Windows 10 Updates Ruin Everything

Too bad Linux isn't as annoying as Windows. How can Linux hope to become as popular as Windows if it doesn't annoy it's users?

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I have yet to have this issue but then again, I tend to check regularly for updates. This is a very isolated issue that seem to have happened to someone who most likely " optimized " his OS for gaming & went on to flat out ignore updating the OS until this happened.
 
I'm going to hang on to Windows 7 for another 2 or 3 years even if it means I don't get to play DX12 games. Hopefully there will be DX11 options.

Windows 7 is very mature, performance is amazing, not nearly as much data collection and in general, crap like this.

What I am hoping that in the next 3 - 5 years, the PC user base shrinks to the point game devs become desperate. Microsoft becomes desperate and that engineer / design future Windows releases get back to it's simpler roots. Too much focus on selling services, data collection, etc etc. Windows 10 seems bloated to me, something you can't really trust.
 
I have yet to have this issue but then again, I tend to check regularly for updates. This is a very isolated issue that seem to have happened to someone who most likely " optimized " his OS for gaming & went on to flat out ignore updating the OS until this happened.


So the dude has his auto reboot time set wrong.

Not Windows' problem. It is a PEBKAC error.

Or ID10T error.

This and This. I've never had it happen either; been gaming without interruption every day since release. Although, I do have the auto reboot set to "schedule restart" and tend to hit the check for updates button when I first start the computer up in the morning. It only takes like 10 seconds and prevents this.
 
At the risk of being labeled an idiot, this has happened to me, I wasn't live streaming, but I was in a match and Win10 decided it was going to do it's thing right there without asking me about it.

I suppose this means I am ignorant about the auto reboot time feature? Never heard of it.

Perhaps someone would be so kind as to inform ?

In my defense, it's hard to be aware of a feature you don't know exists to begin with. Ignorance is bliss I was told. Seems ignorance is many other things as well.
 
I've been running Win10 for a couple of months, at least one of the machines has yet to interrupt me with a forced update & reboot. Sounds like this guy didn't bother to set his update settings to something other than the default. I thought everyone learned to do that back in the XP days :)
 
all you need for linux to take off, is game developers start making games for it, now they have vulkan, so to me it's all up to game devs now.
ppl underestimate the power of PC games for a user choice of OS, once this happens everything will fall in line, from drivers to softwares.
 
all you need for linux to take off, is game developers start making games for it, now they have vulkan, so to me it's all up to game devs now.
ppl underestimate the power of PC games for a user choice of OS, once this happens everything will fall in line, from drivers to softwares.

Not for me. I wouldn't touch it for gaming. I learned my lesson long ago with the Amiga. I spent so much money chasing "the best computer for gaming" that somehow never had any good games made for it, never again.

I will not join in on the great experiment just to become the test dummy and pay for it with my wallet.

Now if I wake up some day and MS is face down in the dirt and I am seeing titles being released for Linux and not for MS, then I will re-evaluate my position at that time, but not before.
 
And it's reasons like this as to why I am still running Windows 7 at home and at work.
To be fair windows xp 7 and 8 have all done this to me. This is not new behavior to be mid game then suddenly restarts due to updates...
 
all you need for linux to take off, is game developers start making games for it, now they have vulkan, so to me it's all up to game devs now.
ppl underestimate the power of PC games for a user choice of OS, once this happens everything will fall in line, from drivers to softwares.

and that thing called Microsoft Office which is a necessity on basically every corporate workstation...
 
The best kind of PR is the stuff that happens in the real world. As a side bonus it's nice to have it broadcast for 130,000 viewers out in the open of course, good job MS lol.
 
I didn't watch it, but was this an update or was it installing 10? If it's the former, was it 3 AM? If it's the latter, I don't know how that happens. My mom has been putting off updating and it's never installed on her machine (and I did nothing to stop it)
 
To be fair windows xp 7 and 8 have all done this to me. This is not new behavior to be mid game then suddenly restarts due to updates...
The point is that you can tell Windows 7 not to update without your permission / prompting and it will obey.

If you leave it on auto, it will behave as though you left it on auto.
Sort of not what the conversation is about.
:p
 
Too bad Linux isn't as annoying as Windows. How can Linux hope to become as popular as Windows if it doesn't annoy it's users?

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HA! Would like to see the Windows 10 version of that.
Instead of the penguin it would be The Borg kicking the door down saying "Resistance is futile!!"
The guy would be banging the keys trying to cancel and then the Borg would drag him away and strip
him into a "mutualizer" .
 
I have yet to have this issue but then again, I tend to check regularly for updates. This is a very isolated issue that seem to have happened to someone who most likely " optimized " his OS for gaming & went on to flat out ignore updating the OS until this happened.

No. There's nothing "isolated" about a default setting.
 
So the dude has his auto reboot time set wrong.

Not Windows' problem. It is a PEBKAC error.

Or ID10T error.

Thank you. I was thinking he either was running the home version or deferred the update for so long that it finally installed.
 
HA! Would like to see the Windows 10 version of that.
Instead of the penguin it would be The Borg kicking the door down saying "Resistance is futile!!"
The guy would be banging the keys trying to cancel and then the Borg would drag him away and strip
him into a "mutualizer" .

More like...

Windows 7: I have some updates!

User: eh, I don't want them.

