Twitter Shut Down 235,000 Accounts For Promoting Terrorism

Meanwhile back in the oval office our terrorist president has released top security risk terrorist from gitmo back out into the wild.

It's all smoke and mirrors folks, confusion and unrest generate billions of dollars for our rulers. They keep the masses disoriented from the real issues at hand while they sell the family farm.
An uneducated populace will make uneducated decisions.
 
KazeoHin said:
Nobody ever felt the need to say "All Lives Matter" until someone decided to remind people that black lives matter.
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Try saying white lives matter, and you'll be labelled a racist instantly. I know, black people can't be racist, and even if they are it's the white people's fault cuz oppression.
 
Deathroned said:
it is deserved though they keep voting for the party of slave owners, you know the party whose founder was a slave owner, and the party that gave birth to the KKK, the difference is the party owns them this time with welfare.
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The whole country is founded by slave owners. So by that logic the entire country should be dismantled.
 
heatlesssun said:
All lives weren't forced to sit in the back of the bus or not allowed to eat a hot dog at a lunch counter.
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It is the past. Why do you need black lives matter now? Noone is denying what happened in the past, but it stopped happening decades ago. There is nothing more to be done about it now. Or are you suggesting that now we should put black people in the front and whites to the back to get even somehow?
 
M76 said:
It is the past. Why do you need black lives matter now? Noone is denying what happened in the past, but it stopped happening decades ago. There is nothing more to be done about it now. Or are you suggesting that now we should put black people in the front and whites to the back to get even somehow?
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Because for the most part, anything you can point to as repression has been eliminated or made illegal or opens you up to a lawsuit. Therefore since the outcome (economic) has not equalized it must be some invisible force or legacy effect (an intangible boogeyman). It can't be the failure of an entitlement system that promotes more of the same via creating no incentive to leave those entitlements and rewards single parent situations among other policies that remove likely success at self-development.
 
jpm100 said:
Because for the most part, anything you can point to as repression has been eliminated or made illegal or opens you up to a lawsuit. Therefore since the outcome (economic) has not equalized it must be some invisible force or legacy effect (an intangible boogeyman). It can't be the failure of an entitlement system that promotes more of the same via creating no incentive to leave those entitlements and rewards single parent situations among other policies that remove likely success at self-development.
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This pretty much explains it.
 
M76 said:
It is the past. Why do you need black lives matter now? Noone is denying what happened in the past, but it stopped happening decades ago. There is nothing more to be done about it now. Or are you suggesting that now we should put black people in the front and whites to the back to get even somehow?
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You say these things are in the past yet just four weeks ago the 4th Circuit came down with an 83 page decision blasting NC's "voter ID" as purposely discriminatory with some very damning evidence. And the recent release of the DOJ's investigation into Baltimore PD's racial profiling. I don't support all that BLM is taking about but there's still plenty of things going on that are straight out the Jim Crow Era and they're simply not in the past when this stuff is still going on.
 
heatlesssun said:
You say these things are in the past yet just four weeks ago the 4th Circuit came down with an 83 page decision blasting NC's "voter ID" as purposely discriminatory with some very damning evidence. And the recent release of the DOJ's investigation into Baltimore PD's racial profiling. I don't support all that BLM is taking about but there's still plenty of things going on that are straight out the Jim Crow Era and they're simply not in the past when this stuff is still going on.
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Europe has voter ID. Even they think we're stupid to not have it. Stop buying into the propaganda and activist judges.
 
Let me clarify my earlier statement:

What is so racist or discriminatory about voter ID to ensure 1 person, 1 vote, for all legal citizens? There is not a single sensible argument that can be made against this on the grounds of discrimination, unless people are blocking LEGAL US CITIZENS from GETTING an ID.

It's literally an anti-cheating mechanism. There is no salient point to be made against it on discriminatory grounds.

The very political bodies who argue against this are the same ones the DNC leaks exposed as only using the poor to get their vote, while keeping them where they are - dependant on a welfare state.

If they can't cheat at the polls anymore, then there's a chance of them losing the political influence they have. It's NEVER been about equal rights, EVER. If you believe that it is, I got a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you...
 
heatlesssun said:
You say these things are in the past yet just four weeks ago the 4th Circuit came down with an 83 page decision blasting NC's "voter ID" as purposely discriminatory with some very damning evidence. And the recent release of the DOJ's investigation into Baltimore PD's racial profiling. I don't support all that BLM is taking about but there's still plenty of things going on that are straight out the Jim Crow Era and they're simply not in the past when this stuff is still going on.
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Voter ID can be seen as discrimination. But not specifically against black people, but poor, uneducated people in general. BLM says white people get something just because they're white. But I've never seen any proof of that. It's the opposite that I can find examples of, like needing less points to enter college.

