GTX 1080 - Founders Edition?

Nobody really knows. They hinted at cherry-picked chips that overclock better. It will probably be the only reference 1080 available as well, but aftermarket coolers are always better anyway. My personal guess is that they're calling reference cards "Founder's Editions" because they're the only ones that will be available for purchase before late June, and they aren't faster at all. But... just my guess.
 
"The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 "Founders Edition" will be available on May 27 for $699. It will be available from ASUS, Colorful, EVGA, Gainward, Galaxy, Gigabyte, Innovision 3D, MSI, NVIDIA. Palit, PNY and Zotac. Custom boards from partners will vary by region and pricing is expected to start at $599."

From Here: A Quantum Leap in Gaming: NVIDIA Introduces GeForce GTX 1080

It still doesn't mention how it's differentiates from custom boards. It might just be a way to keep the gouging to a minimum at the start.
 
"The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 "Founders Edition" will be available on May 27 for $699. It will be available from ASUS, Colorful, EVGA, Gainward, Galaxy, Gigabyte, Innovision 3D, MSI, NVIDIA. Palit, PNY and Zotac. Custom boards from partners will vary by region and pricing is expected to start at $599."

From Here: A Quantum Leap in Gaming: NVIDIA Introduces GeForce GTX 1080

It still doesn't mention how it's differentiates from custom boards. It might just be a way to keep the gouging to a minimum at the start.

It sounds more like the opposite, a way for NVidia to rake in more money on their reference design until the lower priced custom boards are available.
 
It sounds more like the opposite, a way for NVidia to rake in more money on their reference design until the lower priced custom boards are available.
Hard to say exactly. In theory it fixes the pricing for the cards so people know they shouldn't pay more than $699 for one. However, in the past reference designs have not had the best coolers. One of the other threads said the founder's edition has a metal shroud and that later reference cards would have a plastic one that looks the same.
 
I don't care if it's plastic, I care about 1) how well it cools and 2) how much noise it makes.

Snowdog: Yep, looks like you're probably right-- the first round of 1080s will all be reference designs at $699; if you want a $599 1080 we'll need to wait a month or so. Makes sense if GDDR5x is initially in short supply.
 
Things are changing a bit with how NVIDIA is handling "reference" cards. Those ref cards are now being called Founders Edition card and are being looked at to be a continued product line throughout the lifespan of the chipset. The cooler is very expensive and the components down on the PCB are supposed to be top quality.. I just asked if NVIDIA would give us a list of components and they said they would get that info back to us.
 
Founding Fathers edition made of wood from Washintons false teeth. I kid I kid...
 
Interesting! I wonder why they called it the Founder's Edition, then? That name implies limited availability right at the beginning of the launch. Should have called it the "1080 Pure" or something.

Marketing. Founders editions sounds cool and special. Reference model doesn't.
 
Usually, "founders editions" are essentially "day one editions", released when a new console comes out or a new MMO launches. You have to prepurchase them, and once the initial run is gone, it's gone.

It's not a problem, it's all just marketing fluff of course. Just a bit odd that they chose that particular name.
 
graphics card are the worst buy and worst investment on a PC.
every six months they throw out a new model that make older cards impossible to resell.

how much will worth my GTX980 Ti SLI if I would like to resell it for 1080?
how much will worth my GTX980 Ti SLI if I would like to resell it on december 1080 Ti?
 
A graphics card is something you use, not invest in to sell in the future. You should look into stocks or real estate instead.

if there is no resell potential is not something that you use, is something that you use and throw out after six months.
 
if there is no resell potential is not something that you use, is something that you use and throw out after six months.

There's resale potential. You can get several hundred dollars for your 980 Ti's to help fund an upgrade.
 
What exactly am I founding? Nvidia has been out for awhile now right?
 
Anything labeled as Founders Edition in the past has always equated to Guinea Pig to me.

Just my opinion.
 
Interesting! I wonder why they called it the Founder's Edition, then? That name implies limited availability right at the beginning of the launch. Should have called it the "1080 Pure" or something.

Hope you guys got hardware and are playing with it now!
Straight forward English.
The Founder is NVidia.
This is their edition of the card.
 
graphics card are the worst buy and worst investment on a PC.
every six months they throw out a new model that make older cards impossible to resell.

how much will worth my GTX980 Ti SLI if I would like to resell it for 1080?
how much will worth my GTX980 Ti SLI if I would like to resell it on december 1080 Ti?

