The campaign will be on for about 30 days. Number of SENTRYs will be limited. We plan to start shipment of the 1st batch after 2-3 months after the end of campaign.
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SENTRY: Console-sized gaming PC case project
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The campaign will be on for about 30 days. Number of SENTRYs will be limited. We plan to start shipment of the 1st batch after 2-3 months after the end of campaign.
Can you please give the announcement of the campaign few days before it starts. I want to be in the first line of buyers, hehe
And will the shipping be worldwide? Otherwise i will go directly to Poland to buy the case from your hands. Happy holidays, guys!That's our plan to release announcement of the date earlier because our newsletter will distribute message over some time (not to get flagged as spamming bot by receiving servers) and there's time zones to be considered as well.
We want to ship worldwide, but there are some remote regions where shipping would be really expensive like for example $100-ish shipping, which is quite a lot.
We want to ship worldwide, but there are some remote regions where shipping would be really expensive like for example $100-ish shipping, which is quite a lot.
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Can you tell us what the limit is on how many Sentrys can be purchased through the campaign IE what is the max you are willing to produce in the first batch and how many orders do you need to go ahead and produce them EG 1000 max and need at least 200 to make?
The plan is 1000/100. We want to produce up to 1000 pcs in a first batch but the campaign will be successfull even when we gather only 100 orders.
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I'd like to know when this product starts selling.
Also, I wonder how much the product is formed, and can you ship it to Korea?
I've been waiting for this product to be released a few months ago.
From S.korea
Also, I wonder how much the product is formed, and can you ship it to Korea?
I've been waiting for this product to be released a few months ago.
From S.korea
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My 2 cents: offer shipping worldwide. If a destination costs $100 to ship, just make sure to let customers know in advance.
In the end, a case isn't simply a "box in which you put components". If somebody is in love with the design (and there are lots of features to love in your design) they will pay whatever it takes to get it. Yes, that includes $100 shipping costs. And more.
As a New Zealander I'm sure I fall into that category. I often find the only thing worse than shipping being expensive, is no option for shipping at all
As a New Zealander I'm sure I fall into that category. I often find the only thing worse than shipping being expensive, is no option for shipping at all
With New Zealand we shouldn't have such problems, shipping price looks quite normal, close to what we've got for USA and Australia.
In terms of shipping zones there are some more exotic places for us than New Zealand
For something like 80% of countries we have shippment below $30 for one SENTRY, but in our offers from 4 different transport companies we have prices for some exotic countries like $80 per single package. Both USA and New Zeland are atm below $30.
With graphics card fitment on the GPU Compatibility Sheet the Sapphire Nitro+ RX 480 4G D5 OC is incompatible and the XFX RX 480 RS 4GB with Hard Swap is compatible.
The dimensions are:
Sapphire 240x120x42 with rear power connector
XFX 240x121x40 with side power connector
Does this mean the maximum thickness we can use is 41mm?
The dimensions are:
Sapphire 240x120x42 with rear power connector
XFX 240x121x40 with side power connector
Does this mean the maximum thickness we can use is 41mm?
ohchanghyeon
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I wonder where this product is going to be sold.
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No it's not. Unless the card is really something like 2.5 slot thick it shouldn't really matter.
I'm not sure if we're using same spec - I have 125mm, not 120 for Sapphire unit here:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/productdetial.asp?pid=A471FEC5-AAA9-482B-81C3-4A7E059A3574&lang=eng
XFX unit is clearly a reference sized card with its plastic shroud slightly standing out and that is within the 18mm limit.
Sapphire unit is oversized with its PCB and shroud. I thought it couldn't fit, because of the PEG connector, but I checked now and I think I made a mistake here because those cards have their PEG connectors facing end of the card.
That's good news. I'll check up numbers on those cards tomorrow, but it looks like whole sapphire lineup might be okay thanks to that connector config. If you notice guys anything else that is unclear - ask.
ohchanghyeon we're going to launch campaign on indiegogo soon. South Korea is within standard shipping cost so you'll be okay
No it's not. Unless the card is really something like 2.5 slot thick it shouldn't really matter.
I'm not sure if we're using same spec - I have 125mm, not 120 for Sapphire unit here:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/productdetial.asp?pid=A471FEC5-AAA9-482B-81C3-4A7E059A3574&lang=eng
XFX unit is clearly a reference sized card with its plastic shroud slightly standing out and that is within the 18mm limit.
