34" 21:9 UltraWide Displays (3440x1440) - LG UM95/UM65 & Dell U3415W

I love my Dell U3415W (21:9). I am coming from a Dell 2410 (16:10) and wanted a larger screen, but did not want a bezel in the middle as I would get with two monitors. Three monitors was not physically doable. Here is a physical comparison of the display size of a 34 inch 21:9 monitor (ignoring the curvature) and a 40 inch 4K (16:9) monitor:

34 in. 21:9: width = 31.3 in. (79.4 cm) , height = 13.4 in. (34.0 cm)
40 in. 16:9: width = 29.6 in. (75.3 cm) , height = 16.7 in. (42.3 cm)

So both monitors are ~ 30 inches (76.2 cm) wide. I'm surprised they are so similar. Of course, the major difference is in height with the 4K monitor being 25% taller.
A comparison of the pixel resolution using the display dimensions above:

34 in. 21:9 @ 3440 x 1440: horizontal = 110 pixels/in.. , vertical = 107 pixels/in.
40 in. 16:9 @ 3840 x 2160: horizontal = 130 pixels/in.. , vertical = 129 pixels/in.

So the 40 in. 4K monitor has ~ 19% more pixels per inch in each dimension.

For a 34 in. 21: 9 @ 2560 x 1080 monitor the pixel/in. value is ~81. Comparing this to the higher resolution monitors: the 3440 x 1440 monitor would be 34% higher and the 4K monitor would be 59% higher. I'm sure both of these differences would be noticeable.
 
TheNatureBoyWooooo said:
40" 4K for $699CDN or 34" 21:9 3440x1440P for $1150CDN.

Why would I pay $500+ more for a smaller screen and one that is a lower res?

Even if the LG was the same price, it wouldnt be worth it, let alone paying $500 more is absurd.
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I'm not saying that the 4K display doesn't make more sense for you, especially given Canadian prices (which have always been insane). My issue is with your claim that 21:9 doesn't make sense given your experience with a clearly inferior version of what everyone's talking about here.
 
silent-circuit said:
I'm not saying that the 4K display doesn't make more sense for you, especially given Canadian prices (which have always been insane). My issue is with your claim that 21:9 doesn't make sense given your experience with a clearly inferior version of what everyone's talking about here.
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I definitely agree, ultrawides were never appealing to me until the 34" 3440x1440 models came out. Most of his complaints don't apply to the higher res model.
 
silent-circuit said:
I'm not saying that the 4K display doesn't make more sense for you, especially given Canadian prices (which have always been insane). My issue is with your claim that 21:9 doesn't make sense given your experience with a clearly inferior version of what everyone's talking about here.
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Well yes I should be comparing the UM95 model to my 40" 4K, but at $500 more, the price of the UM95 here in Canada is a rip off and well out of my ballpark. I would never spend that much on a monitor ever. Even $700 was pushing it for this 4K.

If the UM95 was $700CDN than I would consider it, enough to at least take home to try it out.. $400CDN Is what I felt the UM65 to be worth about. NO way is that monitor worth $570CDN lol. (and this was a sale price!). I feel you pay a kings ransom just for the no bezel.

For the few days that i used the UM65, I really did like the 21:9 aspect ratio alot. Ideally, I could view the UM95 in the store, but the price is just outrageous on it. If LG wants to charge that much for the UM95, make it 42".

The UM65 model isnt bad, just the res sucks. Felt pretty much like a fattened 27" monitor.

Coming from someone who used dual 27" 1080P monitors at my old job, I will never go with a 1080P monitor again. Simply cause I like to sit close to my monitors and I was getting eye strain with the 1080P monitors. Similar effect on the 34" UM65. I see it as pretty much a 27" monitor in height but has an additional 30% width.
 
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This has been an interesting discussion. I was surprised that the 34 in. 21:9 was about the same width as the 40 in. 4K. That really takes away the argument that a 40 in. 4K is too big for a desk. It's just taller (and heavier) plus sharper.
 
I think I am gonna try an ultrawide and if it doesnt work will get the dell U2715h for now and wait till more 4K screens comes out and everything settles down a little. Especially on the windows scaling, programs catching up etc...

Sure if you would be making 4k app designs all the time it is nice, and sure it is probably really nice to game on if you have the GPU power. But at the moment I think 4k screens are just not ready yet. Thats just my opinion... and I could be wrong.
 
