The Wii U is done

[Majinhoju]

That's not the point. It's not a major player. No third party support.

Yeah, they won E3 but you can't play FIFA on a Wii U. See above and calm down.

it's all good.

I think as long as they can offer good first party games they'll survive. That doesn't mean they're thrive, but i think they'll survive.

 

[next-Jin]

^ you are the minority as you try to discredit everything anyone else says

so explain to me why once the PS4 and XBONE one were released, the Wii U actually saw an INCREASE in sales...

oops

so do us all a favor and quit talking until you actually have some facts to back up your position

you want an example of a console that is done?

PS2
Xbox
Gamecube
Saturn

all of those are no longer supported by their manufacturers... aka done

I don't know maybe because of the price drop and the fact it was the holiday season with the PS4 being sold out everywhere?

I only post facts, not sure where yours are. I only discredit posts that need to be discredited like you citing VGChartz or other folks saying the Wii U will be a success, will be #2 this generation, etc.

 

[next-Jin]

It seems you mistake persistence with being right and in the majority. Sure you have more persistence in posting about something you are wrong about but like a Scientologist preaching his nonsense loudly and proudly it doesn't make you right.

With no one to prove me wrong I'm not sure how you correlate that to Scientology considering it's a religion and religion is a belief in something unprovable. If anything that describes some of my opponents here.

The fundamental facts are that until Nintendo shows a sustained growth in console sales beyond even my expected numbers (over 100k a month for the next 7 years) it will meet the threads definition of being done.

- No third party support
- Distant third place
- Long droughts
- Lower sales than the next worst selling Nintendo console (GameCube)

It's only not "done" for people who actually bought the console. In everyone else's eyes and he market in general it's done.

 

[next-Jin]

Yep, that's one thing the other consoles do not have. Recognizable characters and franchises that people love beyond just hardcore gamers. And don't try to tell me Master Chief fits this role.

People know who Link is. People know who Mario is. Like you said icons. They're synonymous with video games, and there is a reason for that. They're good games that people like to play. I play as many "hardcore" games as the next person here, but I effing LOVE Mario, Zelda, Pikmin, Samus, etc.

My kids love these games too, and it makes me happy to see them enjoy something that I did as a kid too. They also play Minecraft, Borderlands and Terraria with me on their PCs, and we have a blast there too. Still though Nintendo games have a different appeal. They're like the Pixar of games in a way. They appeal to a very wide audience. Some people might want to be "ultra cool" and say they're not into them, but they know damned well they are somewhere down inside.

Because of this the WiiU is not done. It's just being adopted slowly as these games are released. It's obvious that the fans of each Nintendo franchise pick up the system when the game(s) they're waiting for are released. I did the same thing. I sat and waited until Wind Waker and Super Mario 3D World came out, because those are the games I was waiting for (in addition to some others that are still to come.)

You can cite sales figures all day, but the WiiU is not going anywhere any time soon.

Of course it's not going anywhere any time soon, they don't have any other choice to support it with a few games a year until they release their next platform.

Hell it's literally not going anywhere anytime soon in almost every imaginable way (sales, market share, support, etc)

 

[DaRat]

With no one to prove me wrong I'm not sure how you correlate that to Scientology considering it's a religion and religion is a belief in something unprovable. If anything that describes some of my opponents here.

The fundamental facts are that until Nintendo shows a sustained growth in console sales beyond even my expected numbers (over 100k a month for the next 7 years) it will meet the threads definition of being done.

- No third party support
- Distant third place
- Long droughts
- Lower sales than the next worst selling Nintendo console (GameCube)

It's only not "done" for people who actually bought the console. In everyone else's eyes and he market in general it's done.

I'm not so sure it's "done" for everyone else. If anything, e3 gave it the buzz the console needed for the gaming community. Now Nintendo needs to create a buzz among the more casual gamers. They have the absolute best "value" console right now. You can score a Wii U and quite a few games for the cost of the Ps4 or Xbox One.

 

[next-Jin]

I'm not so sure it's "done" for everyone else. If anything, e3 gave it the buzz the console needed for the gaming community. Now Nintendo needs to create a buzz among the more casual gamers. They have the absolute best "value" console right now. You can score a Wii U and quite a few games for the cost of the Ps4 or Xbox One.

For the refurb and MK8 free game yea. I'm actually thinking about picking it up off craigslist if I can find it cheap enough. 150 or so for the Black model plus MK8 for 50 and Zelda/Mario 2D.

 

[Eradan]

With no one to prove me wrong I'm not sure how you correlate that to Scientology considering it's a religion and religion is a belief in something unprovable. If anything that describes some of my opponents here.