Corollary . Those who bought r9 290/290x have had great performance for 2.5 years now and the cards have only gotten better with driver optimozations
 
Isn't that a bit of a sleight of hand? Huang pretty much went up there and didn't dispel the notion that there would be two different cards coming out. Regardless, this will just mean they can keep raising prices for future releases. Come on now, why would the aibs sell the product for a $100 less, especially if their custom parts perform better than the reference card?
 
Come on now, why would the aibs sell the product for a $100 less, especially if their custom parts perform better than the reference card?
Because they want to get a leg up on their competitor? Between MSI, Gigabyte, Asus, EVGA, Zotac, etc someone is going to decide to drop the price well below the Founder's Edition if they think it will get them more business. Their competitors will have no choice but to follow suit.
 
I'm sure Kyle will show us if the founders cards are worth it. I want to believe that they cherry picked chips that OC nicely on air. Does anyone know if the card that was running at 2.1Ghz was on air or water?
 
Hahaha cherry picked chips, do you really believe that they would do that for such a fraction of an already low volume product line... man the fanboy craziness is insane here. People swallowing marketing bullshit mixed with rumours by the concrete mixer truck load.

No, it's a cash grab for a 100 dollar, overpriced $5 cooler and naming that the fanboys will lap up. 'Only got the 1080?! Pssshhht you're such a n00b!'

I'd bet my entire rig that a suitable Accelero will shit all over this overpriced POS. 'Oh but warranty overclocking with the cooler'.. umm yeah good luck with that.
 
I'm not so sure.
My EVGA 980ti ACX2.0+ cooler with fan turned up to 75% is better than my Accelero Xtreme IV.
I got close to 1500MHz stable with the the ACX 2.0+ cooler (with 1.25V modded bios) but only near 1480MHz with the Xtreme IV and the same bios. I put the original bios back on and got the same approx 1480MHz with the Xtreme IV.

The difference is the fans air throughput and noise.
The ACX 2.0+ can shift a hell of a lot more air but its nowhere near quiet.
When running quiet with the standard bios, it was stable at around 1430MHz.
The Xtreme IV is practically silent on full speed.
 
In your case, perhaps not. But for reference, there is a bit of a difference to a multi fan aftermarket design and a blower.... a blower is never going to touch an ACX or Accelero cooler design, unless it's operating at mach 10 blade speed with 1100db of noise.

But yes you're right the Accellero is made for quiet vs total cooling performance but with a great compromise in my books. I hate noisy computers.
 
I doubt it personally, but Pascal might not need that level of cooling-- it's possible that the chips top out around 2.1Ghz even on LN2. After all, it only hit 67F cooled on air. Completely new underlying structure and architecture. We just don't know yet.
 
So only the Founders edition will be available on May 27th? I want to pair it up with Broadwell-E when it releases
 
Is that supposed to translate into it being a very high performance cooler, or just a statement that it's costly to make?
All those oblique angles are not easy to cut quickly, so the time it takes probably adds to the cost. If it's using magnesium in the shroud like the 980 Ti and Titan X that is also going to increase the cost. Also have to think of pure copper versus aluminum in the heatsink. Whether or not the cost translates to better cooling is unknown. This is a new architecture that is also on a smaller node with a different thermal profile, so we'll have to wait and see.
 
So the Reference shroud is considered the Founders Edition? Wtf? I have always purchased the reference card and now it's considered the "premium version"?
 
So the Reference shroud is considered the Founders Edition? Wtf? I have always purchased the reference card and now it's considered the "premium version"?
Yes, you are correct. NVIDIA's take on it is that it has always been a premium product that has been undercharged for. At least that is the feel I get from all the discussion.
 
Kyle, WCFTech had an article that reviews of the new GTX cards could happen by the end of next week or so, can you comment on when abouts we'll get our [H] review?
 
Kyle, WCFTech had an article that reviews of the new GTX cards could happen by the end of next week or so, can you comment on when abouts we'll get our [H] review?
Nope. WCFTech is a rumor site and not a partner with NVIDIA in any way so they are not bound by NVIDIA embargo, or bound to even validate if any rumor they post is even close to true.
 
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