Sapphire unit is oversized with its PCB and shroud. I thought it couldn't fit, because of the PEG connector, but I checked now and I think I made a mistake here because those cards have their PEG connectors facing end of the card.
That's good news. I'll check up numbers on those cards tomorrow, but it looks like whole sapphire lineup might be okay thanks to that connector config. If you notice guys anything else that is unclear - ask.
ohchanghyeon we're going to launch campaign on indiegogo soon. South Korea is within standard shipping cost so you'll be okay
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AFAIK GPUs have standard widths. Single Slot, Dual Slot, 2.5/3 Slot. There are only a few of the latter and it is reserved for massive 3 fan top of the line cards like Galax HOF and Zotac Amp Extreme. To check for that find a picture of the IO and you'll see if the GPU is very oversized. I don't think there are any 2.5/3 Slot 480s but I could be wrong.
Also Saper, I saw the discussion of the CPU fan on the previous page, do you have a clearer view now. The main 3 options I see is a low profile CPU similar to L9i with around 10mm clearance for fan to breathe, 47/48mm ones like the L9i with a 25mm fan or the C7/AR06 and finally the strange ones like the Scuthe one with the fan below the heatsink
The ambiguity of this exchange is bothering me, so I'm just going to say this is why I shy away from using "width" as a descriptor for video card dimensions.
Here's my official unofficial list of video card dimensions:
- Height: the distance from the bottom of the card edge PCIe connector to the top of the PCB or cooler (whichever is taller); reference cards are 111mm tall, non-reference can be 150mm+. The middle dimension (in size) of the three.
- Thickness: number of slots the card takes up; around 40mm for 2-slot cards. Always the smallest dimension.
- Length: self explanatory. Ranges from 150mm to 312mm+. Always the largest dimension.
Also, thickness isn't standardized, per se, except that cards are usually classified as 1-, 2-, or 3-slots based on how many slots they occupy - including only partially. So one "3 slot" card might be 60mm thick while another might only be 55mm. And yeah, sometimes manufacturers will say 2.2 or 2.5 slots to be more accurate.
I didn't try all of them so I can't say for sure, but I think that L9i might be good choice if its fan is really that good (quiet), because thanks to being low profile, it won't be touching vents directly like C7.
Apart from that note, you'll have to see for yourselves
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The problem is manufactures often look at the card lying on its side and list its thickness i.e. Number of slots as height and the distance from PCIe Slot to the top of the cooler as width, I think manufactures of various stuff like GPUs and Cases should stop listing dimensions as Height Width and Length and only give us the 3 dimensions which would be fairly easy to figure out from the picture unless it is square or do what the Sentry does on its website showing a drawing and precisely where all the dimensions are measured from.
At least the slots are a good universal measurement for width unless your case has space for something just slightly over 2 slots but not the full 3 slots
I didn't try all of them so I can't say for sure, but I think that L9i might be good choice if its fan is really that good (quiet), because thanks to being low profile, it won't be touching vents directly like C7.
Apart from that note, you'll have to see for yourselves
With the L9i Noctua sells the exactly same fan as on it but 25mm so I would assume it would at least be quieter if not cooler
I have reviewed the SAPPHIRE NITRO and NITRO+ series once again.
I know now where my mistake came from. NITRO series have such photo on their websites:
While all the reviews say that the card looks like this:
which is the same as NITRO+ cards.
Anyway, if the PEG is facing up and is recessed then it should behave like normal reference card in terms of fitting PEG connector and its wires.
I signed those units differently though because I'm not entirely sure about them if there's such specification error.
I know now where my mistake came from. NITRO series have such photo on their websites:
While all the reviews say that the card looks like this:
which is the same as NITRO+ cards.
Anyway, if the PEG is facing up and is recessed then it should behave like normal reference card in terms of fitting PEG connector and its wires.
I signed those units differently though because I'm not entirely sure about them if there's such specification error.
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The L9i outperforms this compact AIO from Cooler Master while being smaller, quieter and cheaper.
That is such a stupid product it is not worth a mention. Defeats the purpose of an AIO.
Well boys, I figured out my solution.
Going back to the blower-vs-open-air discussion (and the size discussion, really), I realized something.
1) I want a blower style cooler. I have an old evga blower style gtx670 that's remarkably quiet, and given that cooling tech has had a few generations of, if you listen to nvidia, focused improvement... I'll take the design that'll keep the rest of the system cooler.
