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I keep getting a 153 error on disk 3. How do I determine which disk is 3? I have 3 new 4TB drives, does this mean one of them is bad? I have like 70,000 of these errors now and smart tools etc all say all of my disks are healthy. I'm non longer able to stream most stuff from the server, and writing to this disk seems to be causing this error.

All I could find is this when searching for the error (Same error I am getting only I have it like 70k times over a few days).
http://serverfault.com/questions/49...at-logical-block-address-for-disk-was-retried
 
XOR != OR said:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ntdebugging/archive/2013/04/30/interpreting-event-153-errors.aspx

Looks like it's time to replace the drive. As for which one it is; this is why when I build a server I label the drives prior to putting it into production ( by the low-tech method of booting up without a drive plugged in, determine which one it is, rinse/repeat for all drives in system ).
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It's a brand new 4TB Drive that's part of my storage pool (If it is in fact drive 3 that shows in storage manager):( I don't know which port physically maps to drive 3 though, but all 3 are new hitachi's. I don't have a production environment at home, or well I guess everything is production.

Anyways I'm not sure what you mean about how I would label them in advance, since it seems you have no way to map them to a drive number until windows does.

If I remove any one of the 5 drives, the windows numbers just shift down so disk 4 becomes disk 3 (not matter which one I remove, unless of course I remove disk 4). There must be some way figure out which drive is drive 3.
 
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It's been my experience that windows numbers them based on their logical order on the controller. SATA/SAS whatever.

So you should be able to shut down, yank a drive, power it back up and see what number it was. The OS shouldn't reorder the drive number.
 
if you check the drives in device manager, look at the details tab, change the property to Location INformation, the 'value' should be the port on the MB (01,2,3,4,etc)
 
dbwillis said:
if you check the drives in device manager, look at the details tab, change the property to Location INformation, the 'value' should be the port on the MB (01,2,3,4,etc)
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Correct this will tell me which drive the one I view the information for is.

However I still don't know which drive is being reported as drive 3.
If I go to disk management, right click on drive 3, go to properties, then hardware, well it lists all the drives, not just the one I selected, and they are not in the same order as they are in the Disk Management.

So I still have no idea which drive is bad.

I removed one of the drive, and now I am getting constant errors on "Drive 2" but I still have no idea which of the remaining drives that is. But this does in fact verify that the bad drive's number changed upon removing one of the other drives. The disk I removed must have been either #1, or #2 since there is no longer a drive 3 listed and the drive failing now is drive #2 (Which can be assumed is the drive that used to be drive 3).
 
Justintoxicated said:
Correct this will tell me which drive the one I view the information for is.

However I still don't know which drive is being reported as drive 3.
If I go to disk management, right click on drive 3, go to properties, then hardware, well it lists all the drives, not just the one I selected, and they are not in the same order as they are in the Disk Management.

So I still have no idea which drive is bad.

I removed one of the drive, and now I am getting constant errors on "Drive 2" but I still have no idea which of the remaining drives that is. But this does in fact verify that the bad drive's number changed upon removing one of the other drives. The disk I removed must have been either #1, or #2 since there is no longer a drive 3 listed and the drive failing now is drive #2 (Which can be assumed is the drive that used to be drive 3).
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So now you just need to remove each drive and when you stop getting errors, you're holding the bad one. Worst case scenario is your drives are all good but the controller is bad.
 
You could try running "wmic diskdrive get status,deviceid,serialnumber" from the command line to see if that gives you a serial number for the bad disk that you can then look at on the drive itself.
 
I ended up using Crystal Disk Info, and Drive Manager.

Drive manager tells me which # drive matches to the drive letter, and CDI tells me which drive serial number per drive letter :)

No more errors since I pulled the drive, except that I don't have enough free space for my duplication to work now. And theres no good deals on 4TB drives.

