock 3.4GHz, Turbo 3.8GHz, it is understood that the temperature is based on the frequency, L3 cache 16MB , Using DDR4 memory.



CPU Mark99 583(i7-5960X 561)



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CINBENCH R15 1537(i7-5960X CPU 1318 ；i7-5960X CPU Single 138 )



P.S: unit cb, the greater the better the number of performance



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3DMARK2013 FIRE STRIKE Physics score 17916 (i7-5960X 3DMARK2013 FIRE STRIKE Physics score 16126)



P.S: The bigger the number, the better the performance



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Also possible early bios for the motherboards wont allow higher speeds yet.
 
Gideon said:
Also possible early bios for the motherboards wont allow higher speeds yet.
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We are taking about less that a month before launch, things like that should be ironed out by now cause reviewers won't have the time to make last minute changes. Now I've heard and was posted here, Ryzen doesn't need as much bandwidth as Intel, but we are looking at 30% less right off the bat and more, that is a huge gap.
 
How about a widespread memory bug that I guess affects all AM4 motherboards?

i dunno. why is Ryzen unable to reach 3000+ like intel's stuff?
 
well memory frequencies and timings are very complicated so yeah could be, I think it was the P4's where CPU clock speed made some timings and frequencies unstable on Rambus.
 
razor1 said:
We are taking about less that a month before launch, things like that should be ironed out by now cause reviewers won't have the time to make last minute changes. Now I've heard and was posted here, Ryzen doesn't need as much bandwidth as Intel, but we are looking at 30% less right off the bat and more, that is a huge gap.
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Not uncommon for a last minute bios release. But is concerning the memory is always running at such low speeds.
 
SighTurtle said:
How about a widespread memory bug that I guess affects all AM4 motherboards?

i dunno. why is Ryzen unable to reach 3000+ like intel's stuff?
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The memory controller is not made by AMD. Its an outsourced standard IP block from Synopsys or possibly Rambus.
 
Well I am just optimistically happy that we aren't getting the "OMG this is slower than expected" rumors that generally preceded the previous AMD releases. :)

Now if only we can get some good sounding motherboards to show up. I have only looked briefly at the offerings that were posted on the main site but I didn't really find any I thought were that great. I think they all only had 6 SATA ports I have 8 in my current machine and that is like the minimum I'd want in a new rig.
 
razor1 said:
That is weird, pretty much know that 3200mhz is the max ram Ryzen can take but still....
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Shintai said:
I only think Asus listed 3200Mhz. Everyone else have listed 2667Mhz as max. MSI, Biostar, Asrock etc. AMD also only demoed at 2400Mhz.
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http://wccftech.com/msi-am4-motherboard-x370-b350-a320-price-amd-ryzen-leak/

MSI X370 XPOWER Gaming Titanium Motherboard ($299 US):

Four DDR4 DIMM slots allow for really fast memory support with capacity of up to 64 GB and speeds running past 4000 MHz (O.C.+). Expansion slots include three PCIe 3.0 x16 slots, three PCIe 3.0 x1 slots and dual Turbo M.2 slots (32 Gb/s). Storage options on the board include 6 SATA III 6 Gb/s ports, a Turbo U.2 port and dual USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 front panel headers.
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Not so much 3200 ...

MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Motherboard ($179 US):
The AM4 socket is surrounded by a 10 phase PWM that is powered by a single 8-pin CPU power connector. There are four DDR4 DIMM slots that are shielded by a metallic plate on this motherboard. We can expect some impressive speeds beyond 3600 MHz (OC+) on the DRAM with OC profiles enabled.
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Totally weird another one with different memory speed.
 
https://www.pcper.com/news/Motherbo...s-X370-XPower-Gaming-Titanium-AM4-Motherboard

Armed with AMD’s highest end X370 chipset, the flagship motherboard supports Ryzen CPUs as well as 7th generation APUs. There are four DDR4 memory slots on the board that MSI claims can operate in dual channel mode at up to 2667 MHz when overclocked. The board is rather powerful as well in that there are a lot of power connections. The usual 24-pin ATX and 8-pin EPS are joined by a 4-pin ATX up top and a 6-pin PCI-E connector on the bottom to stabilize overclocks. Further, a 10-phase VRM drives the AM4 socket and memory.
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The only 3000+ plus board I've heard about is the Asus X370 Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero at 3200.
 
Why do I find it strange that the date in the Firestrike picture shows 2017-02-25. I must be drunk !
 
SighTurtle said:
https://www.pcper.com/news/Motherbo...s-X370-XPower-Gaming-Titanium-AM4-Motherboard



The only 3000+ plus board I've heard about is the Asus X370 Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero at 3200.
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That would be very odd typo , not that I'm saying that the website is trustworthy, but it was an exclusive and it would be odd to get those things wrong :) and because of the specs of the Asus board it would be very weird if another top end board would not support over 3000mhz.
SighTurtle said:
Now, the MSI Z270 XPOWER Gaming Titanium supports 4133 Mhz.

