Am I the only one that misses spare batteries?

Should we go back to having spare batteries to swap?

  • That would be good.

    Votes: 33 39.3%

  • They should use normal batteries so we can get spare rechargeables.

    Votes: 5 6.0%

  • Meh. I don't mind having to plug the phone in.

    Votes: 46 54.8%
  • Total voters
    84
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NoLifeDGenerate

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Some might not remember this, but in the 90s we swapped batteries instead of having our phones tethered to the wall for hours. I'm surprised more people aren't missing this option as much as you see everyone with these phones constantly in their hands. For that matter, would it really kill them to make the phones use normal batteries (rechargeable) instead of proprietary nonsense? None of it benefits the consumer. Never has.
 
your proposal has been rejected on the grounds of reduced planned obsolescence profit and a surplus of common sense.
 
We already have spare batteries we use Samsung devices.
 
yes, because its the same use a old nokia 800mAh in my Galaxy S4?. :rolleyes: oh.. the things we have to read nowadays... i only have to charge my phone 2 hours for a 1.5 Day usage? with already 2 spare batteries and a battery docking charger?. i can use my phone 24/ 7 without do not have to connect ever my phone to the charger.. =).. it seems that you are a iphone user xD..
 
Araxie said:
yes, because its the same use a old nokia 800mAh in my Galaxy S4?. :rolleyes: oh.. the things we have to read nowadays... i only have to charge my phone 2 hours for a 1.5 Day usage? with already 2 spare batteries and a battery docking charger?. i can use my phone 24/ 7 without do not have to connect ever my phone to the charger.. =).. it seems that you are a iphone user xD..
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Never owned an iAnything. I don't text or use data. I use an old LG flip phone. No matter how many replacement batteries I get for it, it's not holding a charge worth a damn anymore.
 
xIronCrossx said:
Can always use a battery case if you can't replace it.
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I'm not exactly thrilled with the band aid approach. My phone, a Note 3 would probably get turned into the ZeroLemon version with a case like that.

Although you are correct, it is still an option.
 
The 2+ day battery life I get out of my Droid Maxx and S5 is enough. I don't bother with spare batteries, especially with the uber fast charging of the S5.
 
Even though my Galaxy Note phones have replaceable batteries there's no need for spares since they last easily from two to three days with normal use and up to five days with light use.
 
Well lets put it this way the only way any sort of standard hot swappable battery is going to come about is if the form factor of phones stagnates. I admit it was nice having phones that would last nearly a week on a charge but its nicer being able to access the internet.

Also have you considered if your phone wont hold a charge that it may actually be damaged and the phone is not properly charging the battery?
 
I have 2 spare batteries for my Nokia 810, comes in handy for when I use GPS as that EATS battery like no tomorrow and also allows for extended browsing when I am waiting at an airport on international travel
 
I do not miss spare battery on my Lumia 1020. Integrated battery let Nokia , ohhh sorry, Microsoft to build a very thin , solid and robust mobile phone with minimum amount of moving and detachable parts. Wireless charging and wireless charging plates in home and in the car let my phone be always charged.

In case I travel and need extra battery i take a power bank with me. It is almost the same as taking spare battery. The only downside is that you need to spend time to recharge the phone from power bank but I see this as a minor problem. Benefits outweigh this small problem for me.
 
I never stopped using multiple batteries: I've had two for all of my phones; the latest being LG P880. When buying a new phone I first filter out all that don't have user swappable batteries.
 
Araxie said:
yes, because its the same use a old nokia 800mAh in my Galaxy S4?. :rolleyes: oh.. the things we have to read nowadays... i only have to charge my phone 2 hours for a 1.5 Day usage? with already 2 spare batteries and a battery docking charger?. i can use my phone 24/ 7 without do not have to connect ever my phone to the charger.. =).. it seems that you are a iphone user xD..
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With you with you with you, wait what? My iPhone 4s gets like 4 days on a charge. Wifi and gps get left on 24/7. I had a galaxy s3 that didn't have as much battery longevity.
 
I have a Note 3 and I keep a spare battery in my back pocket. It has came in handy on 2 or 3 occasions...
 
I don't need a spare battery for my GS3...I've got a 7000 mAh Zero Lemon battery in there that can last over a day with my normal heavy use and three to four days with light to moderate use. Best $40 I spent on a battery.

That being said, I will not buy a phone if it doesn't have a removable battery and there isn't some kind of extended battery available for it.
 
Not missing them here - Note3 has a removable battery, so I can keep as many spares as I want. Thought the battery life on it is so good I haven't even considered getting a spare yet. Being able to charge it from 0%-100% in ~1.5h via USB3 also makes it a non-issue.

