New Samsung 4k for everyone.

[bulbrook]

Having a weird issue on the 9000. When I boot up using hdmi I don't see the bios post screen. Eventually windows kicks in and my login screen shows up. Is there a setting in the bios that needs fixing?

FYI I have the oculus dev kit 2 and the 48" 9000 is the closest feeling to that immersion of any display I have ever used. (Without the screendoor effect). As far as I can tell the only downside of this screen is that it is expensive. Oh and gsync would be nice.

If you don't have the cash for the 9000 the 40" and lower lines would still be awesome. The curve Is just so dang sexy for computer hardware.

 

[Lateralus]

FYI I have the oculus dev kit 2 and the 48" 9000 is the closest feeling to that immersion of any display I have ever used. (Without the screendoor effect). As far as I can tell the only downside of this screen is that it is expensive. Oh and gsync would be nice.

If you don't have the cash for the 9000 the 40" and lower lines would still be awesome. The curve Is just so dang sexy for computer hardware.

Agreed. I am just in awe of the colors and image quality on the JS9000. You're right, it wasn't cheap, but the results are absolutely worth it. G-Sync would be nice to have, but this is the pinnacle of large 4K displays as far as I'm concerned. Just incredible. I have found nirvana.

And if you don't like or care about the curve, the JS8500 is several hundred dollars cheaper for the same image quality. An outstanding value.

It's hard to imagine Samsung or anyone else topping these. Hopefully these aren't just a one-off and the trend continues into next year and upcoming lines. Otherwise I'm going to have to hoard a stash of JS9000s to last me for the next several decades.

 

[greyx]

@imyourzero, JS9000 is the same as JS8500, only curved vs flat ?
Else, same specs, same image quality, same colors, etc ?

 

[Lateralus]

Yep. This may be what you and zero101 are looking for. I know that one of you was underwhelmed with the colors on the Philips 40" and you were both asking about color and saturation on the Samsungs. The 6xxx and 7xxx are great looking displays, but the JS series raises the bar a notch (or several notches).

The 7500 is great, but a bit harder to recommend now with the JS8500 pricing where it is. I have a feeling that these huge discounts on the JS series may only be temporary.

 

[Nenu]

I also get the feeling that some TVs are not working correctly.
The photo of the PWM banding and the user being able to see it suggest that TV at least has a problem.

Having a weird issue on the 9000. When I boot up using hdmi I don't see the bios post screen. Eventually windows kicks in and my login screen shows up. Is there a setting in the bios that needs fixing?

FYI I have the oculus dev kit 2 and the 48" 9000 is the closest feeling to that immersion of any display I have ever used. (Without the screendoor effect). As far as I can tell the only downside of this screen is that it is expensive. Oh and gsync would be nice.

If you don't have the cash for the 9000 the 40" and lower lines would still be awesome. The curve Is just so dang sexy for computer hardware.

This is down to the gfx card.
I use 3 gfx ports from my PC and most of the time I can get 2 of them to display the POST, the 3rd wont. Normally HDMI out will always display it.
But it changes that as well, depending what is plugged in. I have had HDMI not display POST and the display that doesnt display it will if it is the only port used.
I had the same kind of thing with a 290x and with my 980, slightly different but similar.

Mess about with how your display(s) are connected to the gfx card.


Either that or the Samsung isnt fast enough putting the display up before the POST finishes.
But POST these days are pretty long so I doubt that is the issue.

 

[vorpel]

Having a weird issue on the 9000. When I boot up using hdmi I don't see the bios post screen. Eventually windows kicks in and my login screen shows up. Is there a setting in the bios that needs fixing?

FYI I have the oculus dev kit 2 and the 48" 9000 is the closest feeling to that immersion of any display I have ever used. (Without the screendoor effect). As far as I can tell the only downside of this screen is that it is expensive. Oh and gsync would be nice.

If you don't have the cash for the 9000 the 40" and lower lines would still be awesome. The curve Is just so dang sexy for computer hardware.

On my JS9000 I have a similar issue - though sometimes I do see all or part of POST.

Not a big deal as I will always keep a 20" or so monitor around for whatever is needed.

 

[vorpel]

Somebody asked a few posts ago about any use besides as a monitor for the JS9000. My wife and I have been watching Daredevil on Netflix in 4k. WOW! The detail is just so captivating. There are times that it gets pixelated, but I know that is a function of the bitrate and not the display.