And to them black lives don't really matter. Only black criminals killed by cops that seem to be their concern. They completely ignore the far greater source of black deaths, which is black on black violence.
 
M76 said:
Voter ID can be seen as discrimination. But not specifically against black people, but poor, uneducated people in general. BLM says white people get something just because they're white. But I've never seen any proof of that. It's the opposite that I can find examples of, like needing less points to enter college.

And to them black lives don't really matter. Only black criminals killed by cops that seem to be their concern. They completely ignore the far greater source of black deaths, which is black on black violence.
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I'd like to hear the argument of how voter ID is discriminatory against the poor. Everyone should be given one. One person, one vote.
 
jpm100 said:
Because for the most part, anything you can point to as repression has been eliminated or made illegal or opens you up to a lawsuit. Therefore since the outcome (economic) has not equalized it must be some invisible force or legacy effect (an intangible boogeyman). It can't be the failure of an entitlement system that promotes more of the same via creating no incentive to leave those entitlements and rewards single parent situations among other policies that remove likely success at self-development.
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I know, it's systemic racism. That can't be observed, can't be explained, and can't be understood. It eerily seems like it doesn't even exist.

Zion Halcyon said:
George Soros is already working on that
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He's working on Europe too. It's reassuring to know that he stands to win regardless how badly we fall.
 
Zion Halcyon said:
I'd like to hear the argument of how voter ID is discriminatory against the poor. Everyone should be given one. One person, one vote.
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I'm not saying that requiring voter id is a bad thing. Just that it can be an obstacle for the impoverished.

I'm not that familiar with the US voting system. But in general you need some reading and writing skills to navigate the bureaucracy, and you might even required to have a mailing address, to be able to apply for an ID. At least here it is a requirement. You don't have an address you don't vote. And if you don't have an ID you can't vote either.
 
M76 said:
I'm not saying that requiring voter id is a bad thing. Just that it can be an obstacle for the impoverished.

I'm not that familiar with the US voting system. But in general you need some reading and writing skills to navigate the bureaucracy, and you might even required to have a mailing address, to be able to apply for an ID. At least here it is a requirement. You don't have an address you don't vote. And if you don't have an ID you can't vote either.
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I see. So really it is more homeless-discriminatory. Frankly, I'd say its a necessary evil, since the majority of those who are chronically homeless tend to either be mentally ill or have a substance abuse problem (and I don't say that glibly - I've volunteered time at shelters and broken bread with plenty of homeless people in said shelters and heard their stories - PADS was the name of the shelter group I worked with, specifically).

Frankly, necessary evil at that point. In terms of people needing to read or write - we all get a Social Security number when we are born anyway, so attaching that ID to that number can make the process minimally invasive since the hospitals where children are born can be setting this up.
 
M76 said:
I know, it's systemic racism. That can't be observed, can't be explained, and can't be understood. It eerily seems like it doesn't even exist.


He's working on Europe too. It's reassuring to know that he stands to win regardless how badly we fall.
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Frankly, part of me hopes that someday soon, given Brexit, and provided Hillary doesn't get in, that Soros is dragged out into the light in terms of what he's trying to do, that his deeds are spoken openly and honestly from nations to their peoples, and at the very least, someone in Britain and the US will have the balls each to declare Soros an Enemy of the State and slap the Terrorist label on him, and treat him as such.

The day my country openly labels Soros a terrorist and goes after him is the day I do backflips. Also worried its also the day pigs fly...
 
Zion Halcyon said:
Europe has voter ID. Even they think we're stupid to not have it. Stop buying into the propaganda and activist judges.
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There's a long history to these laws, that's the part that some like to skip over. They were never written in a way that said directly "black people can't vote". They were written in a way such that voting procedures would by design target black and other voters. That's why there is the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and if you write a law using voting data broken down by race and use that data to specifically make it harder for certain groups to vote, LEAGAL VOTERS, that's against the law. That's what was in the 4th Circuit's ruling. The court had evidence that the NC was specially crafted using race data. That's the problem. It's got nothing to do with activist judges. Unless you think that violating the VRA of 1965 is ok.
 
heatlesssun said:
There's a long history to these laws, that's the part that some like to skip over. They were never written in a way that said directly "black people can't vote". They were written in a way such that voting procedures would by design target black and other voters. That's why there is the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and if you write a law using voting data broken down by race and use that data to specifically make it harder for certain groups to vote, LEAGAL VOTERS, that's against the law. That's what was in the 4th Circuit's ruling. The court had evidence that the NC was specially crafted using race data. That's the problem. It's got nothing to do with activist judges. Unless you think that violating the VRA of 1965 is ok.
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I don't know what BS everyone else always wants to tack onto these laws, but all I am interested in is requiring an ID to vote. Nothing about when you are allowed to vote and whatnot. Just "ID required to vote".
 
