980 Ti

1080P...Why the fuck would you benchmark these cards at 1080P

Because 144Hz monitors exist...

It always makes me laugh when people bitch about using top of the line cards for 1080P gaming.

The Witcher 3 is perfect example.
 
1080p is such an outdated resolution, why does anyone even use it??? Completely irrelevant.
 
Seriously, go find some other discussion to be apart of if some of you are going to make 1080p sound like such a non-challenging low resolution. Laughable

I have no clue what planet you people are on but I can stress 1080p out with all the eye candy on in a lot of games to the point I wish I had more horse power. Not just I, but a lot of folks here.

It's laughable that some of you act as if you know something the rest of us don't.

There are Titan reviews out right now, MANY that show the Titan hitting 40ish FPS @ 1080p with all the bells and whistles in several games. Go look and when you're done, come back here and shut up.
 
I don't get why we are so up in arms about benchmarks anyway. We already know what the card is!

Buying the Titan X or the 980Ti will come down to this...

Do you want or need the VRAM increase that comes with the Titan X? Then Buy It!
Feel like 6GB of VRAM will be alright for you? Save $300ish dollars and get a 980 Ti!

I'm not excited to see 1080p benchmarks of the card either but there is no need to be rude about it.

For those defending the 1080p benchmarks you have to keep in mind that 1080p is where you will see the least difference between the cards. You also have to keep in mind that 1080p at 144hz is even more of a niche market than 4k.

The 4k benchmarks will also be very relevant to those with 1080p displays because you will have the horsepower to use DSR in a lot games.
 
The 970 ended up with something like 12 models, lol.

yeah complete mess that was.

They effectively had 2 beta product sets before the competitive product. Also they got caught out with the backplates (lack of them).

Pre ACX 2.0 models - no silent fans.
ACX 2.0 models - silent fans but lacking in power delivery and older output configuration.
FTW+ and new SSC model - proper power delivery and better heatsinks. Although the ACX2.0 FTW also has a decent heatsink.
 
1080p is such an outdated resolution, why does anyone even use it??? Completely irrelevant.

I use 1050p, not all of us are addicted to pixel count.

For me improved visuals = better shadows, lighting, texture quality etc. not extra pixels.
 
800 euro then in here... as much as I paid for my 970's. I'll see how Ti works in W3 and gtav, as those are most taxing games I'll be playing for quite some time. If it's as fast as my current setup, I'll switch. If not, I'm staying on my cards till Pascal and 1070.
 
800 euro then in here... as much as I paid for my 970's. I'll see how Ti works in W3 and gtav, as those are most taxing games I'll be playing for quite some time. If it's as fast as my current setup, I'll switch. If not, I'm staying on my cards till Pascal and 1070.

depends. I think 1 980ti will be around the same speed as 970 SLI.

And single card! $800 is too rich for my blood, was hoping for $649 max.
 
Those benchmarks are LOL worthy - they have 980 at like 10-15% slower than Titan X :D
 
so about 850+ euros for 980ti,
ouch

nvidia is working hard to push flagship card price point to 1000$
 
I'm not sure how reliable that source is. The article specifically mentions the prices are tax inclusive which means actual base price would be lower. The other issue is that prices in the US are not listed with tax inclusive by convention and also sales tax would vary state by state, so is that price listing actually from a US source? Non US listings in USD do not correspond to actual US MSRPs.

Another source is claiming $650 - http://www.hwbattle.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=news&wr_id=1991
 
so about 850+ euros for 980ti,
ouch

nvidia is working hard to push flagship card price point to 1000$

I blame the lack of competition :/

I might just wait for Pascal anyway, not that many games where my gtx 970 is giving me trouble. But then I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to sell my 970 seeing how all literally all my gamer buddies are jumping on those so I dunno.
 
$650 would be nice.
Seems too close to the 980.

GTX 770 and GTX 780 both received price cuts ($70 and $150 respectively) due to the arrival of the GTX 780ti and AMDs 2xx series.

Keep in mind I'm not saying it will be either way but just too keep an open mind and critical viewpoint of any information.

Anyways all this will play out next month along with some street price adjustments and possibly followups (cuts/bundles) the following month or two.

The biggest risk is really next years releases. We could get something like a 8000gt situation which could cause massive distruption.
 
LOL if this card ends up being $799. That would be an uber stupid, greedy move by nV. I honestly would be so pissed I'd think about waiting for Pascal just to give the middle finger. Theyd miss my donation!
 
If it's $599 it will be solely due to something AMD did.
Nvidia will also have to cut the 980's price.
 
WCCF updated to include the other source.

HWBattle reports $649 US price for the 980 Ti. It leads me to belive that most of the retailers are inflating the prices since these are pre-orders. Will wait and see if they are correct but sure sounds nice. Also getting same Witcher 3/Batman AK bundle. There's also sources telling them about 980 price cuts down the road.
 
I believe it will be $599.

It will almost destroy the AMD Fury launch.
Problem is that there is absolutely no news on Fiji specs, just wild speculations and fake graphs. The fact that Fiji is going to be watercooled, without any fans will tell you right off the bat that's its going to be more expensive than a 290x launch price. Fiji is top end cards for enthusiasts, which is going to cost you. For the rest there is the last years re-brands.