I have compared the 6700 and the 9000 with Netflix - each watching the exact same 4k episode at the same time (might have been 100ms off or so). All picture settings were identical. I did find that I needed to take the backlight down to 10 on the JS9000 vs 12 on the 6700.

The black level and detail in dark areas was definitely better on the 9000. The colors on both were superb. For a while the 6700 looked better with flesh tones until the character Ben Urich (Vondie Curtis-Hall) came on the screen. The mans face is pure eye candy at 4k - so much texture and detail. With his flesh tone (he is a black gentleman) I did see that the 6700 had a red bias that looked better on caucasians, but after comparing didn't feel quite as natural. That being said, I've been watching a lot of Netflix 4k material (Breaking Bad, Sense8) on the 6700 and it is every bit as enjoyable as on the 9000. The only time you will see any difference is if you are looking for it.

I don't have any gaming consoles, so I can't give feedback on that.

I hope this helps.

While I love the JS9000, the value that I'm getting from the 40" 6700's is just outstanding.

P. S. I just thought about this - running all 3 displays (6700, 9000, 6700) at the same time in Windows - the experience is smooth viewing from one to the other. What I mean with this is that when I had some Dell flat panel monitors on the side of the 6700, it was like going from a plush fancy feast (6700) to something just a step above fast food on the Dells (I tried U2414h, S2415h, u3011). You can't go wrong with any of the Samsungs - they are just so much more pleasing than anything else I have tried.

If you are looking for a niche' display like a 144Hz, G-Sync, lowest possible lag, etc, it is isn't for you. For everyone else - it is!

 

[supermi]

I didn't mean to provoke a defensive response. Rather than add any additional confusion to the discussion, I'll just return to the shadows and enjoy my new display.

I would like to thank all of you again for your perspectives and guidance. I'm quite pleased with my purchase, and hope others are as well - in whatever source, mode, or game you choose.

Keep posting and joining in the thread, you have every right to do so! I wanted to make my points clear so that another "lag attack debate" did not start ... I felt you may be starting it but also that others might jump in and wanted to stop that from happening.

People are full of confusion it is part of the discussion... hehehe

Cheers

 

[supermi]

Somebody asked a few posts ago about any use besides as a monitor for the JS9000. My wife and I have been watching Daredevil on Netflix in 4k. WOW! The detail is just so captivating. There are times that it gets pixelated, but I know that is a function of the bitrate and not the display.

I have compared the 6700 and the 9000 with Netflix - each watching the exact same 4k episode at the same time (might have been 100ms off or so). All picture settings were identical. I did find that I needed to take the backlight down to 10 on the JS9000 vs 12 on the 6700.

The black level and detail in dark areas was definitely better on the 9000. The colors on both were superb. For a while the 6700 looked better with flesh tones until the character Ben Urich (Vondie Curtis-Hall) came on the screen. The mans face is pure eye candy at 4k - so much texture and detail. With his flesh tone (he is a black gentleman) I did see that the 6700 had a red bias that looked better on caucasians, but after comparing didn't feel quite as natural. That being said, I've been watching a lot of Netflix 4k material (Breaking Bad, Sense8) on the 6700 and it is every bit as enjoyable as on the 9000. The only time you will see any difference is if you are looking for it.

I don't have any gaming consoles, so I can't give feedback on that.

I hope this helps.

While I love the JS9000, the value that I'm getting from the 40" 6700's is just outstanding.

P. S. I just thought about this - running all 3 displays (6700, 9000, 6700) at the same time in Windows - the experience is smooth viewing from one to the other. What I mean with this is that when I had some Dell flat panel monitors on the side of the 6700, it was like going from a plush fancy feast (6700) to something just a step above fast food on the Dells (I tried U2414h, S2415h, u3011). You can't go wrong with any of the Samsungs - they are just so much more pleasing than anything else I have tried.

If you are looking for a niche' display like a 144Hz, G-Sync, lowest possible lag, etc, it is isn't for you. For everyone else - it is!

I think this post PERFECTLY captures the point that the differences in picture quality between the JU7500 or in this case even the 6700 and the JS9000 are going mean everything to some and be either way for others!

For pure picture quality you can not really go wrong with any of those displays! In fact part of my choice on the 9000 is the possibility of hardware upgrades in the future.