-Strelok- said:
I don't know what BS everyone else always wants to tack onto these laws, but all I am interested in is requiring an ID to vote. Nothing about when you are allowed to vote and whatnot. Just "ID required to vote".
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I like how voter ID is the current boogeyman and not abortion yet again. At least it's a little different.
 
jpm100 said:
Because for the most part, anything you can point to as repression has been eliminated or made illegal or opens you up to a lawsuit. Therefore since the outcome (economic) has not equalized it must be some invisible force or legacy effect (an intangible boogeyman). It can't be the failure of an entitlement system that promotes more of the same via creating no incentive to leave those entitlements and rewards single parent situations among other policies that remove likely success at self-development.
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Like we don't have more black people being arrested and charged for the very same crimes they often let white people off with a warning. That's assuming they don't just shoot the black man. And then we blame the single black mother after we tear their families apart. Systemic racism is still a very real thing for people of color.
 
-Strelok- said:
I don't know what BS everyone else always wants to tack onto these laws, but all I am interested in is requiring an ID to vote. Nothing about when you are allowed to vote and whatnot. Just "ID required to vote".
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I don't have problem with ID for voting in theory. But considering the long history of some people having a hair up their ass about it and with no evidence to support that in person voter fraud is beyond a statistical anomaly, the point of this laws can't be to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Infinitely more ID crimes occur in cases that REQUIRE ID anyway.
 
cyclone3d said:
Show me a Muslim that is speaking out against Islamic terrorism.

I certainly haven't heard of any.
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A co worker friend of mine has.. I think. But he think it's a false flag op, designed to frame muslims. And to be fair, it could be, I think it unlikely though.
 
heatlesssun said:
There's a long history to these laws, that's the part that some like to skip over. They were never written in a way that said directly "black people can't vote". They were written in a way such that voting procedures would by design target black and other voters. That's why there is the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and if you write a law using voting data broken down by race and use that data to specifically make it harder for certain groups to vote, LEAGAL VOTERS, that's against the law. That's what was in the 4th Circuit's ruling. The court had evidence that the NC was specially crafted using race data. That's the problem. It's got nothing to do with activist judges. Unless you think that violating the VRA of 1965 is ok.
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You don't know that. There are activist judges who are actually brought into power to keep the status quo for the DNC, and will patently vote down anything that threatens that. So yeah, frankly, I don't just take what happens in the courts at face value and believe whatever the media tells me about it. Not saying I don't believe it either, and if everything you are telling me is on the level (not saying you're lying but frankly possibly misled by MSM or whomever initially reported it), then absolutely there should be no discrimination.

But when the past is treated like some inescapable boogeyman and inhibits future fair treatment and progress and rational thought, that I cannot get behind. And it would be very VERY naïve to think there aren't judges in league with politicians who want to keep the status quo and keep the poor poor - and its the same people who stand to gain by keeping them down and distracted by blaming another party while taking all their votes to the bank...
 
Zion Halcyon said:
You don't know that. There are activist judges who are actually brought into power to keep the status quo for the DNC, and will patently vote down anything that threatens that. So yeah, frankly, I don't just take what happens in the courts at face value and believe whatever the media tells me about it. Not saying I don't believe it either, and if everything you are telling me is on the level (not saying you're lying but frankly possibly misled by MSM or whomever initially reported it), then absolutely there should be no discrimination.

But when the past is treated like some inescapable boogeyman and inhibits future fair treatment and progress and rational thought, that I cannot get behind. And it would be very VERY naïve to think there aren't judges in league with politicians who want to keep the status quo and keep the poor poor - and its the same people who stand to gain by keeping them down and distracted by blaming another party while taking all their votes to the bank...
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But you're ignoring the long history of this subject that dates back to Reconstruction. Many in this forum base their distrust of government on the notion that government keeps doing the same bad things again and again. These voter laws are no different. Same shit for decades, just a different day.
 
DocSavage said:
Like we don't have more black people being arrested and charged for the very same crimes they often let white people off with a warning. That's assuming they don't just shoot the black man. And then we blame the single black mother after we tear their families apart. Systemic racism is still a very real thing for people of color.
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Yeah and ignore the fact that violent crimes are commited by black people in a vastly greater proportion than white people. 13% of the US is black, and they commit around 50% of murders. Yet there are more white people shot by the police than black people. So if there is a bias it's against white people.