Qrash said:
This has been an interesting discussion. I was surprised that the 34 in. 21:9 was about the same width as the 40 in. 4K. That really takes away the argument that a 40 in. 4K is too big for a desk. It's just taller (and heavier) plus sharper.
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what?

Seiki SE42UMS 42-Inch 4K Ultra HD LED TV (2015 Model)
42.1 x 6.9 x 25.8 inches

Dell UltraSharp U3415W 34-Inch
32.47 x 8.5 x 20.62 inches

that is 10 inches. like the lies about penis size.
 
We both messed up. I screwed up my math and you quoted the dimensions of the Seiki TV's shipping carton, not the TV itself.

Me: The correct dimensions of a 40 inch (diagonal) display like TheNatureBoyWooooo's Philips 4K TV (16:9 ratio) are width = 34.9 in. and height = 19.6 in. This is just the display area, not including the bezel or any other material. So the 40 inch TV's display area is 5 inches wider than the Dell U3415W monitor. Also, Doing the math correctly produces nearly identical pixels/inch for these two displays in both dimensions (~ 110).

You: Accoring to the Seiki website, the SE42UMS TV is a 41.5 inch panel and its external dimensions without the stand are 37.48 in. x 21.21 in. x 3.27 in. Your dimensions for the Dell U3415W are correct which means the Seiki TV is 5 inches wider, not 10 inches.
 
for accuracy, the dell dimensions are not correct, they include the base. the width is correct, the height including bezel is 14 3/4 and depth is about 2''.
 
Qrash said:
So far this afternoon I have not had any of the blanking events on my Dell U3415W monitor after replacing my 2m DisplayPort cable (unknown brand) with a new 1m Accell UltraAV B142C-003B-2 cable that is certified for DisplayPort 1.2 operation and changing my monitor back to 1.2 mode using its menu system. Perhaps the problem was caused by my previous cable not being fully capable of 1.2 operation.
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Update: It's been a few days now and I have not had any blanking events with my Dell U3415W after replacing my old DisplayPort cable with one certified for DisplayPort 1.2 operation. So the problem was my old cable and not the monitor.

I suspect Dell's Knowledge Article for this problem that recommends changing the monitor to 1.1 operation is to deal with older DisplayPort cables that are not certified for 1.2.
 
When are the Dell U3416W models supposed to hit store shelves? Wondering if I should wait for them...

Newegg needs to drop their damn prices back down. Anyone know who has the U3415W for sub $700 right now?

Also, anyone know if there are any compatibility issues with these & Ubuntu/Linux? Moving over to it and away from windows on my current build, which includes the Dell U3416W
 
I don't believe Dell has announced any update to its ultrawide line. There would have been news on it at CES and I didn't see anything.

LG announced some new models, though. Main difference is the inclusion of FreeSync.
 
Man I'm in a pickle.

Already have a 27" NEC 2560x1440 display and some crappy Asus 1920x1200. Debating if I should just get another 27" 2560x1440 to replace the Asus, go widescreen or do something with 4k. From what I've ready 4k seems best but also a bit ahead of its time with respect to video cards and displays since only TV's or Korean displays support it unless you want to deal with scaling etc.

I just read that dell is releasing their Infinity Edge line for 2016 which continues with the 2560x1440 resolution of its predecessor. Perhaps adding a second 27 is the way to go! At least before 4k becomes prime time.
 
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davewolfs said:
From what I've ready 4k seems best but also a bit ahead of its time with respect to video cards and displays since only TV's or Korean displays support it unless you want to deal with scaling etc.
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Not quite...

Philips BDM4065UC

Seiki SM40UNP

Both are actual purpose-built computer monitors, not TVs.
 
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x3sphere said:
I don't believe Dell has announced any update to its ultrawide line. There would have been news on it at CES and I didn't see anything.

LG announced some new models, though. Main difference is the inclusion of FreeSync.
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Yeah, I doubt we'll see any '16 models hit the shelves Q1. If I had to guess it would be mid year or later before they actually hit the shelves.
 
davewolfs said:
Man I'm in a pickle.

Already have a 27" NEC 2560x1440 display and some crappy Asus 1920x1200. Debating if I should just get another 27" 2560x1440 to replace the Asus, go widescreen or do something with 4k. From what I've ready 4k seems best but also a bit ahead of its time with respect to video cards and displays since only TV's or Korean displays support it unless you want to deal with scaling etc.

I just read that dell is releasing their Infinity Edge line for 2016 which continues with the 2560x1440 resolution of its predecessor. Perhaps adding a second 27 is the way to go! At least before 4k becomes prime time.
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I am thinking the same as you, as I need a new monitor I thought alot about going 27" 1440p , an ultrawide or 4K...