I love the JU7500 40 inch and probably would have LOVED the 48 inch as well had I not gone to the 9000

Heck a friend of mine just returned his JS9000 65 inch and got a Sharp 70 inch for $1500 saved like $1700 and gained a few inches and says that the difference in PQ between the 2 is not nearly as far apart as the price. He is keeping the Sharp!

For others the Samsung for $1700 more would be well worth it , heck my 48 inch JS9000 cost $500 more than his 70 inch tv

the best thing you can do is try a set or 2 out either at home or in a store and get some sense of them!

Cheers to all you fellow samsung peeps!

 

[SixFootDuo]

I would be surprised if I saw 4k from your local cable company within the next 2 years.

 

[supermi]

I would be surprised if I saw 4k from your local cable company within the next 2 years.

cable whats that?

 

[SlippinJimmy]

Now that the 40" ju6500 is cheaper, I'm considering returning the 50. It's a little taller than I'd like and I need a stand for my keyboard and mouse which makes it a pain to get to my printer or remove cables. Do you think that the higher ppi of the 40 makes a big difference? I'm thinking of resale value too for when 120hz monitors are released. Not sure if many people would buy a 40" TV for more than $200.

 

[munkle]

I would be surprised if I saw 4k from your local cable company within the next 2 years.

They don't even do 1080p now, don't see 4k coming any time soon.

 

[greyx]

As a pc monitor, do i see the difference between 900 Hz and 1300 Hz ?
I ask that because i don't know if is worth 300 euro more for the JS7000 vs 6500 for example
Black level / contrast / colors and sharpness, i guess they are nearly the same

 

[vorpel]

Now that the 40" ju6500 is cheaper, I'm considering returning the 50. It's a little taller than I'd like and I need a stand for my keyboard and mouse which makes it a pain to get to my printer or remove cables. Do you think that the higher ppi of the 40 makes a big difference? I'm thinking of resale value too for when 120hz monitors are released. Not sure if many people would buy a 40" TV for more than $200.

If you compare the 50" vs 40" with the same font scaling you WILL notice a pretty big difference. With a 40" alongside my 48" I would want font scaling on or move closer to the 40". I can take a picture tonight of a window with text spanning the 40/48.

 

[Cyph]

Now that the 40" ju6500 is cheaper, I'm considering returning the 50. It's a little taller than I'd like and I need a stand for my keyboard and mouse which makes it a pain to get to my printer or remove cables. Do you think that the higher ppi of the 40 makes a big difference? I'm thinking of resale value too for when 120hz monitors are released. Not sure if many people would buy a 40" TV for more than $200.

Don't buy these looking for resale value later on. Technology moves too fast and you'll end up disappointed. Also, purchase it for a size that's comfortable to you rather than for the DPI.

As a pc monitor, do i see the difference between 900 Hz and 1300 Hz ?
I ask that because i don't know if is worth 300 euro more for the JS7000 vs 6500 for example
Black level / contrast / colors and sharpness, i guess they are nearly the same

There's no monitor that refreshes that high unless you're referring to the fake refresh that's advertised. If 300 euro is a lot of money to you, just purchase the cheaper version. Don't over analyze things. I buy what I can afford and that's it. If it weren't for the fact that I plan to reuse my display as a bedroom TV later on, I'd opt for and keep the 6500.

 

[Zarathustra[H]]

I would be surprised if I saw 4k from your local cable company within the next 2 years.

Or maybe ever? They might just go away all together, or move to some sort of IP TV arrangement before they go 4k.

Classic linerar TV programming, on cable or through any other means is a dying breed.

They are not going to go easily. There will be a lot of kicking and screaming, but the end result is inevitable. They don't provide what users want. Their industry is doomed.

 

[Cyph]

Or maybe ever? They might just go away all together, or move to some sort of IP TV arrangement before they go 4k.

Classic linerar TV programming, on cable or through any other means is a dying breed.

They are not going to go easily. There will be a lot of kicking and screaming, but the end result is inevitable. They don't provide what users want. Their industry is doomed.

IP TV and 4K is unrelated. You can do 4K on IPTV or over the air. I've actually cut the cord completely for 2 years now. Over the air for NFL and other sports. MLB.TV for baseball and a little DNS magic so I can override local blackouts. Netflix and Plex (hence the need for Samsung) for movies and TV shows. It's a beautiful thing and I save at least 1200 a year on Cable subscription fees.