And I'm not saying they commit crime because they're black. They commit more crime, especially robberies because the majority of them is poor.

Yeah the father commits murder, or robbery, so he's arrested, or killed while fleeing the police, and we're the bad guys for breaking apart his family? Do you even realize how ridiculous that sounds?
 
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M76 said:
Yeah and ignore the fact that violent crimes are commited by black people in a vastly greater proportion than white people. 13% of the US is black, and they commit around 50% of murders. Yet there are more white people shot by the police than black people. So if there is a bias it's against white people.

And I'm not saying they commit crime because they're black. They commit more crime, especially robberies because the majority of them is poor.

Yeah the father commits murder, so he's arrested, or killed while fleeing the police, and we're the bad guys for breaking apart his family? Do you even realize how ridiculous that sounds?
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But that doesn't explain differences in sentencing for the same crimes or even routine policing. And right now, if you're a black guy, doesn't matter socioeconomic standing, you probably have an inherent distrust of police. That's actually long been the case in a lot of places. I've talked a lot of black men, including some big wigs with some bucks, about this over the years, there's just no trust there.
 
heatlesssun said:
But that doesn't explain differences in sentencing for the same crimes or even routine policing. And right now, if you're a black guy, doesn't matter socioeconomic standing, you probably have an inherent distrust of police. That's actually long been the case in a lot of places. I've talked a lot of black men, including some big wigs with some bucks, about this over the years, there's just no trust there.
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Which is a very serious problem. If the community actively distrusts and hates all cops then they are never going to be able to really fix their communities. There needs to be good cooperation between black communities and the police in order to really help the drug and gang problems so prevalent in those communities. It's not a problem those communities can effectively fix themselves, especially not without a substantial risk to their own safety. Instead of running around and screaming about how unfair life is, how all cops are evil, and demanding "Safe spaces", an so on these communities need to take a step back and look inward. They need to stop turning a blind eye to all the problems going on around them and start looking for solutions that work. If they think the entire country is against them then it is up to them to prove that they're strong and capable of taking care of themselves. Stop demanding that other people fix everything for them and start trying to do stuff to encourage people to want to help. It's time for these protesters to stop being hypocrites and actually start following the teachings of King and other peaceful activists. I can't imagine that King would be happy with how far the cause he fought so hard for has devolved.
 
heatlesssun said:
But you're ignoring the long history of this subject that dates back to Reconstruction. Many in this forum base their distrust of government on the notion that government keeps doing the same bad things again and again. These voter laws are no different. Same shit for decades, just a different day.
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I'm not ignoring anything. What I am doing is not being a slave to the past. And frankly, if you want dishonest, do some digging on George Soros and the shit he pulls trying to infiltrate governments, manipulate the poor into riots and such, and realize that in the past 40 years, he'd done FAR, FAR more to keep the poor down than any government, because he essentially controls governments and profits off civil unrest. His whole foundation is based on that. He has exposed emails where he has groups paid to "influence" supreme court justices to his favor. He's been DIRECTLY tied to Black Lives Matter, specifically with communications to have key members instigate riots when it suits him.

For all that mistrust, the biggest deal is that there still is a white man making poor young black men dance to his tune, and making them think its for the right reasons, when they are just a tool to be used to stir up unrest when needed politically and financially.

Before anyone can come at me about one happened in the past, first distance yourself from Soros and his manipulations for 3 years and see how much better things get. Then we can have a rational discussion on it. But I can't debate with people who aren't even aware of the puppet master pulling the strings.

And for the record, its not the domain of conspiracy theories anymore. All that stuff can be found on non-biased sites and watchdog group pages, wikileaks chief among them.
 
Derangel said:
Which is a very serious problem. If the community actively distrusts and hates all cops then they are never going to be able to really fix their communities. There needs to be good cooperation between black communities and the police in order to really help the drug and gang problems so prevalent in those communities. It's not a problem those communities can effectively fix themselves, especially not without a substantial risk to their own safety. Instead of running around and screaming about how unfair life is, how all cops are evil, and demanding "Safe spaces", an so on these communities need to take a step back and look inward. They need to stop turning a blind eye to all the problems going on around them and start looking for solutions that work. If they think the entire country is against them then it is up to them to prove that they're strong and capable of taking care of themselves. Stop demanding that other people fix everything for them and start trying to do stuff to encourage people to want to help. It's time for these protesters to stop being hypocrites and actually start following the teachings of King and other peaceful activists. I can't imagine that King would be happy with how far the cause he fought so hard for has devolved.
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Not at all - MLK is one of my personal heroes. But Soros has his hooks in via his proxies in the DNC and BLM. It's not an easy thing to bounce back after being controlled and beaten down and brainwashed for so long.
 
