1366 x58 Xeon Enthusiast overclocks club

tbob22 said:
Picked up a Asus Z8NA-D6 for $125 to pair with the matched x5670's that I picked up last year.

Should be interesting. :cool:

Edit: It looks like SetFSB does work on this board. The increases seem to be hardly worth it though, someone went from 2.4ghz to 2.448ghz. :) I'll give it a try once it's up and running though
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tell me something....but according to newegg specs it looks like that motherboard will fit into a standard mid tower (or at least the size listed on antec 900 page) i might actually look into going that route instead of going x99 any time soon....let us know how it works out and or give us pictures of your progress :D
 
primetime said:
tell me something....but according to newegg specs it looks like that motherboard will fit into a standard mid tower (or at least the size listed on antec 900 page) i might actually look into going that route instead of going x99 any time soon....let us know how it works out and or give us pictures of your progress :D
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That's a good question. I didn't even bother to really look up too much about it when I saw the price (close to $100 off the usual going price) and I had a $20 ebay coupon that expires tomorrow. :D

I just built a machine based around a P6T and x5670 using a DIYPC D480-BK.

Very good simple case for $50, it comes with 5 quiet, seemingly high quality fans, and 2 speed fan controller. It does seem a little light and maybe wouldn't hold up if moved around a lot, but overall it seems pretty sturdy, is fairly quiet, and has good airflow. A bit of dynamat and it would be absolutely silent. Storage options are limited, so that may be a downside.

I'll probably grab another if this board lines up with the normal mounting holes.
 
primetime said:
tell me something....but according to newegg specs it looks like that motherboard will fit into a standard mid tower (or at least the size listed on antec 900 page) i might actually look into going that route instead of going x99 any time soon....let us know how it works out and or give us pictures of your progress :D
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I have that board with two x5650 CPUs in it. It is in an Antec Sonata case.
I bought the Asus card that goes with that server board, it is not PCI or PCIE.
Sounds good though. Running 6 four gig sticks of Reg-EEC 1333 Samsung memory.
 
Bill1024 said:
I have that board with two x5650 CPUs in it. It is in an Antec Sonata case.
I bought the Asus card that goes with that server board, it is not PCI or PCIE.
Sounds good though. Running 6 four gig sticks of Reg-EEC 1333 Samsung memory.
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Good to know. Should work well with the x5670's and any standard atx case I guess, I'm guessing it should work with any modern PSU with EPS12v as well. What card did you get exactly?

I'll update as I make progress. Should be a fun build :D


On another note, I fiddled around with my newly crossflashed bios (bios for the P6T WS Pro) and really optimized some things. Now running the following and stressed tested for a few hours with both Memtest86 and Prime95.
CPU: [email protected], 185x24
VTT: 1.20v, 2959mhz
Ram: 1853mhz 9-10-9-30 1t, 1.20v (minimum was 1.5v with old bios)

Speed is pretty much exactly the same as before in Cinbench, etc, but with lower temps. P95 sits at about 62c in P95 vs 68c or so before.
 
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tbob22 said:
Good to know. Should work well with the x5670's and any standard atx case I guess, I'm guessing it should work with any modern PSU with EPS12v as well. What card did you get exactly?

I'll update as I make progress. Should be a fun build :D
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I tried a pci card and it either froze or blue screen I don't remember exactly.
It was a good working card too.
So I bought this, it goes with the board.
Newegg is out, none cheap on ebay. Maybe you will have better luck with a pcie card.
Or find one of these cheap someplace.
Good luck with your build.

EDIT: As far as the PSU, EVGA 650 Gold, it came with the two 12V 8 pin connectors
Running win7 it crunches BOINC 24/7/365
R9-280X card in it. Makes for a good BOINC setup.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816110091
 
Bill1024 said:
Amazon has the sound card

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-892-Serv...e=UTF8&qid=1452589557&sr=8-2&keywords=MIO-892
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Cool, I'll try the cards I have and see if they work first. :)

I did notice 16gb sticks are crazy expensive. I'll probably start with two 8gb sticks for testing with the intention of going to 48gb later.

Edit: What coolers are you using? I read that the 212+'s will work, but I'd rather go with a bit better coolers with quieter fans, or just better coolers in general so I can slap a quiet fan on there.
 
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Got the board and popped the CPU's in.

A couple of shots:








Board looks pretty much flawless, pins are perfect, no damage. Now to test :).
 
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Bill1024 said:
Something like this, server type. I could not fit 2 like a 212 type. Sockets are too close.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-2-In...911509?hash=item5d5ec4c1d5:g:W1wAAOSwo0JWN-pp
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Hmm, ok. Maybe I'll go with some second hand Scythe Mugen-2's or Noctua Xeon coolers. Although with the Scythe, I'd have to get creative with the fans, maybe one fan on each side if it would fit.