Windows 7 : okay :(

User: Ah, WTF, how did this keylogger get installed!?

User: ITS ALL YOUR FAULT MICROSOFT. YOU HAVE A S****Y OS. YOU CAN'T CODE FOR S***.

later:

Microsoft to force Windows 10 on users with automatic updates from 2016
 
It's a sad state of affairs if anyone thinks it's normal that you have to change the default of an OS to prevent it from interrupting your productivity. You shouldn't be bothered with it at all really. A simple balloon that states updates are ready is more than sufficient to handle a damn OS update. Linux works this way, and XP did as well.

The default of anything shouldn't be to interrupt what you are doing. Want to make sure the OS gets updated? How about prompting the user on startup or shutdown? Simple. Easy.
 
It's a sad state of affairs if anyone thinks it's normal that you have to change the default of an OS to prevent it from interrupting your productivity. You shouldn't be bothered with it at all really. A simple balloon that states updates are ready is more than sufficient to handle a damn OS update. Linux works this way, and XP did as well.

The default of anything shouldn't be to interrupt what you are doing. Want to make sure the OS gets updated? How about prompting the user on startup or shutdown? Simple. Easy.
They changed it, because too many people weren't updating their OS. If you're not smart enough to change the default, the default should be left alone. And given that the default is to install at something like 3:00 AM, it's unlikely infringe on 99% of users productivity. There are very few people that I'd turn off auto update, because repeatedly I've seen that they'll go 6 months or a year without updating if it's not automated and that includes engineers that should know better.
 
"If you're not smart enough to change the default, the default should be left alone"

Is the setting buried of moved? Not saying it is but not sure I would call people dumb. There is an article out there where a developer audited Windows 10 for the steps it takes to launch an application, change a setting, etc etc and he came away with some startling news. Some of you I'm sure read the same article I did. Basically, with Windows 10, this happened. Microsoft in their great wisdom actually made it more time consuming and harder for the consumer to change defaults, make changes, add information, etc. To the tune of an additional 230+ clicks over Windows 7.

230 casual un-rushed clicks over the course of a few hours could add up to several minutes. I mean, we all want our new OS to be not only faster but stream-lined. Not really the case with Windows 10. You have to understand Windows 10 is a platform for data collection first and foremost.

Here is a personal example that pisses me off. You can no longer forget a wifi access point name / password from the wifi acess list in Windows 10 now. This process which would take a split second now has the end user going through hurdles. There are hundreds of these examples in Windows 10.

Windows 10 is still a lot slower in many functions than Windows 10. There are dozens of articles out there on this subject. Anyone can find this stuff and educate themselves. And these are not Windows 10 haters, these are people that just really want to know the answer.

Most consumers ( many of you ) only need one metric to make a determination if they like something or not and for Windows 10, it's because it's what's NEW. That's all. "Oh, Windows 10 is new, I have to install it!" That's all most of you need. Doesn't make it faster, stronger or better.
 
Thank you. I was thinking he either was running the home version or deferred the update for so long that it finally installed.
Wait, so the home version can't be stopped if it wants to update?
 
I'm happy with Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB. Only pushes critical security updates and does not include apps, edge, or cortana. FWIW I also use OOSU10, SpybotAntiBeaconPortable, and Destroy Windows Spying. I run 200% dpi and noticed lots of games and programs scale better with W10 than they did on W7.
 
"If you're not smart enough to change the default, the default should be left alone"

Is the setting buried of moved? Not saying it is but not sure I would call people dumb. There is an article out there where a developer audited Windows 10 for the steps it takes to launch an application, change a setting, etc etc and he came away with some startling news. Some of you I'm sure read the same article I did. Basically, with Windows 10, this happened. Microsoft in their great wisdom actually made it more time consuming and harder for the consumer to change defaults, make changes, add information, etc. To the tune of an additional 230+ clicks over Windows 7.

230 casual un-rushed clicks over the course of a few hours could add up to several minutes. I mean, we all want our new OS to be not only faster but stream-lined. Not really the case with Windows 10. You have to understand Windows 10 is a platform for data collection first and foremost.

Here is a personal example that pisses me off. You can no longer forget a wifi access point name / password from the wifi acess list in Windows 10 now. This process which would take a split second now has the end user going through hurdles. There are hundreds of these examples in Windows 10.

Windows 10 is still a lot slower in many functions than Windows 10. There are dozens of articles out there on this subject. Anyone can find this stuff and educate themselves. And these are not Windows 10 haters, these are people that just really want to know the answer.

Most consumers ( many of you ) only need one metric to make a determination if they like something or not and for Windows 10, it's because it's what's NEW. That's all. "Oh, Windows 10 is new, I have to install it!" That's all most of you need. Doesn't make it faster, stronger or better.

It takes these steps to change the default update settings on Windows 10 Pro (don't have home).
Start button
type windows update
down arrow
<enter>
Click top drop down and change to Notify to schedule restart

All of that takes about 5-10 seconds, depending on how fast you type.

As for the rest, I don't know, but you can easily change any connection to not automatically connect.
 
Unless you have Red Hat and don't pay for the Red Hat Network subscription. Cause then when you request an update it says "no RHN? fuck off"

Too bad Linux isn't as annoying as Windows. How can Linux hope to become as popular as Windows if it doesn't annoy it's users?

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