Firefox & Safari Continue to Suck Even More

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We have been partial to Google's Chrome for a long time around here so it does not surprise us to see Firefox and Safari lose significant user share. We look at the users that install Hover Hound and see Chrome lead Firefox about about 10 to 1.

Firefox's user share on all platforms -- desktop and mobile -- has plunged in the last two months as its desktop browser continued to bleed and its attempt to capture users on smartphones failed to move the needle, new data shows. Apple's Safari fared almost as poorly since April, also losing significant user share, with a continued decline on mobile and a sudden slide on the desktop to blame.
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paret0 said:
I hate Chrome.
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Ditto...;)

This also includes mobile--so it's not really that important a statistic, imo. I'm very comfortable with FF 30.0 on an actual Windows box. Chrome is far too much of a never-ending beta, and the only way to get rid of googleupdate.exe is to uninstall Chrome.
 
ya i'm not a fan of chrome either. I used to love opera but they are going to chromium. I like firefox i just wish it was less buggy and faster. For day to day bs i find myself using ie11 more and more. Its very fast. But for serious stuff i'm back into the firefox camp
 
I agree in the computer hardware enthusiast market, Chrome is the leader.

However, considering in the most recent Tom's Hardware Browser Grand Prix has Firefox beating Chrome in many usability categories, including 40 tab page load and memory utilization, I'm kind of surprised so many people still use Chrome.

I think it's mostly because the Chrome UI transition draw pops in rather than fades in like FF, which fools the eye into thinking overall that Chrome is faster. Windows 8 does this when compared to Windows 7, and we used to disable the fade effect on XP machines to give users the same appearance of a faster UI back in the day. It really does make a difference.

Otherwise, I've never noticed Chrome loading or displaying pages any faster than FF. Chromes "superiority" is mostly an illusion. If FF developers stopped focusing on UX and instead made changes to the speed of the UI, FF would be right there with Chrome.
 
I see two things this proves, hoverhound users prefer chrome and computerworld users prefer chrome. I don't know about anyone else but I use firefox and never visit computerworld and don't use hoverhound.
 
I honestly dont have any problems with FireFox.

Heck, is the first thing I install on any new systems I do.
 
Here on the forums we see this breakdown:

Chrome - 52%

Firefox - 23%

IE - 11%

Safari - 9%
 
Not a fan of Chrome. I prefer it to IE, but I only use it as backup in cases where, for example, Firefox with Adblock is a hassle on some obscure site I get linked to by a friend etc. Or if I'm testing code and wanna compare how it looks between browsers etc.

And for that I have another Firefox add-on for "open in Chrome" so... to each his own I guess.
 
Kyle - with a news tittle that states that some people's preferred browsers "Suck" It made me chuckle to think that you might be trolling your own readers, or on the other hand looking to get more comments on the article thread.

For me, I use FF. Probably more of a habit since I stuck with them even when Chrome had a clear speed lead. I also don't want a company dictating what happens on the internet more than Google already does. I doubt my vote counts in the grand scheme of things.
 
I still see more problems with malware + Chrome/IE on peoples systems than with FF. Usually all browsers are pretty hosed on infected systems but FF is often the only browser that can still sort of function.

Personally, I still use FF more than any other browser, mostly just because I'd rather support it more than Google or Microsoft.
 
Firefox user here and will continue to be so. Fast, stable and a ton of add-on's. Not sure why you'd have to use the word "suck" in the thread title but whatever.
 
Az Syndicate said:
Kyle - with a news tittle that states that some people's preferred browsers "Suck" It made me chuckle to think that you might be trolling your own readers, or on the other hand looking to get more comments on the article thread.
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If it made you chuckle, then I did my job. :D
 
Kyle B, making us all chuckle for almost 2 decades. Dang, that is almost older than the internet itself!
 
Carouselambra said:
I'm very surprised by this unless a lot of people browse [H] on their phones..

I personally use FF and IE
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Could also be demographic varying by site for some reason; last I checked it was about half half on Ars and TR for example.
 
Chrome is the bane of my existence at work, does nothing but cause issues with its auto assumption that everything is evil and block it.

Heck some guy even coded something that worked in Chrome only, and they sunk so much money in to it chrome was required to be installed on thousands of PCs, which lead to phone calls of why our software was broken. When in fact it was the lovely chrome hijack/popup blocking/java no worky without 6 different stages of uninstalls and reinstalls.

Getting java to work in it was also a nightmare, so many uninstall and reinstalls...lots of search results on that.
 
i hate Chrome as well. But sadly it seems FF has slowly been moving in the direction of a wannbe Chrome clone. First it was with that dumb decision to give FF a new version number for every minor update (by this time next year we'll probably be in FF 50), and now with the new ui revamp that looks almost like Chrome itself.

The market share probably dropped since FF stupidly did a complete ui revamp which i think happened in the past couple months. From a lot of comments I've read on the FF forum, seems like the vast majority disliked the new ui.