2) The 1070 FE is kind of a rip off, since you're paying the same premium for the nice cooler, but NOT getting the fancy vapor chamber cooler the 1080 has, even though it's only a 30W TDP difference.
3) Once GPU Boost 3.0 comes into play, reference cards and non-reference cards perform remarkably similarly to each other. The bottleneck clearly seems to be the cooling of the chip, not voltage administration.
As of yesterday, I bought a brand-new, verified working GTX 1080 cooler... For $40 on eBay.
My plan is to get the cheapest reference-PCB 1070 I can find, slap some MX-4 and thermal pads on it, and give it a cooler that most tech websites said was overkill for the 1080.
All for $50 less than a 1070 FE would cost.
Help me troubleshoot this idea; what are the possible downsides?
If the user is willing to break warranty and is comfortable messing around with their GPU like that, it seems kind of like an ideal solution for this particular case.
Going back to the blower-vs-open-air discussion (and the size discussion, really), I realized something.
1) I want a blower style cooler. I have an old evga blower style gtx670 that's remarkably quiet, and given that cooling tech has had a few generations of, if you listen to nvidia, focused improvement... I'll take the design that'll keep the rest of the system cooler.
2) The 1070 FE is kind of a rip off, since you're paying the same premium for the nice cooler, but NOT getting the fancy vapor chamber cooler the 1080 has, even though it's only a 30W TDP difference.
3) Once GPU Boost 3.0 comes into play, reference cards and non-reference cards perform remarkably similarly to each other. The bottleneck clearly seems to be the cooling of the chip, not voltage administration.
As of yesterday, I bought a brand-new, verified working GTX 1080 cooler... For $40 on eBay.
My plan is to get the cheapest reference-PCB 1070 I can find, slap some MX-4 and thermal pads on it, and give it a cooler that most tech websites said was overkill for the 1080.
All for $50 less than a 1070 FE would cost.
Help me troubleshoot this idea; what are the possible downsides?
If the user is willing to break warranty and is comfortable messing around with their GPU like that, it seems kind of like an ideal solution for this particular case.
HUGEST downside is that you can't see your magnificently looking beautiful cooler. Damn, nvidia has best designers for gpu cooling ever. Honestly, your plan is as good as hell.
This is my exact plan for a build for a friend. I have the 1080fe and the cooler is great. The pc I built for a friend has the 1070fe and the cooler is shit. I plan to swap his for a 1080 cooler soon . I have a feeling it will make for a monster of a 1070.
What cooler did you go for?
Wow would this fit?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/322364477825
I have a reference Asus GTX 1070 Turbo
Loving the idea of this!
Update on vapor chamber cooler mod for my mobo, after multiple test fits I decided to go for replacing the capacitors. (All or nothing) Old caps came out fine and putting the new ones in tomorrow, New Year activities take precidence.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/322364477825
I have a reference Asus GTX 1070 Turbo
Loving the idea of this!
Update on vapor chamber cooler mod for my mobo, after multiple test fits I decided to go for replacing the capacitors. (All or nothing) Old caps came out fine and putting the new ones in tomorrow, New Year activities take precidence.
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Holy cow, those were some fast replies - I'm glad that it doesn't just seem like a good idea to me and leave you guys going, "damn, that fool on [H] who isn't satisfied until he messes with every single part in his computer..."
Fero: No, the Sentry doesn't have a window or anything like that, but here's my plan... go check out the photos of the build in the white case. You can kind of see what's going on inside the thing. I'm going to get a white Sentry, give it silver screws (I'm hoping to find a good looking hex head screw), and either a light blue or nvidia green power button ring. When on, the silver of the cooler will flash through the holes in the case, and the gtx logo will backlight the thing in green. Hopefully should be decent looking enough despite not being made entirely out of tempered glass.
Ej24, I've tried to research this and have found literally nobody who has done it. (Though it's hard to find anything but the EVGA "scandal".) I guess you and I will be the guinea pigs, eh? I'm honestly feeling really enthusiastic about it.
The swap should be really easy if you've ever put a waterblock on a graphics card before. The only thing that I can't find is what height thermal pads I need. I'm guessing 1mm and .5mm, but does anyone happen to have the information on hand?
OmenemO, I bought a reference gtx 1080 cooler, presumably that someone had taken off of their founder's edition in order to watercool it.