 

[Zarathustra[H]]

IP TV and 4K is unrelated. You can do 4K on IPTV or over the air. I've actually cut the cord completely for 2 years now. Over the air for NFL and other sports. MLB.TV for baseball and a little DNS magic so I can override local blackouts. Netflix and Plex (hence the need for Samsung) for movies and TV shows. It's a beautiful thing and I save at least 1200 a year on Cable subscription fees.

I know they are unrelated. Simply saying that local cable companies may switch their business model to IP based services before they take on 4k.

4k is really a niche market right now. Most people don't see the need for it.

Heck, I don't even see the need for it for movies/TV. At normal viewing distances I doubt I could even tell the difference.

I have a 60" Panny plasma which I am happy with for now for my TV viewing habits.

For computers on the other hand, I am more than ready for 4k. You sit much closer to the screen on a computer, making it much more worth it.

 

[Cyph]

I know they are unrelated. Simply saying that local cable companies may switch their business model to IP based services before they take on 4k.

4k is really a niche market right now. Most people don't see the need for it.

Heck, I don't even see the need for it for movies/TV. At normal viewing distances I doubt I could even tell the difference.

I have a 60" Panny plasma which I am happy with for now for my TV viewing habits.

For computers on the other hand, I am more than ready for 4k. You sit much closer to the screen on a computer, making it much more worth it.

Most movies are just 35mm film being transferred to 4K. 35mm are grainy. The difference is not huge. However, the true 4K movies as seen on Youtube, have DSLR pictures in high-res, combined into a motion picture at 24 frames. See "Cave of Wonders 4K," and you will see the power of 4K movies if done right. However, I agree with you that most 4K movies nowadays are just 35mm film scaled to 4K. Not worth the trouble.

However, I believe more and more movies will be done using the RED Digital Camera such as DareDevil and House of Cards. They look great in 4K if done right.

Having said that, I have a F8500 Samsung Plasma and even though it's only 1080P, I'll probably be using it for another 10 years or until 4K becomes the norm. It's that good.

 

[Zarathustra[H]]

Most movies are just 35mm film being transferred to 4K. 35mm are grainy. The difference is not huge. However, the true 4K movies as seen on Youtube, have DSLR pictures in high-res, combined into a motion picture at 24 frames. See "Cave of Wonders 4K," and you will see the power of 4K movies if done right. However, I agree with you that most 4K movies nowadays are just 35mm film scaled to 4K. Not worth the trouble.

However, I believe more and more movies will be done using the RED Digital Camera such as DareDevil and House of Cards. They look great in 4K if done right.

Having said that, I have a F8500 Samsung Plasma and even though it's only 1080P, I'll probably be using it for another 10 years or until 4K becomes the norm. It's that good.

I recently moved to a different house with a smaller living room.

I now sit ~8 ft from my 60" Panny Plasma (forget the model number)

I know different people have different expectations, but at that range it feels on the large side to me, but then again, I'm coming from a childhood of growing up with no larger than 28" CRT's

My point is, at 8ft away, which feels close for casual viewing on a 60" screen to me (after all, I'm not in a movie theater, it's my living room) I doubt I could see the difference between 1080p and higher resolutions, even if those higher resolutions are properly recorded, and not just film scans. The pixel pitch is just too small. I can't make out individual pixels at that range.

This is why I think 4k is more of a marketing thing rather than an actual benefit for TV/Movie viewing right now, but t has much better applications on the computer.

Who knows though, maybe my eyes are just bad

I liken it to the megapixel race for cameras. Unless you are going to do a lot of cropping or blowing thins up on billboards, no one really needs a camera with more than 4 or 5 MP. The optics are more important. But because of shallow marketing and poor understanding by consumers, bigger numbers are better, and thus the race is on, and we wind up with ever larger and less convenient file sizes we don't need.

On my computer - however - I can't wait to play Red Orchestra 2 at 4k 2 ft away from a curved 40"

 

[greyx]

Don't buy these looking for resale value later on. Technology moves too fast and you'll end up disappointed. Also, purchase it for a size that's comfortable to you rather than for the DPI.



There's no monitor that refreshes that high unless you're referring to the fake refresh that's advertised. If 300 euro is a lot of money to you, just purchase the cheaper version. Don't over analyze things. I buy what I can afford and that's it. If it weren't for the fact that I plan to reuse my display as a bedroom TV later on, I'd opt for and keep the 6500.

yes, you're right, but if the 7xxx had a noticeable better pq, i'd pay more, that's what I mean

 

[bulbrook]

Did some hdmi troubleshooting last night. Was worried my windows 10 preview was the issue, or a bad video card. Turns out no. I reinstalled windows 8.1 (painful) and tested. Still same post issues, swapped out video cards, updated drivers and settings. Played around with my Dell on both DVI and its hdmi inputs.

