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I just got a 4K monitor and was wanting to know if there are any internal DVD drives that I can play 4K discs on?
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The 4K Blu Rays aren't physically different from regular Blu Rays from everything I've read. With an update to whatever software you're using for Blu Ray playback you'll be able to watch 4K Blu Rays as long as you have a newer model player.
That's why I said as long as you have a newer player/drive. You'd need a Blu Ray player that supports the high/extended capacity Blu Rays because of the size of 4K video. I'm pretty sure I heard cyberlinks powerdvd is getting an update or already has support for 4K Blu Rays.According to this thread at AVS, it's NOT guaranteed compatible with older drives. And also, there's still no way to play the 4k movies, and thus we have no idea if they will be capable of decryption.
4K Optical Drives: Will Existing BDXL Options Work? - Page 4 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
As usual, PC Blu-Ray is getting left high-and-dry.
Btw how do you like PowerDVD 16? I was thinking about going for it once I pick up a Blu Ray drive for my PC.
The 4K Blu Rays aren't physically different from regular Blu Rays from everything I've read. With an update to whatever software you're using for Blu Ray playback you'll be able to watch 4K Blu Rays as long as you have a newer model player.
Because the OP asked if any drives played 4K Blu Rays and I was explaining its not a matter of hardware, what's required is updated software for most newer Blu Ray drive to work. Did you read the thread?Why did you post this?
Did you read the thread?
I just got a 4K monitor and was wanting to know if there are any internal DVD drives that I can play 4K discs on?
There is no such thing as a 4K dvd. Unless you're storing short 4K videos on a writable disc in which case the answer is any DVD drive would work.Did you
Because the OP asked if any drives played 4K Blu Rays and I was explaining its not a matter of hardware, what's required is updated software for most newer Blu Ray drive to work. Did you read the thread?
Some of them will read the discs. Of course there's no software to play them back so it's not of a whole lot of use.Blu Ray drives will not read UHD discs. You comments aren't even partly correct. Don't waste time posting incorrect info.
Some of them will read the discs. Of course there's no software to play them back so it's not of a whole lot of use.
You're wrong. There are drives that can read the discs now. People who have those drives won't need new ones.They won't read them either right now, even if the appropriate software was released, you will need a new drive as well.
No, you can read the folder structure, you can't read the disc.You're wrong. There are drives that can read the discs now. People who have those drives won't need new ones.
I'm interested in being able to decode/view 4k UHD discs on the PC also - I just searched AVS Forum to follow that thread but couldn't find the one where users talking about seeing disc structure - do you have a link in your history?
EDIT - NM found it by simplifying my search... does look like people's PC BD drives are able to see the structure/tagging, hopefully MakeMKV or the like can do something about that
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Of course it can't read the encryption because the softwares not in place. Windows can't play a standard Blu Ray natively, it needs a program to do it so why do you think 4K Blu Rays would be any different? When Cyberlink updates their powerdvd 16 software with 4K Blu Ray support old drives should have no problem playing 4K Blu Rays since they can physically read them. Like you said it's wise to wait but I don't see why you have this doom and gloom attitude about compatibility when all the evidence clearly points to the contrary.The guy from Redfox replied, you won't like his answer. Very difficult to crack, could take a substantial amount of time.
These drives also will need to support the new encryption scheme, they have posted about it over here a few times. You can read the folders, great, it's completely meaningless. Don't go buy a drive now, it probably won't work.
You can copy the files on the disc to your HD. You can't decrypt the files on the disc, but the files on the disc can be read. That meets my definition of read. You apparently have a different definition of read. To me a drive that can't read a UHD disc doesn't even recognize a disc in the drive.No, you can read the folder structure, you can't read the disc.
You can copy the files on the disc to your HD. You can't decrypt the files on the disc, but the files on the disc can be read. That meets my definition of read. You apparently have a different definition of read. To me a drive that can't read a UHD disc doesn't even recognize a disc in the drive.
You can play a plate in a record player, but it doesn't make music.
You can play a plate in a record player, but it doesn't make music.
you are going to need a new drive that supports the encryption standard introduced with 4K. Those drives will not be available until the format has gained some traction....
That is a terrible, terrible comparison.
Viewing file/folder structure = readable disc
You can't decode the data, but you can read the disc.
These are pretty terrible arguments. Stereodude is completely right. If I put a normal BD in my computer drive, I can read the file system, copy the files/make an iso, but can't do shit with it in regards to playback because it's encrypted with AACS. According to some of the logic on here, I apparently need new hardware in this case? Um no, I need software to decrypt it (Cyberlink PowerDVD, MakeMKV etc.).
UHD BD uses AACS v2.0. There is currently no PC software that can decrypt this. There are some players that can read and copy files from UHD discs as Stereodude pointed out. Once the software is available that can decrypt/crack AACSv2, drives like the WH16NS40 should work fine with UHD. What is this other magical encryption standard I'm missing in this discussion? Sure many legacy BD drives cannot read UHD discs and never will, but that's because they're incapable of reading dual/triple/BDXL media. I'm not sure why this is even an argument right now.
You can play a plate in a record player, but it doesn't make music.
These are pretty terrible arguments. Stereodude is completely right. If I put a normal BD in my computer drive, I can read the file system, copy the files/make an iso, but can't do shit with it in regards to playback because it's encrypted with AACS. According to some of the logic on here, I apparently need new hardware in this case? Um no, I need software to decrypt it (Cyberlink PowerDVD, MakeMKV etc.).
UHD BD uses AACS v2.0. There is currently no PC software that can decrypt this. There are some players that can read and copy files from UHD discs as Stereodude pointed out. Once the software is available that can decrypt/crack AACSv2, drives like the WH16NS40 should work fine with UHD. What is this other magical encryption standard I'm missing in this discussion? Sure many legacy BD drives cannot read UHD discs and never will, but that's because they're incapable of reading dual/triple/BDXL media. I'm not sure why this is even an argument right now.
Should? You don't know,nobody does, it's closed spec. Keep buying drives though, they'll definitely work.
Yes, should. If you want to speculate with the glass half empty, I can with it half full. At the end of the day, it's a $60 drive that still has benefits outside of UHD.
I didn't buy a drive because there is no need for me to right now, but if I was in the market for a new BD drive, I would definitely try it out. If you can read the disc and make an ISO from it, it can be decrypted/cracked once AACSv2 is (my opinion at this point, not fact). Standard AACSv2 works similar to it's predecessor from what I have seen on the net.
The main wild card is AAVCv2 *enchanced* which could require a special, not-yet-released drive. But to my knowledge, as of now, none of the released UHD discs are AACSv2 enhanced.