GTX 880 and 800 Series to be More Powerful But Cheaper than the 700 Series

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the truth is that we don't need more shading cores/processors.

what we need is a more robust memory architecture design, better coding, better game support from developers, AMD and NVidia creating exclusive game companies and of course disconnect from MS DX limited and tight law's on game developers..
 
Well, these consoles are in the works for many years before their release, so that's not too surprising.
 
Blue_Scholar said:
My how the mighty have fallen

(regarding a Maxwell thread that has now been hijacked by console crap).
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This thread was DOA just like every week when a new Maxwell or "Next-Generation Nvidia GPU" thread usually is. I'd say 9/10 threads talking about the next-gen product are usually people stroking their dicks getting hard at the thought of made up specs.
 
Liger88 said:
...I'd say 9/10 threads talking about the next-gen product are usually people stroking their dicks getting hard at the thought of made up specs.
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Blue_Scholar said:
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Lol love the gif and yeah ..... could not agree more. The 800 series aren't what we thought they were going to be. The same chipset .....so its going to be another mediocre upgrade. I cannot wait until they get the kinks worked out of the 20nm process to give us what we have been reading about. But then again its all speculative.
 
Nvidia wouldn't be planning to roll out an entire series of cards for a "mediocre upgrade" on entirely new architecture. Unless it's just a ploy by them to save money? Is Maxwell cheaper to produce? Isn't the die size larger, making it MORE expensive?
You guys must have time machines. It's not like we know how fast the cards are yet. Anything 15%~20% over the 780 Ti is gravy.
 
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Liger88 said:
I'd say 9/10 threads talking about the next-gen product are usually people stroking their dicks getting hard at the thought of made up specs.
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Lol. You've been in all the Maxwell speculation/rumor threads.. are you saying we should put our pants back on now? :D
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Nvidia wouldn't be planning to roll out an entire series of cards for a "mediocre upgrade" on entirely new architecture. Unless it's just a ploy by them to save money? Is Maxwell cheaper to produce? Isn't the die size larger, making it MORE expensive?
You guys must have time machines. It's not like we know how fast the cards are yet. Anything 15%~20% over the 780 Ti is gravy.
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If you are referring to gm204 then no from the preview pics it looks about ~25% smaller than gk110. If you are referring to the supposed 600mm^2 titan 2 monster, well i doubt nvidia sells that at $1000. Maybe $1500.
 
Any real news about stats or when the 8 series is supposed to drop for real?
Still rocking a 750ti but if the 8 series is great I'll move it to an older computer to update that GPU.
 
ep0x73 said:
Any real news about stats or when the 8 series is supposed to drop for real?
Still rocking a 750ti but if the 8 series is great I'll move it to an older computer to update that GPU.
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I don't think anything is solid as far as releasing. I thought I read some speculative things about this year, or maybe Q1 2015, but like I said nothing is solid just the rumor mill.

Hopefully Nvidia doesn't go the way of Intel and give us 15% or less of an improvement over the previous generation of products but improving on energy usage mostly.
 
ep0x73 said:
Any real news about stats or when the 8 series is supposed to drop for real?
Still rocking a 750ti but if the 8 series is great I'll move it to an older computer to update that GPU.
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October is the most solid date.
 
AFD said:
Lol. You've been in all the Maxwell speculation/rumor threads.. are you saying we should put our pants back on now? :D
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lol

Hey, I'm still stroking myself over the 6+ month old rumor thread that the GTX 880 would have 6400 Shaders and 16MB of L2 cache or some crazy number haha.
 
Sure am glad I bought those 780ti's a few months ago even though my friends told me to it was too late in the cycle and to "wait it out for the 800 series"
 
RaZoRbLaDeD said:
Sure am glad I bought those 780ti's a few months ago even though my friends told me to it was too late in the cycle and to "wait it out for the 800 series"
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Well we really don't have any solid information so far, so it still made sense to get the 780 ti's.
 
mls1995 said:
agreed based on everything I've read. I think Nvidia would be nuts not to get a new product out in 2014 and before black friday
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Nvidias Black Friday deals are for lower end items usually. Last year I think it was thelower end 600 series, 660 ti /760/770 for BF sale...and tegra and shield. Te discounts were probably 10-30 $ off if that

Maybe a good deal on the 750/750ti.

http://slickdeals.net/f/6489494-the...er-monday-video-card-thread-updated-regularly

Oh $10 off a 780.
 
SinOfLiberty said:
700 will an old tech pretty soon. 800s are coming!
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800-series announcement this Wednesday, right? July 14th, 2014 GPU Tech Conference in Japan!