Turns out the hdmi 1 input on the 9000 is maybe a little buggy with nvidia gtx 980 (tried several different high speed hdmi cables). When I swapped input it to hdmi 2 (dvi) input on the 9000 the post boot worked, and everything was flawless EXCEPT chroma 4:4:4 option in nvidia control panel disappears and text is fuzzy. This is with PC input on the 9000, also tried the DVI setting on 9000 with hdmi 2 input no go. I think this is a DVI limitation on the input, as that input on 9000 is designed for using a dvi-hdmi converter on your computer.

So I guess tonight I will try hdmi 3 and 4, and call Samsung to see if they have a thought. I am worried the other inputs may introduce lag as they do on my other tvs, or maybe the game mode is input independent.

One other bug I noticed in my tri-sli setup Vsync option can lock up the computer on windows 10, will try in 8.1 tonight. oh the fun of being on the front of the tech curve!

 

[Nenu]

The DVI port is HDMI 1.x compliant, not HDMI 2.0.

It might be worth giving the mfr of the card an email.
I would insist that HDMI 2.0 displays POST when it is the only HDMI 2.0 output.
My 980 always posts on the HDMI 2.0 out, but I dont have an HDMI 2.0 display yet, so not quite the same.

 

[Cyph]

yes, you're right, but if the 7xxx had a noticeable better pq, i'd pay more, that's what I mean

Noticeable to who? You or me? I saw the differences immediately, but others didn't think it was that big a difference. So there you have it.

Did some hdmi troubleshooting last night. Was worried my windows 10 preview was the issue, or a bad video card. Turns out no. I reinstalled windows 8.1 (painful) and tested. Still same post issues, swapped out video cards, updated drivers and settings. Played around with my Dell on both DVI and its hdmi inputs.

Turns out the hdmi 1 input on the 9000 is maybe a little buggy with nvidia gtx 980 (tried several different high speed hdmi cables). When I swapped input it to hdmi 2 (dvi) input on the 9000 the post boot worked, and everything was flawless EXCEPT chroma 4:4:4 option in nvidia control panel disappears and text is fuzzy. This is with PC input on the 9000, also tried the DVI setting on 9000 with hdmi 2 input no go. I think this is a DVI limitation on the input, as that input on 9000 is designed for using a dvi-hdmi converter on your computer.

So I guess tonight I will try hdmi 3 and 4, and call Samsung to see if they have a thought. I am worried the other inputs may introduce lag as they do on my other tvs, or maybe the game mode is input independent.

One other bug I noticed in my tri-sli setup Vsync option can lock up the computer on windows 10, will try in 8.1 tonight. oh the fun of being on the front of the tech curve!

I don't see a POST on mine either on first boot up. It may be due to a handshake problem. It doesn't really bother me, as I can get to BIOS by hitting the right keys. Alternative is to change to full POST instead of quick POST.

 

[Zarathustra[H]]

I just wish there were a version of these without speakers or any of that smart-TV nonsense.

I don't like paying for things I'll never use

 

[Zarathustra[H]]

Having said that, I have a F8500 Samsung Plasma and even though it's only 1080P, I'll probably be using it for another 10 years or until 4K becomes the norm. It's that good.

Ditto.

I'm keeping my plasma, probably until I can get a decent 60"-65" OLED TV for under $1,000

I'm not willing to let go of those blacks quite yet!

 

[Lateralus]

Turns out the hdmi 1 input on the 9000 is maybe a little buggy with nvidia gtx 980 (tried several different high speed hdmi cables). When I swapped input it to hdmi 2 (dvi) input on the 9000 the post boot worked, and everything was flawless EXCEPT chroma 4:4:4 option in nvidia control panel disappears and text is fuzzy. This is with PC input on the 9000, also tried the DVI setting on 9000 with hdmi 2 input no go. I think this is a DVI limitation on the input, as that input on 9000 is designed for using a dvi-hdmi converter on your computer.

So I guess tonight I will try hdmi 3 and 4, and call Samsung to see if they have a thought. I am worried the other inputs may introduce lag as they do on my other tvs, or maybe the game mode is input independent.

