dvsman
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If the price comes down - maybe. Plus depends on what Nvidia has out in SFF by that time as well. It's all about price / performance ratio I don't givafuq about brand loyalty.
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It has all sorts of coil whine issues due too poor quality chokes.
Isn't this poll just proving AMD was correct on the "profiling"?
Isn't this poll just proving AMD was correct on the "profiling"?
Yeap, HardOCP is just so performance orientated and damn the noise, heat, size, power etc. if it performs.
No real excitement about new options this will allow, performance ability, new cooling technology, Memory Tech etc. Most members I say just sprouted negative comments for something like this. Meaning it is not interesting for them is all. Which is fine and probably would be a waste of time for Kyle to review.
This is just a poll to let Nvidia fanboys reiterate their bias.
What it is good for is it helps identify the real hypocrites among those fanboys, they latch onto one issue and blow it out of proportion. Take for example coil whine, let's see what google tells us about that issue on the other side of the fence:
980ti from ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte, EVGA, Zotac and many more all exhibiting coil whine. This includes reference and custom cooled overclocked models.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6BulGUKhcU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkzQ1TFsgv8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSkybKzU880
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqewc_uX714
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqQ6giOtEfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqUE1K4f7kQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1w2QqoHDmw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yysqQffId0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgktDbNI6gA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8X_2EP9qOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvCiKkdBq-E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2K9XSyskUw
This one is particularly good. Guy ended up buying 10 yes 10 980s and all exhibited coil whine from EVGA/ASUS, had them watercooled which made the issue worse. He changed everything in his rig, new case, new psu etc and the new 980tis once again exhibited coil whine. This is not some old video either, this is from just a few weeks ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEeelqw8S6Y
So we can conclude from this that they are using poor quality chokes. Worst thing is that even the more expensive "military grade" or "high qualty" component cards exhibit coil whine. And that's just the first 2 pages of results and there are pages upon pages of more videos. I wonder where is the uproar about this issue? The answer to that question is one word, hypocrisy.
Its hardly hypocritical to worry about a real issue.
Are you saying it shouldnt be mentioned because it also occurs in other cards?
Its the same poll result you see on any forum, even AMD's own internal employee forum.
When even your own employees wouldn't touch your newest card, you may have missed the mark.
No, I think he is saying that most of the Nvidia trolls / fanboys pretend that Nvidia has no issues. Bias is still bias no matter where it is coming from. Besides, the only real reason most folks are not going to buy the Nano is price, nothing else.
No, I think he is saying that most of the Nvidia trolls / fanboys pretend that Nvidia has no issues. Bias is still bias no matter where it is coming from. Besides, the only real reason most folks are not going to buy the Nano is price, nothing else.
His post about hypocrisy was that itself.
Is building a video card that doesn't coil whine difficult? I don't understand why this is getting worse. Companies using cheaper parts or is the complexity increasing the chance of coil whine?
Coil whine on a SFF system is probably more important not to have.
Which is more of a niche?
- 4K for gaming?
- $1000 video cards
- Dual+ video cards?
- 3+ monitors for gaming?
- Combination of two above?
Well built SFF systems would probably out number all of the above, performance SFF systems is relatively new in the scheme of things. Meaning potential market.
Looking at cases I as yet found one that I would consider good for a SFF and a powerful system. Of course there are the miniITX cases that houses full size cards, ATX power supplies etc. except are they really SFF? lol
You should go tell those guys on the videos who spent just as much or even more money on trying to get their Nvidia coil whine resolved "That's bullshit"
It's perfectly fine not wanting to buy a brand, just don't pretend the negative issues you attribute to one side to justify your bias don't happen in your side. That's pretty much the definition of hypocrite.
I just don't see the market for these SFF systems. Are people really that space limited? I mean even a full tower doesn't take up that much space. The only thing I can see is portability, but I don't think many of us are moving our $1500+ systems around very often, and for those that do isn't a laptop more useful? Mainly for the built in screen.
They sure are cool though!
You should go tell those guys on the videos who spent just as much or even more money on trying to get their Nvidia coil whine resolved "That's bullshit"
It's perfectly fine not wanting to buy a brand, just don't pretend the negative issues you attribute to one side to justify your bias don't happen in your side. That's pretty much the definition of hypocrite.
I just don't see the market for these SFF systems. Are people really that space limited? I mean even a full tower doesn't take up that much space. The only thing I can see is portability, but I don't think many of us are moving our $1500+ systems around very often, and for those that do isn't a laptop more useful? Mainly for the built in screen.
They sure are cool though!
I just don't see the market for these SFF systems. Are people really that space limited? I mean even a full tower doesn't take up that much space. The only thing I can see is portability, but I don't think many of us are moving our $1500+ systems around very often, and for those that do isn't a laptop more useful? Mainly for the built in screen.
They sure are cool though!