Here's a board with the Scythe's.
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These CPUs run cool, plus you are not going to be overclocking these CPUs.
No need for anything fancy. Maybe a 90mm tower cooler will fit???

Now I remember, the stock heatsink and fans that came with the hexcore i7-990 would not fit, too big
The 212 I had were too big too.
These CPUs run cool even when OC to 4ghz. Stock server cooler is fine.
 
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Bill1024 said:
Yes those, I could not fit 2 side by side on that dual board.
I was thinking of cutting the side down but then I just went with the server type cooler
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Yeah, good point, in the proper orientation HDT coolers would be hitting each other. I'm just thinking if I manage to overclock it a bit then I'll have enough cooling to manage the heat. Some seemingly have gotten the turbo multis locked in with certain server boards, if I use SetFSB at 137mhz that would give around 3.3ghz.

My Noctua UH14S is very narrow, I don't think I'd have a problem mounting two of those with one fan on each (one on the front of one cooler and one on the rear of the other) as it easily clears normal profile ram.
 
Found that the Raijintek Ereboss from another machine fits perfectly without modification. It would be a tight fit for sure, but I think all of their coolers use the same mounting system so I may go with one of the smaller ones.





Comes very close to the ram, but it does not hit. Could probably run pretty much passive with two of these coolers.
 
Ended up grabbing a pair of Raijintek Aidos. They seem to compare with the 212 Evo, which should be plenty for stock.
 
Deimos said:
I think I have figured out the problem but I'm not sure exactly how to solve it yet.

I pulled the motherboard out and removed all my cable routing, re-installed the retention bracket minus the top plate to reduce flexing when the WB is installed, placed rubber washers on the WB retention bracket that goes on the back to ensure it wouldn't make contact with anything on the board, put the X5670 back in aaaaaaand.

It didn't work :mad:

So I thought fuck it, time to pull out the multimeter. a quick test and I find that all the voltages are normal except for the vcore which is 0.91v, seriously WTF? so the X5677 must be the only CPU I have that can POST with that voltage, IIRC my P6X58D runs this chip at 1.15v (or close to it) am I wrong here guys?

So what do I do with this motherboard? send it back? or should I chuck in the X5677 and boost the volts hoping it will stick when I change the CPU?

Anyone know a way of boosting the CPU volts without changing the bios?
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I'm getting this problem again, only this time the CPU hasn't been delidded. I decided to try and get my R3E working to give to my father in law, gave it to a friend to build and he got stuck, took it back, checked the vaolts and it's only getting .91v, exact same issue as before. I'm now wondering if I really did kill those other delidded CPUs now, otherwise would would I be having this issue again now for no apparent reason? Anyone got any ideas?
 
Deimos...Im a little confused of whats going on tbh..it sounds like you have 2 motherboards..the P6X58 and a RE3 and your trying to one working with x5677? the basic stuff like resetting the c-mos doesn't help at all? hell idk..pull out the rom chip and put it back? and you only have the one cpu to test with right?
 
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@primetime I just got the Asus p6t deluxe V1 and put the Xeon X5650 in it. When I tried to boot it I got no post. I have tried pretty much everything and I still get no post. All the fans and HDD spin up but no post. My theory is that the bios is not updated so I came here to see if my theory could be correct and if replacing the bios chip could work. I am also open to any tips to try to get it to post. Thank you for your help.
 
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Trey said:
I just got the Asus p6t deluxe V1 and put the Xeon X5650 in it. When I tried to boot it I got no post. I have tried pretty much everything and I still get no post. All the fans and HDD spin up but no post. My theory is that the bios is not updated so I came here to see if my theory could be correct and if replacing the bios chip could work. I am also open to any tips to try to get it to post. Thank you for your help.
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definitely could be out of date bios.
 
Trey said:
@primetime I just got the Asus p6t deluxe V1 and put the Xeon X5650 in it. When I tried to boot it I got no post. I have tried pretty much everything and I still get no post. All the fans and HDD spin up but no post. My theory is that the bios is not updated so I came here to see if my theory could be correct and if replacing the bios chip could work. I am also open to any tips to try to get it to post. Thank you for your help.
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probably the easiest thing would be ordering an updated bios chip off ebay..or you might find a dirt cheap 920 collecting dust....but yes that sounds like what it is
 
primetime said:
probably the easiest thing would be ordering an updated bios chip off ebay..or you might find a dirt cheap 920 collecting dust....but yes that sounds like what it is
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I am really glad it is probably the bios. This is my first PC build ever so I am a bit anxious to get it working. Thanks for your help.
 
yep...thats the one. pretty easy to replace as well...Just a small needle nose is what i used. Mine actually went bad after a botched flash long ago
 
Got my coolers installed. Fit pretty well, noticed one of the mounts was sitting on a cap so I had to use my dremel to cut it out a bit.





Also picked up 48gb of 1333 for $70.:)
 
You got a nice pair there :D Looks awesome man! I would seriously build that wind tunnel and just run one fan in the middle.
 
