AMD Fury series coming soon.

A pair of Fiji Nanos may be the golden ticket GPUs for moving away from my 780s while avoiding the botched 970s.


Nirad9er said:
So the 390x is basically a 980 for $120 cheaper. Lol I smell a 980 price drop as well.
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I highly doubt it. NVidia almost never drops pricing unless it is a result of their own newer products, regardless of how the competition is.
 
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caw2007 said:
I, for one, cannot understand why some of you seem to not get what the difference between GDDR5 and HBM is. AMD is using 4GB of HBM, not GDDR5. HBM is something like 9x faster than the fastest GDDR5. We now know the memory bus is 4096 bits, not 384 or 512 bit. This all means memory bandwidth out the a**.

I get that we don't yet have real benches, but it's not about 6GB vs 8GB vs 4GB vram anymore...
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That speed is all well and good, but if the memory is filled, you are going to need to fetch things from much slower system RAM.
 
pgaster said:
We know that AMD's lossless delta color compression, (Tonga), helps with memory bandwidth.
I assume Fiji has the same features, and I wonder if it helps with RAM usage also.
It just seems like AMD must have some new technology to help with the 4GB limitation, but I guess we will see when reviews are released.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8460/amd-radeon-r9-285-review/3
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For your information, Maxwell also uses a similar lossless compression technique. I am actually tired of hearing 4 GB of GDDR5 vs. 4G of HBM consumption should be different.

Looks like a bunch of noobs have overtaken the forums.
 
pgaster said:
We know that AMD's lossless delta color compression, (Tonga), helps with memory bandwidth.
I assume Fiji has the same features, and I wonder if it helps with RAM usage also.
It just seems like AMD must have some new technology to help with the 4GB limitation, but I guess we will see when reviews are released.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8460/amd-radeon-r9-285-review/3
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it only helps with bandwidth it has nothing to do with Vram. There are other compression techniques for buffers that help with vram consumption, and there is texture compression.
 
I'm just hoping these new AMD cards will create a price drop for the 980. I need a balance of performance & power usage. It doesn't seem like AMD will deliver on the power usage side.
 
Surprise surprise, just like I said, they didn't reveal anything about Fury X that we didn't already know. AMD is so predictable.
 
So guys. I'm at work. In summing it up，were there any released performance numbers for Fury. Or are they coming in a couple of weeks.
 
Darakian said:
New videos up on AMDs youtube page.
https://www.youtube.com/user/amd/videos
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straight nvidian here, i watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLLxFNkwgas and im intrigued, he says "panel" instead of display, and envisioning itx as an ultimate gaming platform (which i use for the last 5 years..). i liked the language used and their vision, which bring me to create this post here

Lorien said:
Oh what's this? :D
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that would fit inside an SG05, dual GPU shoebox sized itx gaming toy? holy fuck dude.

i still didnt got the 980ti (still using the 970), for using it i will have to mod/cut my beloved five year old SG05 or get a new case, both things that i dont want to do but o well, if it comes to it.. anyway duh, the point of all this: i am now for the firt time considering ati, i'll be keeping an eye on it before making a decision. ;)
 
Yakk said:
Bingo! HBM is a HUGE leap over DDR5!

We could have 32GB of DDR3 instead of 4 GB of DDR5. Not sure anyone would willingly choose that Huge 32 GB DDR3 over 4GB of DDR5.

Similar situation is happening for HBM over DDR5.
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No, not bingo. If the card runs out of RAM then the speed of said RAM doesn't matter as that's not where the data is being retrieved from. However, it is true that we can't judge this until cards are in independent hands and have gone through proper testing.

Who know's. AMD might have some solid solutions and even if they don't 4gb might not be as limiting as some think it is. Presumably they aren't going to flaunt a cards virtues at 4k and then deliver something that is unusable at high settings in demanding games.
Anyway time will tell, Our good friends at HardOCP will do all the relevant testing to ensure we are informed just as soon as they can.

also:
LordEC911 said:
VRAM Utilization |= VRAM Requirements
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5150Joker said:
Surprise surprise, just like I said, they didn't reveal anything about Fury X that we didn't already know. AMD is so predictable.
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You knew Fury X uses 275w, stays at 50C and was priced at $649?
You knew Fury Nano was an aircooler ~6in card that uses 125-150w and has better performance than the 290x?