I've been a FF user since before it was even called FF, but a lot of decisions over the past year + has really made me start to dislike the direction they are going.
 
i just hope to god FF never uses windows vpn setup, that drives me goddamn banana annas
 
"No seriosly guise! FF is the best!!!!" sounds a lot like insecurity. It's clear most people on this forum don't agree with that sentiment.

I gave up on FF years ago because 1) it's unstable and 2) it's insecure. Those problems have not been fixed in the intervening years, so I made the right choice.
 
I use Chrome, but I do test sites I've built in other browsers.

Firefox resembles the web more accurately than Chrome does. IE and FF displays the site the same when Chrome and Safari has their issues.
Adding margin to the top of a site can cause wacky stuff to happen sometimes between browsers. But IE and FF remains consistent.

Also FF scroll is butter smooth and Chrome is jittery. I mainly use Chrome because it's synced to everything.
But I can also see myself using FF it I have time to move everything over. Just lazy (errr locked in.)
 
Carouselambra said:
I'm very surprised by this unless a lot of people browse [H] on their phones..
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For our mobile site it breaks down like this...

Chrome - 46%

Safari - 30%

Android - 10%

IE - 5%

Firefox - 3%
 
I use Safari at home on the laptop, and on the go on my phone. Works perfectly fine, and doesn't "suck".
 
Firefox is shitty software. I used to use it until an update caused it to crash every 5 minutes, then i went to chrome. Tried to come back to firefox, and again after a few months it does nothing but crash. Shitty software with horrible QA
 
I use FireFox personally. I don't necessarily dislike Chrome, and I do think it is particularly well suited for a "novice" user. It's one of the browsers I pre-install on systems I build. For my own purposes however, if FireFox went downhill to where it was unusable somehow, I'd use Internet Explorer before I'd use Chrome.
 
Very surprised honestly. I have Firefox, Chrome, Opera, and IE installed, and 99% of the time use Firefox. Nothing is really wrong with any of the others I even at one time thought about switching to chrome, but ever since chrome let plugins auto update and I got someone's adware installed after they bought out one of the chrome plugins, chrome became more of a security threat and I stopped using it. I now run it vanilla with 0 plugins so it's a lot less useful and only run it if noscript gives me an issue with a site with firefox.
 
I don't like Chrome and I was really annoyed by Mozilla's ousting of Brendan Eich because of his campaign contributions. That leaves me with IE or Opera. I'm actually still on Firefox but have been lazy in trying out the latest Opera..
 
I really dislike Chrome. A lot. A little too much google in my life.

I suspect the changes with Firefox 29+ didn't help it much. Fortunately Classic Theme Restorer is available so all is good.
 
Firefox didn't do themselves any favors with the latest update which makes FF look like Chrome.
 
Chrome is wonky, but you eventually just get used to it. I used to hate it and it still has a bunch of quirks, but I've grown to appreciate how light it is and not needing to get weekly updates to Flash.
Firefox is the most flexible, but I got tired of the way it handles updates and plug-ins.
New versions of IE aren't too terrible...but the less said about versions 8 and below the better.
Safari is complete trash, though. It's like all of the worst things about IE and Firefox rolled into one.
 
I hate using chrome because for me it has the most problems with open work related web apps. Also Firefox is lighter weight than Chrome on my work's computer.
 
Normal consumers take time to move. But chrome has a couple of nice additions. Mainly firefox by default still seems to be stuck with the older separate search field. And chrome includes stuff like Java and makes it easier for users since they don't need to install it separately. I think most of the movement is going to be firefox users to chrome safari has nowhere but down to go, its just what comes on macs, and apple is losing mac market share to mobile segments.

IE is fine and gained a huge boost from autocorrect and built in spell check now. Honestly the spell check was the main reason I would always look to firefox / chrome. Without that I have little reason to bother moving away from IE.
 
illli said:
i hate Chrome as well. But sadly it seems FF has slowly been moving in the direction of a wannbe Chrome clone. First it was with that dumb decision to give FF a new version number for every minor update (by this time next year we'll probably be in FF 50), and now with the new ui revamp that looks almost like Chrome itself.

The market share probably dropped since FF stupidly did a complete ui revamp which i think happened in the past couple months. From a lot of comments I've read on the FF forum, seems like the vast majority disliked the new ui.

I've been a FF user since before it was even called FF, but a lot of decisions over the past year + has really made me start to dislike the direction they are going.
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FF 29 and their UI update smacks of M$ and W8 (take it or leave it, you have no choice)

Dr_John said:
I really dislike Chrome. A lot. A little too much google in my life.

I suspect the changes with Firefox 29+ didn't help it much. Fortunately Classic Theme Restorer is available so all is good.
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1 min to install FF update, 30 min to get UI looking like FF28

Ultima99 said:
I like my Dolphin browser on Android.
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Ditto
 
Also firefox is another open source tragedy that google will slaughter.
 
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