From what I decided so far is that I am going to order an LG ultrawide or Dell this week (dont know what is best), if I like the ultrawide for work/webdesign/remote work etc... I will keep it. If not going to take a 27" dell u2715h. I thought alot and while I can drop down 1500€ max on a monitor, I am going to wait to go 4K. There is still a bunch of programs giving problems, especially older ones. Hell even I think even many autodesk programs dont have support I am not sure. And there is many others aswell. Than there is still from what I read alot of scaling problems even in win10 etc... also all your old photoshop work and stuff looks crazy bad, so you almost need another 1440p or 1080p monitor... I just think its not right to go 4K yet. Unless your only doing photo editing work I guess or 4K app designs. And for the gaming part you need crazy GPU power! just my thoughts
 
I called Newegg today to see if they would honor that $679 price from a couple of weeks ago and they said they can't/won't at this time because Dell isn't offering the rebate any longer.

They obviously can't say for certain when it comes to upcoming pricing, but they said to "keep a watchful eye on it as the price should be dropping back down again soon"

That's the best they could do and I have time to wait, I will just make sure I'm ready to pull the trigger when it gets down to that $700 mark. I'm currently seeing it at $879 through newegg, which is a $200 price difference, but they we're showing it at $815 in their system? So I have no idea what's going on with the price.

Newegg also thinks with out saying anything "official" that we may see the 16' versions on Q1, but that was just from a rep saying it off the books, so we'll have to wait and see.

A 1440 34" (or bigger would be even nicer, like a 40", but wider/longer - not taller like a tv) curved monitor to me, is way better all the way around than a 4k at this point based on the available/compatible technology. Also I'm not a gamer (I am but play PS4) and productivity/multi-tasking is more important to me and I'm coming from three 25" dell 1080p monitors.
 
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thegreywizard said:
I called Newegg today to see if they would honor that $679 price from a couple of weeks ago and they said they can't/won't at this time because Dell isn't offering the rebate any longer.

They obviously can't say for certain when it comes to upcoming pricing, but they said to "keep a watchful eye on it as the price should be dropping back down again soon"

That's the best they could do and I have time to wait, I will just make sure I'm ready to pull the trigger when it gets down to that $700 mark. I'm currently seeing it at $879 through newegg, which is a $200 price difference, but they we're showing it at $815 in their system? So I have no idea what's going on with the price.

Newegg also thinks with out saying anything "official" that we may see the 16' versions on Q1, but that was just from a rep saying it off the books, so we'll have to wait and see.

A 1440 34" (or bigger would be even nicer, like a 40", but wider/longer - not taller like a tv) curved monitor to me, is way better all the way around than a 4k at this point based on the available/compatible technology. Also I'm not a gamer (I am but play PS4) and productivity/multi-tasking is more important to me and I'm coming from three 25" dell 1080p monitors.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._mmc=EMC-GD012016-_-index-_-Item-_-24-260-239
 
The Dell isn't worth it. it is slow. it is a nice IPS panel but slow I didn't like it for any fast pace games. TitanFall, CS: Go, otherwise the screen is amazing but I have a ROG Swift @ 144hz that I am comparing it to so going back to 60hz is painful!

Waiting for ROG Swift 34" at least 100 or 120hz
 
thegreywizard said:
!!!!

Done and done! I didn't even check my email until just now and it seems it was their flash deal of the day - good looking out!

I guess they really did mean to keep a close eye on it lol

Can't wait to try it out on the new system I'm building!
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Saw the same thing this am in the email.. Its on the way to me as well :D
 
FYI, I did not use the included DisplayPort/mini-DisplayPort cable that comes with the Dell U3415W. My laptop has a full size DisplayPort connection so I used an existing cable that has a full size connector on both ends. This cable was not compatible with DisplayPort 1.2 and caused blanking issues. Changing the monitor to DispalyPort 1.1 operation fixed the problem, but left me dissatisfied. This week I replaced the old cable with one that is certified for 1.2 operation and returned the monitor to 1.2 operation and the blanking problem has not returned.
 
Nickbaldwin86 said:
The Dell isn't worth it. it is slow. it is a nice IPS panel but slow I didn't like it for any fast pace games. TitanFall, CS: Go, otherwise the screen is amazing but I have a ROG Swift @ 144hz that I am comparing it to so going back to 60hz is painful!