Too little, too late.

I think they're just now feeling the repercussions of their censoring, so now they're trying to do the right thing.

Fuck 'em let them sink
 
Zion Halcyon said:
I'm not ignoring anything. What I am doing is not being a slave to the past.
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There's a BIG difference between being a slave to the past and seeing the same thing happening over and over. Laws meant to fix a problem that even the law makers can't provide evidence is an issue are being written for another reason.
 
Derangel said:
Which is a very serious problem. If the community actively distrusts and hates all cops then they are never going to be able to really fix their communities. There needs to be good cooperation between black communities and the police in order to really help the drug and gang problems so prevalent in those communities. It's not a problem those communities can effectively fix themselves, especially not without a substantial risk to their own safety. Instead of running around and screaming about how unfair life is, how all cops are evil, and demanding "Safe spaces", an so on these communities need to take a step back and look inward. They need to stop turning a blind eye to all the problems going on around them and start looking for solutions that work. If they think the entire country is against them then it is up to them to prove that they're strong and capable of taking care of themselves. Stop demanding that other people fix everything for them and start trying to do stuff to encourage people to want to help. It's time for these protesters to stop being hypocrites and actually start following the teachings of King and other peaceful activists. I can't imagine that King would be happy with how far the cause he fought so hard for has devolved.
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I've read that the "War on Drugs" has caused a lot of this friction between police officers and communities.
Sources:
America’s Top Cops Just Called the War on Drugs 'A Tremendous Failure' | VICE News
War on Drugs Policing and Police Brutality. - PubMed - NCBI
RESULTS:
Policing and racism have been mutually constitutive in the United States. Erosions to the 4th Amendment to the Constitution and to the Posse Comitatus Act set the foundations for two War on Drugs policing strategies: stop and frisk and Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) teams. These strategies have created specific conditions conducive to police brutality targeting Black communities. Conclusions/Importance: War on Drugs policing strategies appear to increase police brutality targeting Black communities, even as they make little progress in reducing street-level drug activity. Several jurisdictions are retreating from the War on Drugs; this retreat should include restoring rights originally protected by the 4th Amendment and Posse Comitatus. While these legal changes occur, police chiefs should discontinue the use of SWAT teams to deal with low-level nonviolent drug offenses and should direct officers to cease engaging in stop and frisk.
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heatlesssun said:
There's a BIG difference between being a slave to the past and seeing the same thing happening over and over. Laws meant to fix a problem that even the law makers can't provide evidence is an issue are being written for another reason.
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Here's the thing - NONE of that has to do with Voter Registration, so long as it is open for all legal US citizens, and people aren't getting denied who bring legit proof that they are a resident and a citizen. Done and done. Everything else is just an attempt to conflate and distract. And you still haven't addressed the PAID agitators who start a lot of the civil unrest - something other, more upstanding members in those poorer communities have noticed and made mention when allowed, yet silenced by a media on essentially the same payroll as the paid agitators.

I WON'T let you conveniently ignore that.
 
heatlesssun said:
But that doesn't explain differences in sentencing for the same crimes or even routine policing. And right now, if you're a black guy, doesn't matter socioeconomic standing, you probably have an inherent distrust of police. That's actually long been the case in a lot of places. I've talked a lot of black men, including some big wigs with some bucks, about this over the years, there's just no trust there.
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I can understand that. But that's not systemic. That's individual judges and policemen being racist on their own. But the statistics can also lie. It doesn't contain the circumstances of said cases. So one murder doesn't equal another murder. So in order to determine fairness of sentencing. You'd have to look at each of the cases individually. Also the police can claim the very same thing. The sheer number of black people that turn violent or get agitated when questioned by the police made them to inherently distrust black people during routine checks.
 
M76 said:
The sheer number of black people that turn violent or get agitated when questioned by the police made them to inherently distrust black people during routine checks.
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And this is exactly the kind of thing I'm saying. So even if you are a law abiding black you're automatically fucked. This is why I think there's even a greater distrust among socioeconomically better off blacks because it just doesn't matter what we do, a cop is predisposed to have it for you. Especially if you're in a nice car or in the "wrong neighborhood" or have a hot white chick. And I've seen this kind of shit more than a few times with my own eyes.

It's easy to pick on the black urban thug. But they aren't the only blacks getting shafted. You should listen to what Tim Scott said on the Senate floor about this.
 
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