Dayaks
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VEGA = not as fast as Titan X = not as fast as 1080Ti = flop.
It'd only be a flop if AMD and the fans overhype the shit out of it. Whhhiicchh seems to be happening.
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VEGA = not as fast as Titan X = not as fast as 1080Ti = flop.
It'd only be a flop if AMD and the fans overhype the shit out of it. Whhhiicchh seems to be happening.
I see more people hyping its failure than people saying its the next best thing.
Of course that seems to get ignored all the time.
VEGA = not as fast as Titan X = not as fast as 1080Ti = flop.
i wouldn't be so sure.
Check the graph posted at #120. You will see that SLI doesn't scale properly at DOOM (*although this graph shows measurements with OpenGL , not VULCAN)
When you say absolute maximum are you also using Nightmare shadows?So, Okay. I may have been a bit harsh on Vega so far. I just loaded up DEWM and ran the exact level from the demonstration that was showing the game running from 60-75FPS on VEGA. I run at 4K, absolute maximum settings on Skynet, the system in my sig: two OC'd Maxwell TiXs in SLI. I got about the same FPS as the Vega sample (I was about 7% ahead). Raw Screendump from steam below. I'm pretty sure my two 1400Mhz+ maxwell Titan Xs are faster than a single Pascal Titan X.
Yep. Another example as well, higher settings tho:
View attachment 14291
Both 980 and 1080 gets around 30% scaling.
If this is confirmed in the end I'm to have a field day teasing some forum users here about how they feel about AMD sacrificing IPC for higher clocks, just like Paxwell. Ah, I'm such an asshole lol.
When you say absolute maximum are you also using Nightmare shadows?
If so need to lower that to Ultra like the AMD DEMO.
Cheers
You just said nothing about Vega though. If your opinion (good or bad) is based on other products then you're hyping failure based on things that aren't Vega. That's just as biased and it's still hype.That's because personally i believe that AMD tends to over-hype everything
1. from the time when they were implying(never stated directly) that GTX970 had less than 4GB RAM which was later proved to be a lie 2.also, many months before FuryX's release they were "bombing" us with the tremendeous capabilities of the HBM memory, letting us believe that their GPU will be something between a rocket and a spaceship!! untill NV released 980Ti and the spaceship landed , and 3. Their claiming that RX480 will provide us with "Premium VR experience" and so far it's far behind all NV's competitive GPUs ,
so, personally i don't take them seriously anymore untill i see reviews first.
That's because personally i believe that AMD tends to over-hype everything
1. from the time when they were implying(never stated directly) that GTX970 had less than 4GB RAM which was later proved to be a lie 2.also, many months before FuryX's release they were "bombing" us with the tremendeous capabilities of the HBM memory, letting us believe that their GPU will be something between a rocket and a spaceship!! untill NV released 980Ti and the spaceship landed , and 3. Their claiming that RX480 will provide us with "Premium VR experience" and so far it's far behind all NV's competitive GPUs ,
so, personally i don't take them seriously anymore untill i see reviews first.
Interesting indeed. I was getting minimums of 70 FPS on the map, and I was running in OGL. I tried out 'just ' ultra settings, I didn't see any difference in FPS.
that said, according to that graph, my system beats out a 1080 SLI setup, which I find doubtful. The level in the AMD demo (Argent D'Nur) is not the most demanding of Doom's missions, graphically speaking.
You forgot how FuryX is supposed to be an overclocker's dream.
They sure are giving that dork a lot of access
I believe LTT is the biggest tech channel on Youtube right now so it makes senses for AMD top give Linus a lot of access. Considering how incredibly excited he is prone to get over new tech it's also a smart move to do so.
So in regards to the Radeon 570 Vega/Polaris that appeared recently in the laptop, there are a few possibilities here. One is that the die thinning procedure that was used for the chip that went to Apple, which dramatically lowers power draw, is used for some of AMD's future chips.
So in regards to the Radeon 570 Vega/Polaris that appeared recently in the laptop, there are a few possibilities here. One is that the die thinning procedure that was used for the chip that went to Apple, which dramatically lowers power draw, is used for some of AMD's future chips.
Die thinning is a standard method used for ages and it doesn't change the electricals. The rebranded 470 have been used in 1? other laptop. So besides Apple and 2? laptops, Polaris haven't gone anywhere.
I dont even think non thinned dies exist today in any form. Smartphones, USB sticks, Smartcards etc couldn't exist without it. Its been done for over 20 years.
Calm down, i never said they weren't used anywhere else but what does that have to do with the fact that the die thinned Polaris die dramatically lowered power draw? Correct, nothing.
Calm down, i never said they weren't used anywhere else but what does that have to do with the fact that the die thinned Polaris die dramatically lowered power draw? Correct, nothing.
so?! that's what happens when vsync is off on a 60Hz panel...Screen tearing...View attachment 14299
so?! that's what happens when vsync is off on a 60Hz panel...
Die thinning has nothing to do with power or circuitry in a chip so how do you propose it drops power?
Hence the unicorn videos
Apple's Polaris chips are down clocked, and undervalued significantly that's why the TDP is so low and you don't know the power draw of the chip by looking at the TDP, two different things! So you don't even know even though its underclocked how much its boosting.
How much undervalued?
I think die thinned Polaris chips in laptops with dramatically lowered power draw are in the works.
How much undervalued?
I think die thinned Polaris chips in laptops with dramatically lowered power draw are in the works.
possibly but it IS NOT an issue. so idk wtf hes bringing it up for. its nothing new...Must have forgotten to use Freesync...
possibly but it IS NOT an issue. so idk wtf hes bringing it up for. its nothing new...