Nice try. Go back to Snobsdale.
 
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You can stare at Vram utilization all day, but unless it has an impact on performance (not enough vram = single digits) then it doesn't matter if one card uses 4GB and the other 6GB.
 
You knew
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Nope, most recent leaks put the Fury X @ 300W TDP (Fiji Pro @ 275W) and $850-$900.
Was not expecting the Fury Nano to be a GTX 980+ competitor.

Soooooooo many wrong leaks. But not all of them wrong.
 
LordEC911 said:
Fiji Nano will.
~GTX980 performance at ~125-150w from a ~6in card.



Not really. Nothing is stopping them from being able to do that.
It just isn't needed at this point in time.
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AMD would have been happy to add 8GB. It's pure BS that you say they didn't need it.

If they could they would have added 8GB. But there was no way they were able to achieve it without a die shrink.
 
Brent_Justice said:
I am reminded ATI had a Fury before, the ATI Rage Fury Pro
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They had a whole line, the Rage Fury 128, the Rage Fury Pro, The Rage Fury MAXX (Dual GPU) ... and probably more.. The FURY was the last Rage GPU, prior to the radeon series.
 
I still do not understand how that tiny little single-fan heatsink can properly cool the Nano.
It has to be a sub-150W part.

I guess pretty similar to the ITX GTX 970's out there.

If they could they would have added 8GB. But there was no way they were able to achieve it without a die shrink.
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Die has nothing to do with it, the modules are stacked.
 
Hooy said:
At the beginning of the stream, Lisa Su also said that the Fury X was running Tomb Raider at 60 fps at 4k. The Titan X averages 40 fps in that game. That's about the best we have in terms of performance #$'s right now.
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It was running at 5k, not 4k.

5120x2880 I think.
 
madgun said:
AMD would have been happy to add 8GB. It's pure BS that you say they didn't need it.

If they could they would have added 8GB. But there was no way they were able to achieve it without a die shrink.
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Then people really would be bitching about wasted bandwidth.
No, they got the bandwidth they needed at the minimum amount of VRAM capacity needed to meet their performance goals.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Nope, most recent leaks put the Fury X @ 300W TDP (Fiji Pro @ 275W) and $850-$900.
Was not expecting the Fury Nano to be a GTX 980+ competitor.

Soooooooo many wrong leaks. But not all of them wrong.
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No one expected Fury X to be 850-900 after ti was released. The rumor is that's what they WANTED to release the Fury X at, but Nvidia put a stop to that.

I think most of the leaks were fairly accurate, only thing that was off was pricing. Specs we knew 7 months ago, rumors of a dual GPU and water-cooled edition were out early in the year. So far most of the performance leaks are starting to be fairly accurate.
 
Not that anyone would know how these cards will perform in Crossfire, but generally speaking, how is AMD's Crossfire scaling these days?
 
LordEC911 said:
Fiji Nano will.
~GTX980 performance at ~125-150w from a ~6in card.
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Thanks for the heads up. This new naming scheme is confusing but I'll probably get easier once reviews are out.

If those specs you mentioned are true, this is big news for SSF. With my Ncase M1, I could throw in a full size PSU, and hopefully everything would be very quiet.
 
Boggins said:
Not that anyone would know how these cards will perform in Crossfire, but generally speaking, how is AMD's Crossfire scaling these days?
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Excellent in games that it works. Not sure on how many titles haven't received crossfire support in a timely manner recently, though.
 
Hanakuso said:
If those specs you mentioned are true, this is big news for SSF. With my Ncase M1, I could throw in a full size PSU, and hopefully everything would be very quiet.
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Exactly what I was thinking
 
Here's what it looks like under the shroud.
I took this render from their youtube video.

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Looks like a giant copper pipe?! da fuq.
 
I'm guessing it's using a full cover plate attached to the copper pipe, which itself goes directly over the VRM's.
Goddamn AMD. 10/10 I didn't even think that was possible.

...Or no plate, GDDR5 doesn't exist anymore. O_O
 
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