Or.. are we in for watching another hour-long feed of some more Tegra automotive tech and Shield bullshit, and how awesome Pascal will be in another 2 years? :p
 
AFD said:
800-series announcement this Wednesday, right? July 14th, 2014 GPU Tech Conference in Japan!

Or.. are we in for watching another hour-long feed of some more Tegra automotive tech and Shield bullshit, and how awesome Pascal will be in another 2 years? :p
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I don't know. Nobody would expect that conference to be a big deal, but if it wasn't for Linus's WAN show on Friday mentioning how he had a super secret Nvidia meeting next week then I wouldn't give it a second thought.

I really hope Nvidia doesn't waste peoples time like they did back in March.
 
AFD said:
800-series announcement this Wednesday, right? July 14th, 2014 GPU Tech Conference in Japan!

Or.. are we in for watching another hour-long feed of some more Tegra automotive tech and Shield bullshit, and how awesome Pascal will be in another 2 years? :p
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800s are for PAX Prime in August !

Japan GTC is for pro GPUs, I think there will be more GM200 related info.
 
ep0x73 said:
Any real news about stats or when the 8 series is supposed to drop for real?
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no. if they're on schedule they'll finish and launch at the most opportune time for profit generation, like back to school season (late august) or christmas season (early november). if they don't launch at either of those times, then that means they've slipped
 
I just wish we had spec's and a date, my 690 is getting long in the tooth and hampered by 2g vram size...
 
800s were originally supposed to be released in 2013...

But getting closer to where we are at it currently, 800s had May release set by NV but due to over stock of 28nm GPUs, its vendors talked them not to push the series, as the profit margins from 28nm were not met yet by AIBs.
That is why there was a game bundle(watch dogs) on all NV cards, when sales had to be sped up.

Now, NV is just messing around with ES of its new series as at this point, there is nothing else to be done with it. They are at stagnation. until the release happens.
 
SinOfLiberty said:
800s were originally supposed to be released in 2013...

But getting closer to where we are at it currently, 800s had May release set by NV but due to over stock of 28nm GPUs, its vendors talked them not to push the series, as the profit margins from 28nm were not met yet by AIBs.
That is why there was a game bundle(watch dogs) on all NV cards, when sales had to be sped up.

Now, NV is just messing around with ES of its new series as at this point, there is nothing else to be done with it. They are at stagnation. until the release happens.
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Maxwell has already been stripped of most things that made it interesting when Nvidia first overly bragged about it 4+ years ago. I can only hope they make the same stupid mistake AMD made that lost them huge market share by waiting a year longer to release a stupid refresh of an existing generation because, get this, they were making so much money off the Never Settle Bundle. I wouldn't be surprised if venders helped do to AMD what they might be doing to Nvidia as you claim.

This case is a little different because it's a major architecture change, but unless we see a huge 50% jump on all product lines (which I doubt) it'll be remembered as one of Nvidia's biggest blunders (which it is). Project Denver disaster, lack of ARM cores, 28nm over the 20nm original design, and Unified Memory pushed to Pascal to name a few. Pascal is really the "original" Maxwell at this point and Volta is literally a name that has nothing attached to it even Nvidia not knowing what it'll become besides a codename.

What I take from Maxwell is that Nvidia is nervous. They know it isn't what they intended and have to strike strategically even before AMD at a cost reduction like they claim just to maintain the balance. Nobody's going to bitch if Nvidia drops a GTX 780 Ti relative card to $499. That's probably the best we'll see from the 800 Series.
 
The only thing we know for sure is that Apple will have a 20nm GPU out before NVIDIA and AMD do.
 
So if the card comes out in October, how long until the sought after Overclocked/quiet version cards come out? I would assume it isn't advised to buy the reference cards right out of the gate.
 
tehgray said:
So if the card comes out in October, how long until the sought after Overclocked/quiet version cards come out? I would assume it isn't advised to buy the reference cards right out of the gate.
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Isn't it a few months after give or take for the custom coolers?

If you plan on using a waterblock there's nothing wrong with reference design.
 
Shogon said:
Isn't it a few months after give or take for the custom coolers?

If you plan on using a waterblock there's nothing wrong with reference design.
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Usually that's the expected norm, but often times in recent years they come much much faster. EVGA seems to be all over custom cooling.
 
tehgray said:
So if the card comes out in October, how long until the sought after Overclocked/quiet version cards come out? I would assume it isn't advised to buy the reference cards right out of the gate.
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Nvidia's reference coolers have been great.... I tried an r9 290 reference recently though and had previously owned a 7970, and both were obnoxious in tone, whine, and loudness. In short, nvidia reference = fine, amd reference = oh god no!

:)
 
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