Waiting for ROG Swift 34" at least 100 or 120hz
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Totally a matter of opinion. One could equally say that the ROG isn't worth it because it's expensive for a TN screen and the Dell is larger and higher resolution (better for productivity and immersion) and has better colors.

You really can't compare the two, they are so different. Now the ROG Swift vs. the Acer 144Hz or the Dell vs. any of the other ultrawide monitors, yes.
 
imyourzero said:
Totally a matter of opinion. One could equally say that the ROG isn't worth it because it's expensive for a TN screen and the Dell is larger and higher resolution (better for productivity and immersion) and has better colors.

You really can't compare the two, they are so different. Now the ROG Swift vs. the Acer 144Hz or the Dell vs. any of the other ultrawide monitors, yes.
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That is why I stated for gaming. For productivity of course I would go with the Dell. They are not the same but they are both monitors and yes it is my opinion.

Again... why is it taking ASUS to answer back with a 34" ROG Swift?

I want to trade up my 27" for this!
http://www.pcper.com/news/Displays/...t-PG348Q-34-inch-219-100Hz-IPS-G-SYNC-Monitor
 
Just received delivery this morning of the Dell U3415W that I bought from Newegg for $699. Very nice Ultra wide.
 
skline00 said:
Just received delivery this morning of the Dell U3415W that I bought from Newegg for $699. Very nice Ultra wide.
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Welcome to the club! I hope you like it as much as I like mine. What will you use this for?

If you use the DisplayPort connection let us know if you have any of the blanking events that I and others have had. In my case getting a certified 1.2 DisplayPort cable solved it.
 
Qrash said:
FYI, I did not use the included DisplayPort/mini-DisplayPort cable that comes with the Dell U3415W. My laptop has a full size DisplayPort connection so I used an existing cable that has a full size connector on both ends. This cable was not compatible with DisplayPort 1.2 and caused blanking issues. Changing the monitor to DispalyPort 1.1 operation fixed the problem, but left me dissatisfied. This week I replaced the old cable with one that is certified for 1.2 operation and returned the monitor to 1.2 operation and the blanking problem has not returned.
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Some companies are being very shady with their listings too. Absolutely stay away from Cable Matters. Multiple people have experienced the same blanking problem with their cables. I just ordered this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0098HVXVQ. They straight up list the throughput: VESA CERTIFIED: DisplayPort 1.2 compliant, up to 21.6Gbps throughput.
 
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mrgstiffler said:
Some companies are being very shady with their listings too. Absolutely stay away from Cable Matters. Multiple people have experienced the same blanking problem with their cables. I just ordered this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0098HVXVQ. They straight up list the throughput: VESA CERTIFIED: DisplayPort 1.2 compliant, up to 21.6Gbps throughput.
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Yes, I ordered Accell's 1.2 certified 1 m cable and it solved my blanking.
 
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Qrash said:
Yes, I ordered Accell's 1.2 certified 1 m cable and it solved my blanking.
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Good to hear. I ordered their 3m cable. Hopefully it does the same thing. I had the blanking start on original 6' cable, which is also Cable Matters. So that's their 6' and 15' that I've had issues with.
 
If you're using the Dell, you can use the included cable regardless of the type of card you have -- mini-DP to full size DP is reversible, and the display has both types of inputs (mini and full size) so just stick whichever end fits in your card, the other end in the display, and profit.

It's also worth noting that it's definitely a good DP 1.2 cable, I've been using it from minute one with my U3415W, and no blanking issues here.
 
Just got my LG ultrawide , I must say its a really nice display but I don't understand how LG or any other company can promote this for professional graphic/design use.

It is pretty much not useable because of the curve.

So I will be sending it back and picking something else, either staying 27" 1440p or something little bigger 4K untill OLED screens are avail :)
 
Karkelolz said:
Just got my LG ultrawide , I must say its a really nice display but I don't understand how LG or any other company can promote this for professional graphic/design use.
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The advantages of Ultrawide in video editing and After Effects are huge. Even DAW users could benefit from an ultrawide desktop area when dealing with multitrack compositions.

But I kinda agree that it's less useful for straight PS or Illustrator.
 
To be fair the flat one is marketed more towards graphic designers, it has a built-in LUT also, unlike the curved model. That means you can load color profiles from calibrations onto the monitor directly.
 
Nah I know flat one will be better but I think its not worth it.

So now again I am left thinking what I will buy... either a 1440p or a 4K it is than, but can't decide.
 
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