Fero: No, the Sentry doesn't have a window or anything like that, but here's my plan... go check out the photos of the build in the white case. You can kind of see what's going on inside the thing. I'm going to get a white Sentry, give it silver screws (I'm hoping to find a good looking hex head screw), and either a light blue or nvidia green power button ring. When on, the silver of the cooler will flash through the holes in the case, and the gtx logo will backlight the thing in green. Hopefully should be decent looking enough despite not being made entirely out of tempered glass.
Ej24, I've tried to research this and have found literally nobody who has done it. (Though it's hard to find anything but the EVGA "scandal".) I guess you and I will be the guinea pigs, eh? I'm honestly feeling really enthusiastic about it.
The swap should be really easy if you've ever put a waterblock on a graphics card before. The only thing that I can't find is what height thermal pads I need. I'm guessing 1mm and .5mm, but does anyone happen to have the information on hand?
OmenemO, I bought a reference gtx 1080 cooler, presumably that someone had taken off of their founder's edition in order to watercool it.
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...there's a thought. If it did, the Titan X is a 250W TDP card - that cooler would be insane on it. I went with the 1080 cooler just because I know that the reference coolers for both are exactly the same except for the logo and the actual vapor chamber/heatsink bit.
HOWEVER. From examining the PCB of the 1070 and the Titan X... they appear to be nearly identical. The only difference is in the die size and (this is where I'd be concerned) the height of the chip.
I found a thread on Tom's Hardware where someone successfully put an original titan cooler on a GTX 770. Another thread, on arstechnica, discussed putting a Titan XP cooler on a 1080 but didn't actually go through with it; though they noted that the XP cooler has more fins and a higher copper content.
Waaaaait. that thread ends in a comment by a one 'ej24', saying that the Titan's cooler and the 1080's cooler are identical except for looks. (And then ponders about the gains of a 1080 cooler on a 1070.
)EJ, have you actually investigated this? What did you end up with?
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...there's a thought. If it did, the Titan X is a 250W TDP card - that cooler would be insane on it. I went with the 1080 cooler just because I know that the reference coolers for both are exactly the same except for the logo and the actual vapor chamber/heatsink bit.
HOWEVER. From examining the PCB of the 1070 and the Titan X... they appear to be nearly identical. The only difference is in the die size and (this is where I'd be concerned) the height of the chip.
I found a thread on Tom's Hardware where someone successfully put an original titan cooler on a GTX 770. Another thread, on arstechnica, discussed putting a Titan XP cooler on a 1080 but didn't actually go through with it; though they noted that the XP cooler has more fins and a higher copper content.
Waaaaait. that thread ends in a comment by a one 'ej24', saying that the Titan's cooler and the 1080's cooler are identical except for looks. (And then ponders about the gains of a 1080 cooler on a 1070.
EJ, have you actually investigated this? What did you end up with?
Yeah, that was me on Arstechnica.com, I posted the same thread in multiple places and the concensus I reached was that the only difference between the Titan cooler and 1080 cooler is the fan curve (which is due to the different bios) and the lack of paint on the Titan cooling fins which may increase performance (probably not though). I found higher resolution images of both coolers and they both appear to have 40 fins if I recall. So there doesn't appear to be a benefit to putting a Titan cooler on a 1080. But a Titan/1080 cooler on a 1070 should be a nice improvement over the terrible 1070 cooler.
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Cool, thanks for the confirmation.
I'm definitely looking forward to it; it should keep the Sentry nice and cool and quiet. (Plus it tickles me pink that it ends up being cheaper than the worse option.)
Cool, thanks for the confirmation.
I'm definitely looking forward to it; it should keep the Sentry nice and cool and quiet. (Plus it tickles me pink that it ends up being cheaper than the worse option.)
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That's a pretty decent update. now if you'll excuse me; i have to run around my apartment screaming from excitement for the next half an hour or so.
Can't wait! Now I actually have to decide, 2 black? Or one black and one white?
Also, I thought I'd share this super cool Rgb vandal switch I found. I purchased 2 of the 16mm today in anticipation for sentry.
https://www.tindie.com/products/Fusion/12mm-and-16mm-antivandal-rgb-colorpixel-buttons/
Also, I thought I'd share this super cool Rgb vandal switch I found. I purchased 2 of the 16mm today in anticipation for sentry.
https://www.tindie.com/products/Fusion/12mm-and-16mm-antivandal-rgb-colorpixel-buttons/
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