Hmm. I am using HDMI 2 and noticed that option disappearing in the NVCP as well, but my text seems as sharp as ever. You noticed a difference in text quality between HDMI inputs 1 and 2? I'm at work but your post has me curious if there are in fact functional differences between the inputs.

 

[greyx]

So, Cyph, what do you have? plasma or led?
lol

 

[Cyph]

Ditto.

I'm keeping my plasma, probably until I can get a decent 60"-65" OLED TV for under $1,000

I'm not willing to let go of those blacks quite yet!

The blacks on the 7100 is almost as good as the Plasma. Don't know what sorcery Samsung is using.

So, Cyph, what do you have? plasma or led?
lol

 

[vorpel]

I recently moved to a different house with a smaller living room.

I now sit ~8 ft from my 60" Panny Plasma (forget the model number)

I know different people have different expectations, but at that range it feels on the large side to me, but then again, I'm coming from a childhood of growing up with no larger than 28" CRT's

My point is, at 8ft away, which feels close for casual viewing on a 60" screen to me (after all, I'm not in a movie theater, it's my living room) I doubt I could see the difference between 1080p and higher resolutions, even if those higher resolutions are properly recorded, and not just film scans. The pixel pitch is just too small. I can't make out individual pixels at that range.

This is why I think 4k is more of a marketing thing rather than an actual benefit for TV/Movie viewing right now, but t has much better applications on the computer.

Who knows though, maybe my eyes are just bad

I liken it to the megapixel race for cameras. Unless you are going to do a lot of cropping or blowing thins up on billboards, no one really needs a camera with more than 4 or 5 MP. The optics are more important. But because of shallow marketing and poor understanding by consumers, bigger numbers are better, and thus the race is on, and we wind up with ever larger and less convenient file sizes we don't need.

On my computer - however - I can't wait to play Red Orchestra 2 at 4k 2 ft away from a curved 40"

Everybody's viewing will be different, but pixel size is not the sum total of the viewing experience. My wife and I went from a 65" Panasonic plasma 1080p to a 65" Toshiba 4k TV and we noticed that there was more depth to the content. The higher bitrate 1080p source we used the better the image. The difference was very noticeable - even family members have seen the difference. This is from 12-14' away.

Some will dismiss this out of hand citing some website or another "proving" that the human eye can't possibly see the difference. , or other "knowledgeable" source. You can almost always guarantee than most of the people saying this have never actually tried it themselves. Heck, we have seen that time and again in this thread where - just read back. The only reason we kept the Toshiba 4k is that our viewing experience got better.

As this most things, if you are really interested to see if there is a difference, give it a try. If it doesn't look better to you then it doesn't. Otherwise you can be like my nephew who declared to me the other day that 4k is just a bunch of shit cause his buddy told him so... sigh.

 

[Lateralus]

Some will dismiss this out of hand citing some website or another "proving" that the human eye can't possibly see the difference. , or other "knowledgeable" source. You can almost always guarantee than most of the people saying this have never actually tried it themselves. Heck, we have seen that time and again in this thread where - just read back. The only reason we kept the Toshiba 4k is that our viewing experience got better.

As this most things, if you are really interested to see if there is a difference, give it a try. If it doesn't look better to you then it doesn't. Otherwise you can be like my nephew who declared to me the other day that 4k is just a bunch of shit cause his buddy told him so... sigh.

There are a bunch of people over in the Acer XR341CK thread saying that 4K is "so last year" and that gaming on these large Samsungs is dumb and pointless, disregarding any claims of increased immersion and the benefits of high resolution for desktop productivity. According to them, 60Hz is crap and can't possibly provide an enjoyable gaming experience.

Oh well, haters gonna hate.

 

[vorpel]

Oh well, haters gonna hate.

So true.

In the end I'm extremely happy with my purchases. I hope to not look at another monitor/TV for computer use for at least 3 years.

My next decision is whether to upgrade to the 980 TI or see what AMD has at the end of the month, etc. Have a 980 right now and it does great in Diablo 3, but I want to load up Witcher and I know that is going to be tought with just the 980.

 

[Cyph]

There are a bunch of people over in the Acer XR341CK thread saying that 4K is "so last year" and that gaming on these large Samsungs is dumb and pointless, disregarding any claims of increased immersion and the benefits of high resolution for desktop productivity. According to them, 60Hz is crap and can't possibly provide an enjoyable gaming experience.