Also I need to test the drive on another port with another cable (as was suggested above), to ensure my MB isn't bad. The drive only had about a month of use on it and I think it was likely bad from the get-go. Too bad I had to wait several months after buying them to install.
 
Justintoxicated said:
I ended up using Crystal Disk Info, and Drive Manager.

Drive manager tells me which # drive matches to the drive letter, and CDI tells me which drive serial number per drive letter :)

No more errors since I pulled the drive, except that I don't have enough free space for my duplication to work now. And theres no good deals on 4TB drives.

Also I need to test the drive on another port with another cable (as was suggested above), to ensure my MB isn't bad. The drive only had about a month of use on it and I think it was likely bad from the get-go. Too bad I had to wait several months after buying them to install.
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So you're out of warranty? In some cases consumer protection laws enable you to RMA the drive even after the warranty period if it's reasonable to expect your product to last longer than what it did.
 
B00nie said:
So you're out of warranty? In some cases consumer protection laws enable you to RMA the drive even after the warranty period if it's reasonable to expect your product to last longer than what it did.
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Nah it's still under warranty, I'm just not sure I will want to use a refurbished drive. I have NEVER had good luck with refurbished hard drives. They usually die right after warranty, or repeat times until the warranty is up. Just my experience but, they seem to be more hassle than they are worth.
 
I see you already figured it out, but if you want to know how to get physical disk->serial number with built in tools, powershell will do it:

Code: 
jgentile@win2012r2serv●~\Documents\WindowsPowerShell►Get-PhysicalDisk

FriendlyName        CanPool             OperationalStatus   HealthStatus        Usage                              Size
------------        -------             -----------------   ------------        -----                              ----
PhysicalDisk2       False               OK                  Healthy             Auto-Select                     1.82 TB
PhysicalDisk1       False               OK                  Healthy             Auto-Select                     1.82 TB
PhysicalDisk0       False               OK                  Healthy             Auto-Select                   238.47 GB


jgentile@win2012r2serv●~\Documents\WindowsPowerShell►Get-PhysicalDisk -FriendlyName physicaldisk1

FriendlyName        CanPool             OperationalStatus   HealthStatus        Usage                              Size
------------        -------             -----------------   ------------        -----                              ----
PhysicalDisk1       False               OK                  Healthy             Auto-Select                     1.82 TB


jgentile@win2012r2serv●~\Documents\WindowsPowerShell►(Get-PhysicalDisk -FriendlyName physicaldisk1).SerialNumber
     WD-WCAVY*******
jgentile@win2012r2serv●~\Documents\WindowsPowerShell►

there are other storage commandlets at: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh848705.aspx

Code: 
Get-physicaldisk|get-storagereliabilitycounter

Will tell which drive has read/write errors and you can use the above to get the serial. To get drive letters/partitions from physical disks:
Code: 
jgentile@win2012r2serv●~\Documents\WindowsPowerShell►(Get-PhysicalDisk)[0]

FriendlyName        CanPool             OperationalStatus   HealthStatus        Usage                              Size
------------        -------             -----------------   ------------        -----                              ----
PhysicalDisk2       False               OK                  Healthy             Auto-Select                     1.82 TB


jgentile@win2012r2serv●~\Documents\WindowsPowerShell►(Get-PhysicalDisk)[0]|Get-Disk

Number Friendly Name                            OperationalStatus                    Total Size Partition Style
------ -------------                            -----------------                    ---------- ---------------
2      WDC WD20EADS-00R6B0                      Online                                  1.82 TB GPT


jgentile@win2012r2serv●~\Documents\WindowsPowerShell►(Get-PhysicalDisk)[0]|Get-Disk|Get-Partition


   Disk Number: 2

PartitionNumber  DriveLetter Offset                                        Size Type
---------------  ----------- ------                                        ---- ----
1                            17408                                       128 MB Reserved
2                E           135266304                                  1.82 TB Basic


jgentile@win2012r2serv●~\Documents\WindowsPowerShell►
 
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