Edit: MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon also has no product specs atm aside from WCCF.
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You saw the numbers from the article none of them mention 4133, so they do differ (not a cut&paste error).
 
razor1 said:
WTF tech is the only website that stated, and others have stated MSI's specs aren't that
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Is that plural? something you might have a link to or is it just that they copied the same article without stating a source ?
 
Pieter3dnow said:
That would be very odd typo , not that I'm saying that the website is trustworthy, but it was an exclusive and it would be odd to get those things wrong :) and because of the specs of the Asus board it would be very weird if another top end board would not support over 3000mhz.

You saw the numbers from the article none of them mention 4133, so they do differ (not a cut&paste error).
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If Wccf told me that Nvidia made the fastest video cards on the market, I would look at another site to confirm.

Now, I am wondering about Asus being seemingly the only one pushing a board beyond the 3000+ mark everyone seems too scared to reach. Either Ryzen beyond 3000+ is iffy, and Asus is betting the higher numbers translate to better sales (screw stability) or entertaining the possibility that Wccf isnt trash, since CES (time PCper's article was published), MSI may have been able to for whatever reason push the memory speed and upon release/announcement will offer updated specs.

Problem is, Biostar's pages for their boards are up, and despite testing up to DDR4 3600, they won't write that on their features list. Only up to 2667 Mhz. Either one, Bios updates will allow it to support higher memory speeds (is that possible?) and therefore, every early adopter is gonna have to do BIOS updates, or two, Wccf is peddling unsourced trash.
 
Shintai said:
The memory controller is not made by AMD. Its an outsourced standard IP block from Synopsys or possibly Rambus.
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So the memory controller is on the CPU chip right? Then it would be a CPU problem and every motherboard is just constrained by these chips right?

Edit: Are there CPU drivers/updates?
 
SighTurtle said:
If Wccf told me that Nvidia made the fastest video cards on the market, I would look at another site to confirm.
Wccf is peddling unsourced trash.
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And that is where I am wondering if you know the difference between listing specs (which any monkey can do even the ones at wccftech) and an informed opinion for buying a product.
And it seems that that Razor1 listed something I did not see before.

But it still is odd that memory speed on the chipset still supports higher frequency.
 
SighTurtle said:
So the memory controller is on the CPU chip right? Then it would be a CPU problem and every motherboard is just constrained by these chips right?

Edit: Are there CPU drivers/updates?
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CPU drivers/updates do little to nothing to improve speed. They just provide low level access to non standard x86 instruction functions.
 
Just because a motherboard supports certain dram speeds doesn't mean the CPU will.

I'm cautiously optimistic about Zen and I'll be damned if I end up disappointed by the hype like all the other people who do at every AMD release :p
 
DigitalGriffin said:
Again, Ryzen appears to be kicking Intels ass, even with slow memory.
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True, if these are correct. ;)

But, if I'm not wrong, there are workloads that matter more to RAM speed, and Intel will still be top dog mostly. But Price-Performance, AMD might well shine.

Ieldra said:
Just because a motherboard supports certain dram speeds doesn't mean the CPU will.

I'm cautiously optimistic about Zen and I'll be damned if I end up disappointed by the hype like all the other people who do at every AMD release :p
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Looks to me that it might be AMD's processors that could be holding it back since its seemingly across the board less capable than Intel's boards. Assuming its some sort of problem with the CPU, how will AMD be able to fix this? Can AMD release I suppose a 1900 with support for higher RAM?
 
Is the memory speed not listed just like intels? z270 as just OC? I know it doesnt show all the way up but I would think it would allow for higher

DDR4 3733+(OC)*/ 3600(OC)/ 3200(OC)/ 2933(OC)/ 2800(OC)/ 2400/ 2133
 
luke51087 said:
Is the memory speed not listed just like intels? z270 as just OC? I know it doesnt show all the way up but I would think it would allow for higher

DDR4 3733+(OC)*/ 3600(OC)/ 3200(OC)/ 2933(OC)/ 2800(OC)/ 2400/ 2133
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Biostar's Intel boards have this same sort of listings. It should work that if its possible on Ryzen boards, they would do the same. But despite the listings, I don't think until we get final release of Ryzen, that things will be fully confirmed for what they are. Biostar might still be finishing their specs/testing/updating of their webpages.
 
Lol. reviews aren't even out yet and we already have memorygate.
 
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Haswell-E and Skylake supports DDR4-2133. Anything above that is overclocking. Same thing with Ryzen's support for DDR4-2400. Ryzen motherboards have XMP (source upper right).
 
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variant said:
Haswell-E and Skylake supports DDR4-2133. Anything above that is overclocking. Same thing with Ryzen's support for DDR4-2400.
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Over clocked motherboards state what they support up to frequencies +oc They always designate what the fastest memory that specific motherboard will support and if its overclock-able or not.

here is MSI Titanium Intel version

https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/Z270-XPOWER-GAMING-TITANIUM.html#productFeature-section

Supports DDR4-4133+(OC) Memory
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