Oh well, haters gonna hate.

Probably it's the same folks who claim that 60hz and below is a blur and unusable. Yet they have no problem going to the theater to watch 24fps films, then hate on high frame rate movies saying they can't stand the soap opera effect. 15 years ago, achieving 30 frames was considered "smooth" and "playable." Now, all of a sudden, 60hz is a blurry mess. Whatever.

I'm sure if you sit any of them down in front of a 40" 4K to play a game, they won't be able to go back to 1080P. It's like moving to Retina Ipad from Ipad 1. Of course, 4k on 24-27" is probably pointless so I'm not surprised they're disappointed if that was their experience on 4K.

I originally planned to purchase the display for desktop work only and play games in 1080P. Now that I've seen the difference between 4K and 1080P gaming, I'm looking to upgrade to the 980Ti. It's a pretty stark difference. I didn't know what I was missing until I saw it.

 

[vorpel]

I do have a question for everyone that are NOT using the stock stands - what are you using? I tried this and it works great for my 48" JS9000, but when I tried the same stand on the 40" 6700 I couldn't get it to line up (height) with the JS9000.

Additionally I'd love to be able to mount some speakers above my 40" 6700's so I can keep my monitor shelf as low as possible. I did go with the curved Samsung soundbar for the JS9000 and love it, but I do have 2 other sets of speakers that I want to setup (2nd computer and receiver/3rd computer). Any help on that would be appreciated.

Thanks!

 

[Mr. Neverbicker]

With that stand, how low can you get the bottom of the monitor to the desktop?

 

[Cyph]

So true.

In the end I'm extremely happy with my purchases. I hope to not look at another monitor/TV for computer use for at least 3 years.

My next decision is whether to upgrade to the 980 TI or see what AMD has at the end of the month, etc. Have a 980 right now and it does great in Diablo 3, but I want to load up Witcher and I know that is going to be tought with just the 980.

Witcher 3 was designed to be playable at 30FPS. With VSYNC on, it's smooth with any frame rate between 30-60. The Witcher 3 is a unique game in that the trees and grass is GPU intensive. Most games won't be as GPU intensive as the Witcher 3. The 980Ti will play most games at 60FPS at mixed Ultra/High settings other than the Witcher 3 which is two years ahead of its time.

 

[greyx]

Guys, please help me, maybe a bit offtopic
Tomorrow i want to go to some local store, to check Samsung 7100 / and another Samsung 64xx
The problem is, my laptop is about 3 years old, the onboard video is Intel 4000 ( HDMI ) so i guess i won't be able to test it at 3840x2160, but that's not a problem
All i want is to see how the image is, the colors, and so on
Is that ok if i use a smaller resolution than 3840 x 2160, to get an idea about the iq ?
Thank you

 

[Killahurtz]

the first day I was on HDMI 1 and didn't like the look or functionality at all on my PC...the second day I moved over to HDMI 2 and chose the "PC" setting and POW in your face clarity and higher refresh rate. For Project Cars , Assetto Corsa , and Wreckfest I am pulling 110 fps on average with everything maxed , and it performs amazing and looks lights out amazing. I sold my Dell U3415 to the wife for one of her machines and was more than a little let down by the HDMI 1 look and 24 or 30 refresh rate. Sitting 3 feet away and can't see the first pixel...they are smaller than a gnats azz , no dead pixels , the stand is quite robust.

The naysayers can have their opinion , I have no issues with driving new tech and thoroughly pleased with the setup.

Now I need to figure out a plan to put the tools to this desk to get my center channel back in play!...hahahaha

 

[Nenu]

Guys, please help me, maybe a bit offtopic
Tomorrow i want to go to some local store, to check Samsung 7100 / and another Samsung 64xx
The problem is, my laptop is about 3 years old, the onboard video is Intel 4000 ( HDMI ) so i guess i won't be able to test it at 3840x2160, but that's not a problem
All i want is to see how the image is, the colors, and so on
Is that ok if i use a smaller resolution than 3840 x 2160, to get an idea about the iq ?
Thank you

Not Windows text at full res.
You need to use 3840x2160 4:4:4 to see it at its best.
You have the bandwidth to do 4K 4:2:0 but I dont know if Intel allow this mode.
4:2:0 will look like colours bleeding.

For video you can use 1080p to see how the colours look.
Be sure it is using at least 4:2:2 at 1080p, 4:2:0 will have less colour pop.