Before this I had a RazrMaxx, which also had excellent battery life. Not a removable battery, but that was never a problem.

And if you happen to have an (i)phone with permanent sucky battery, there are those battery-shell cases you can get that make them USB-chargeable and add a lot of battery capacity. I would look into one of those immediately if I had such an issue.
 
I have a Galaxy S4 so I don't miss spares as I still have spares.

I also get about two days worth of usage so that's nice too.
 
wabbitseason said:
The irony is that Samsung is a master of planned obsolescence in other areas, like appliances.
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I don't know about the irony, because Samsung phones are far more likely to break with a drop than its competitors. People just choose to turn a blind eye. As long as it's not Apple, amirite?
 
Or maybe people just stick their phone in a case if they drop them often. The difference in phone tolerance of drops has been insignificant in my experience. You drop any phone period it breaks if it hits wrong. All the iPhone repair signs all over town aren't there because iPhones are so durable.

But I can almost guarantee a dead battery on any phone I use. With removable batteries its not a problem.

I don't have any significant number of Samsung appliances so I can't comment.
 
jcvjcvjcvjcv said:
I call bullshit on that one. Leaving wifi and gps while not ever using it in those four days...
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call bullshit all you like, it doesn't offend my trusty s4. ;) I have a piece of tape over the feedback port to keep it from echoing when I make calls but the battery life is not related.

When I picked this sucker up it couldn't hold a charge for shit. I replaced the battery and the charge port and it will literally hold a charge for 4 days. How much I use my phone sorta varies though, so it's probably 4 days maximum.
 
rudy said:
Or maybe people just stick their phone in a case if they drop them often. The difference in phone tolerance of drops has been insignificant in my experience. You drop any phone period it breaks if it hits wrong. All the iPhone repair signs all over town aren't there because iPhones are so durable.

But I can almost guarantee a dead battery on any phone I use. With removable batteries its not a problem.

I don't have any significant number of Samsung appliances so I can't comment.
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Facts:
1. Most people do not use cases.
2. There is no proof that a case could even protect a phone. If you want to prove it, be my guest. Drop your phone many times for control. And then drop it again many times in a case. Good luck. Otherwise, do not suggest that a phone case protects other than from scratches.

Situations that you might find yourself in:
When in a phone call with 911, or just any really important phone call that you simply cannot hang up, and you're running low on batteries, good luck pulling the battery out. Sure, while I can't argue about having the option to replace your battery, I just see it as just another gimmick that I won't use. I'd rather keep a battery bank nearby. There are also plenty of portable banks that works universally, instead of buying a battery specific to a model. Banks are just much better re-usability.
 
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i just charge my phone overnight. lasts me a full day, whats the problem?

64gb iphone 4s, gets pretty heavy use over the day. wifi and a little bluetooth
 
I agree with others, swapping out a battery is stupid these days. You are best off using a battery banks or case with an extended battery.

Many of todays highend phones will last a full day with moderate usage
 
NoLifeDGenerate said:
Some might not remember this, but in the 90s we swapped batteries instead of having our phones tethered to the wall for hours. I'm surprised more people aren't missing this option as much as you see everyone with these phones constantly in their hands. For that matter, would it really kill them to make the phones use normal batteries (rechargeable) instead of proprietary nonsense? None of it benefits the consumer. Never has.
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The batteries are li-ion cells the size and shape are so our phones can be thin there is no upgrade by going to a proprietary cell what we would need is a standard size li-ion size every one uses. There is a slimming factor by the way they build the batteries into the phones we loose a few mm.

If we switched to 1x 18650 or 3x 14500 cells our phones at one side would be 1 inch thick or 1/2 thick the mah for 18650 go up to 2400-3400 mah so this makes a decent option the 14500 is the size of a AA battery they come in about 750-1200 mah to provide the run time in line with current batteries you would need at least 2 in parallel of the 14500. Currently my note 3 is ran off a 3200 mah battery to equal that i would need 3x 14500 in parallel or 1x 18650 the minimum size thick a 18650 is 18mm my note 3 is 8.3 mm thick i would gain over 9.7 mm in thickness on my phone. Or if i went with the 3x 14500 these are 14.5 mm thick i would gain 6mm thickness i would then have 2250-3600 mah capacity. If I drop down to the next standard the size of aaa they are 10mm thick gain of over 2mm they have a capacity of 350-600 mah 4x would be possible on either side in parallel again perhaps 6 on the top and 2 on each side say 6x 2100-3600 mah capacity.