Which brings me to my next point. A company does not price a card so low BEFORE another major competitor releases their cards. Nvidia is not stupid, why would they give away 980TI performance for the price of a regular 980? What they could do is lower the price WHEN the Fiji core launches.
 
Problem is that there is absolutely no news on Fiji specs, just wild speculations and fake graphs. The fact that Fiji is going to be watercooled, without any fans will tell you right off the bat that's its going to be more expensive than a 290x launch price. Fiji is top end cards for enthusiasts, which is going to cost you. For the rest there is the last years re-brands.

Which brings me to my next point. A company does not price a card so low BEFORE another major competitor releases their cards. Nvidia is not stupid, why would they give away 980TI performance for the price of a regular 980? What they could do is lower the price WHEN the Fiji core launches.

Indeed.

I really hope AMD delivers. We need it, as gamers and consumers.
 
Which brings me to my next point. A company does not price a card so low BEFORE another major competitor releases their cards. Nvidia is not stupid, why would they give away 980TI performance for the price of a regular 980? What they could do is lower the price WHEN the Fiji core launches.

If they price it high then cut few days after competitor launch they will look like greedy losers and it will make competitor product shine in price/performance comparision in reviews.

If they price it low it's win either way - either their force AMD to drop intended prices or it will make AMD product much less atractive in reviews.

Plus people spending this kind of cash aren't stupid - if they price it too high then a lot of people will simply skip it waiting for Pascal.
 
now you're talking... $650 and those 2 games, that would be something

"All right, listen: you know how in space movies they put astronauts in suspender animation so that their trip seems really short, right? I think I figured out how to do it. If I freeze myself, then in 2 months, when the AMD card comes out, you guys can unfreeze me. The wait will seem instantaneous to me."

Roughly $600 after selling both game codes :eek:
I've been patiently waiting like a Buddhist until AMD shows their hand before deciding on my next card, but this is gona make it really really hard if true.
 
BTW this reminds me of pre Titan X rumors - we had 1350 and 999 price points. I wonder if high price leaks are made especially so that when lower price is revealed then we as consumers react more favourably to it.
 
$650 sounds about right for the base 980Ti, then the manufacturers will put out $700-$800 versions with custom cooling and OOTB overclocks.

Which brings me to my next point. A company does not price a card so low BEFORE another major competitor releases their cards. Nvidia is not stupid, why would they give away 980TI performance for the price of a regular 980? What they could do is lower the price WHEN the Fiji core launches.
Sure it would if it would guarantee that the buyers won't buy the competition's product. Speaking from a potential buyer position now. If the 980Ti was released at $600 (that's only $50 more than a stock 980) I'd be a guaranteed buyer, at the estimated $650 (that's $100 more than a stock 980) I am interested but might wait to hear the final announced specs of the AMD Fiji line before I buy.

Right now I only have AMD's rumors to go on, but most of them have NOT been good to me. Limited to 4GB for a $700+ card? Water cooled means it runs real hot not exactly something I want either. Even if this card exceeds the Titan X in speed by 10%, at the price it'll be sold at, if it's NOT at least 6GB HBM I won't be buying it. To me that is hobbling the card out of the door. 4GB is sufficient now, but it won't likely be by next year. If I am buying a $700 card now, it's going to last at least 2 years, and 4GB just won't do.
 
Which brings me to my next point. A company does not price a card so low BEFORE another major competitor releases their cards. Nvidia is not stupid, why would they give away 980TI performance for the price of a regular 980? What they could do is lower the price WHEN the Fiji core launches.

Why did Nvidia price the GTX 970 at $330 when the R9 290 was still at $400 and AMD had just released the R9 285 at a hefty $250?
 
Why did Nvidia price the GTX 970 at $330 when the R9 290 was still at $400 and AMD had just released the R9 285 at a hefty $250?
Because 970 launched AFTER 290/x series did, not before...
The fact that 970/980 line of cards werent truly a new architecture, but more of a step up from the 780/TI series of cards with more energy efficiency and a marginal boost in specs.

What that means is that R&D costs have already been realized from the previous generation, so all Nvidia had to do is keep the oven baking and tout the awesome energy savings, which didnt cost them much. That is what allowed them to keep the prices relatively low and outmaneuver AMD.
 
Why did Nvidia price the GTX 970 at $330 when the R9 290 was still at $400 and AMD had just released the R9 285 at a hefty $250?

Because they probably knew the memory was gimped and the outrage would come back to bite them in the ass if the card was premiumly priced. After memory gate everyone was rationalizing it as, how do you think Nvidia was able to price it so low for that kind of performance.
 
Because 970 launched AFTER 290/x series did, not before...
The fact that 970/980 line of cards werent truly a new architecture, but more of a step up from the 780/TI series of cards with more energy efficiency and a marginal boost in specs.

What that means is that R&D costs have already been realized from the previous generation, so all Nvidia had to do is keep the oven baking and tout the awesome energy savings, which didnt cost them much. That is what allowed them to keep the prices relatively low and outmaneuver AMD.

That still constitutes a new architecture. If it wasn't a new architecture, the 980 ti wouldn't be nearly 50% faster with the same amount of shader units as the 780 ti dude.
 
now you're talking... $650 and those 2 games, that would be something

Yeah, got me really tempted to sell off my 980 now. I'm seeing a lot of recent sales of used cards on ebay for ~$500 still...which is nuts considering that's what I paid for my card at launch.
 
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