ChineseStunna said:
You got a nice pair there :D Looks awesome man! I would seriously build that wind tunnel and just run one fan in the middle.
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Thanks, I may give that a try depending on the noise at load. :)

Trey said:
Ok. Thank you. I really hope it is the bios and not a dead part. Just checking is this the right chip?http://www.ebay.com/itm/BIOS-CHIP-ASUS-P6T-DELUXE-/380311479690?hash=item588c54a58a:g:YCIAAMXQDnpTa0xQ
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I'd also recommend picking up a w3503 ($4) or w3520(same as 920, $10) for testing. I have a few laying around just for testing second hand boards before popping a six-core in to avoid potentially damaging a $50+ CPU, and both of those chips are 45nm so they should work with any bios.
 
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I would add a 3rd fan to that wind tunnel just to see what effect it has lol:D Looking badass so far
 
Testing the board now, all seems to work well. Strange thing on this board it pushes all cores on these x5670's to 3200mhz at full load while running p95 or Cinebench, so I'm quite happy about that. :D

Currently running single channel 2x2gb, got about 1430 in Cinebench, expecting 1500-1600 in tri-channel.
Max temps under load sits at around 58c with the bios set to "Whisper" mode, and it is very quiet, the hard drive I'm testing with is louder. I may have to set it higher when it's in a case, depending how airflow ends up.

The voltage regulators get too hot for comfort, I think I'll drop a few small heat sinks on them.
The chipset heatsink gets VERY hot without a fan, currently have a 120mm Noctua fan on there and it stays nice and cool, will probably end up with an 80mm fan once it's in a case.
 
Picked up a X5660, put it in a P6T Deluxe V2, latest bios 1202 or something. Working pretty good, one thing I can't get to work correctly is leaving the cpu at stock, but changing the RAM to 1600.

With the base clock of 133, and RAM set to 1600, the computer will not post. But I have taken the system up to 200bclk, set the RAM to 1600 and it posts and detects all the RAM fine.

I haven't really tried overclocking yet, just picked it up last weekend, but did a quick jump right to 4.2, booted, wasn't stable, will need more vcore for that. This weekend I should have a bit more time to monkey with it.
 
Dekar12 said:
Picked up a X5660, put it in a P6T Deluxe V2, latest bios 1202 or something. Working pretty good, one thing I can't get to work correctly is leaving the cpu at stock, but changing the RAM to 1600.

With the base clock of 133, and RAM set to 1600, the computer will not post. But I have taken the system up to 200bclk, set the RAM to 1600 and it posts and detects all the RAM fine.

I haven't really tried overclocking yet, just picked it up last weekend, but did a quick jump right to 4.2, booted, wasn't stable, will need more vcore for that. This weekend I should have a bit more time to monkey with it.
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This is an issue I've noticed with all the x56xx cpu's on the board's I've tried (asrock, asus, msi). The w36xx's and i7 counterparts don't seem to have that limitation.

To get 1600mhz ram, you'll need to bump up the bclk to at least 160mhz.
 
Ah ok. Makes sense, since at 200bclk it would set and work fine.

With my 920, it wasn't a problem to run stock and change memory speeds around like that.

When I get home I will post up some other things, but it appears that the temp sensors in these xeon's just do not work super correctly. I have 2 cores that read below ambient with idle and one core that just seems to have an extra 5c tacked on to it at all times. So, three core temps are funky and three of them seem to work more like the 920 as far as reading temps.
 
Dekar12 said:
Ah ok. Makes sense, since at 200bclk it would set and work fine.

With my 920, it wasn't a problem to run stock and change memory speeds around like that.

When I get home I will post up some other things, but it appears that the temp sensors in these xeon's just do not work super correctly. I have 2 cores that read below ambient with idle and one core that just seems to have an extra 5c tacked on to it at all times. So, three core temps are funky and three of them seem to work more like the 920 as far as reading temps.
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They are definitely hit or miss regarding idle temp accuracy. Load should be more accurate.
IHS evenness seems to be hit or miss as well, a few I had the load temps would be as much as 30c apart when overclocked.
 
Just picked up another B stepping x5670, got notified of a CPU in my ebay search within a certain price point. This is the second B stepping I'll have, the first is the one in my sig, which overclocks much better than all the A stepping CPU's I've had.
 
ChineseStunna said:
How do you tell B Batch?
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For example my CPU:
3124B618

It's the B. A bit more info here.

I've had 7 x5670's. 5 were A and all maxed out around 4.2 to 4.3ghz at 1.35v.
One was F and it maxed at 3.8ghz, 1.35v. 4ghz took 1.4v and temps went sky high.
One is B and is in my sig.

I have a w3670 that is a B stepping, but it gets quite a bit hotter than the x5670's. It might be better under water, I didn't push it too far as temps were unsafe at anything above 1.3v on my cooler.
 
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