But the issue is the 18650 14500 and 10440 are not commonly found in every local walmart so your talking about using nimh AA or AAA the capacities on those are slightly better but the amperage they can deliver are much lower in addition we would need to make 1.2 volts go up to 3.7 volts so 3 in series would be required. We would also need to allow for 3.6-4.5 volts operating voltage if regular alkaline are used.
 
The thickness argument is moot. Phones are ridiculously thin already. I'd take a phone with a few extra millimeters if it meant I could replace the battery. No more brainlessly buying a new device every 2 years as a "good consumer".
 
when I bought my s2 in china it came with a second battery which I kept as a spare in a drawer. I bought an s4 and bought a 12000mAh battery pack that I keep in my bag in case I need it. It's great for when I travel and it can charge any two devices at the same time. The problem with swapping batteries is keeping them both charged.
 
CHANG3D said:
Facts:
1. Most people do not use cases.
2. There is no proof that a case could even protect a phone. If you want to prove it, be my guest. Drop your phone many times for control. And then drop it again many times in a case. Good luck. Otherwise, do not suggest that a phone case protects other than from scratches.

Situations that you might find yourself in:
When in a phone call with 911, or just any really important phone call that you simply cannot hang up, and you're running low on batteries, good luck pulling the battery out. Sure, while I can't argue about having the option to replace your battery, I just see it as just another gimmick that I won't use. I'd rather keep a battery bank nearby. There are also plenty of portable banks that works universally, instead of buying a battery specific to a model. Banks are just much better re-usability.
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Or I could just buy anything I want, you know with a removable battery I can still use an external battery if I want to waste the space in my pocket. But I don't so I don't have to because when my battery starts losing charge after a year or so I can just replace it in 5 minutes.

Plenty of phone cases protect from drops, I wont even bother arguing with you if you are going to be that stupid. Hey guys cases and stuff don't protect things, there is no proof. So shipping companies should stop putting products in boxes.

The signs all over town that say iphone screen repair, I am going to ask again are those for the phone that is so durable?
 
wabbitseason said:
The thickness argument is moot. Phones are ridiculously thin already. I'd take a phone with a few extra millimeters if it meant I could replace the battery. No more brainlessly buying a new device every 2 years as a "good consumer".
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im not just talking a little bit thicker at least 2 times the thickness of current phones for the same capacity the iphone and latest galaxy line are running between 6mm and 9mm thick i believe they dont need to be any thinner than they are now.

When i read the op i thought what shape would phones need to allow for this and i came up with some odd shapes a tear drop on the side would be likely what we are talking here.

No there needs to be a flat rectangular battery that is the standard and since each manufacture will make money off each proprietary battery sold i doubt we will see a standard across phones for a battery size.

CHANG3D said:
Facts:
1. Most people do not use cases.
2. There is no proof that a case could even protect a phone. If you want to prove it, be my guest. Drop your phone many times for control. And then drop it again many times in a case. Good luck. Otherwise, do not suggest that a phone case protects other than from scratches.

Situations that you might find yourself in:
When in a phone call with 911, or just any really important phone call that you simply cannot hang up, and you're running low on batteries, good luck pulling the battery out. Sure, while I can't argue about having the option to replace your battery, I just see it as just another gimmick that I won't use. I'd rather keep a battery bank nearby. There are also plenty of portable banks that works universally, instead of buying a battery specific to a model. Banks are just much better re-usability.
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your lack of intelligence is beyond reproach having worked as a radio shack employee i can tell you not only do most people use cases on their phones most of them regret not having a case when they dropped their phone and the screen cracked.
 
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lol Samsung TVs are the ONLY TVs I am aware of where they actually sell a kit to upgrade it. What is the planned obsolescence you speak of in TVs. Although I have stuck with Panasonic plasmas I must admit Samsung makes a tempting proposition with the evolution kit for anyone who doesn't know how to hook an HTPC up.
 
wabbitseason said:
The thickness argument is moot. Phones are ridiculously thin already. I'd take a phone with a few extra millimeters if it meant I could replace the battery. No more brainlessly buying a new device every 2 years as a "good consumer".
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If you add replaceable battery you will add moving detachable parts to the phone that make it less durable.
 
Lunas said:
your lack of intelligence is beyond reproach having worked as a radio shack employee i can tell you not only do most people use cases on their phones most of them regret not having a case when they dropped their phone and the screen cracked.
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Most people are stupid.
I'm not going to put an ugly ass case on my phone.
If you have the disposable income for a smartphone in the first place be less of a pleb about it.

Another pro tip: don't have kids. They'll wreck your things.
 
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