The fundamental facts are that until Nintendo shows a sustained growth in console sales beyond even my expected numbers (over 100k a month for the next 7 years) it will meet the threads definition of being done.

- No third party support
- Distant third place
- Long droughts
- Lower sales than the next worst selling Nintendo console (GameCube)

It's only not "done" for people who actually bought the console. In everyone else's eyes and he market in general it's done.

You forget:

- Not a major player.

Iwata agrees.

For the record, no one can prove you wrong because you're stating the obvious. Yeah, brother, the sky is blue. Calm down. The fact is, no one here gives a shit. Now, for the last time, can I please have my Great Debaters DVD back?

 

[next-Jin]

You forget:

- Not a major player.

Iwata agrees.

For the record, no one can prove you wrong because you're stating the obvious. Yeah, brother, the sky is blue. Calm down. The fact is, no one here gives a shit. Now, for the last time, can I please have my Great Debaters DVD back?

Several people in this thread disagree including your own statement numerous times in this thread. If no one disagreed the thread would have died in Feb when I stopped posting. Not being a major player is a result not a reason.

Actually it would have died last summer, never mind me not being here then. It's a long ass thread for a reason, people care about Nintendo. That's a good thing.

 

[FrEaKy]

Several people in this thread disagree including your own statement numerous times in this thread. If no one disagreed the thread would have died in Feb when I stopped posting. Not being a major player is a result not a reason.

Actually it would have died last summer, never mind me not being here then. It's a long ass thread for a reason, people care about Nintendo. That's a good thing.

Were all under the assumption now that if we let you think you've won, you will stop the bull-crap. But you have not yet, so I see reverse psychology does not work on you!

So lets try this;

 

[next-Jin]

Were all under the assumption now that if we let you think you've won, you will stop the bull-crap.]

I'm not trying to win anything, I'm responding to posts that are simply extremely misguided or factually wrong. If I was hell bent on seeing the Wii U die, or Nintendo to go bankrupt I'd be in other Nintendo threads shitting on them.

Note: Other people do, and have posted in this thread. It's not my problem that what I post upsets the few Wii U owners we have in this forum.

I'd advise them to stay out of a thread called The Wii U is done and simply converse in the multiple other Nintendo threads. To each their own but don't get mad when someone lays waste to insane comments.

 

[Eradan]

It wouldn't be a problem if your responses weren't a lot of nonsense.

 

[next-Jin]

It wouldn't be a problem if your responses weren't a lot of nonsense.

Such as?

 

[Eradan]

Such as?

Other than the fact that I can't get FIFA, COD: Ghosts, or <insert third-party title of choice> for the Wii U, your incessant pedantry is irrelevant to those of us that are happy to play Nintendo's exclusives. Sales numbers are not relevant to me unless they affect Nintendo's ability to release their own AAA games. Sales do matter to those who view the console business as an opportunity to start another pissing match. Fanboys waving pom poms for Sony and Microsoft get off on putting down Nintendo like to point at sales figures as a sign that Nintendo is inferior. And a lot of people (not you) WANT Nintendo to fail (which completely baffles me--why?).

So keep preaching it, brother, as apparently you have a need to do so. But it doesn't matter unless Nintendo starts cancelling games I care about. You want to say it's done, not a major player? I say when does SSB and the new Zelda come out?

BTW--I'm looking forward to when you buy a Wii U. I'm genuinely interested in hearing what you think of it.

 

[Brownstone]

Wii U is not done, it may not be a success Nintendo hoped for. Personally, I am quite happy with how things are turning up for the Wii U gamewise. Its the perfect machine to complement my PC which is VR and competitive gaming oriented.

I've grown indiffernet of the same type of EXCLUSIVE games that have plagued last gen consoles and this gen. Those I feel are worth it (No Mans Sky for example) will look better on my PC and probably play with VR.

The day I cannot build a high end PC, I will find value with PS4 and X1. Right now I feel PC+Wii U is a great combo for gaming.

 

[demingo]

Sales numbers are not relevant to me unless they affect Nintendo's ability to release their own AAA games.

See, they do. When you figure that out you'll realize why it's important to have both high console sales and strong 3rd party support.

P.S. If you don't think its true, just take a look at missing arenas from MK8 battle mode. Another example would be the complete lack of new IPs and innovation. How many times can you rehash the same games/characters.

 

[Tephnos]

Pretty sure MK8 just bolstered a huge number of Wii U sales. I mean, I'm getting one for it.

 

[demingo]

Pretty sure MK8 just bolstered a huge number of Wii U sales. I mean, I'm getting one for it.

It did, It just didn't do nearly enough. Watch Dogs boosted PS4 sales more than MK8 boosted Wii U sales.

That isn't a good sign when you have a decent 3rd party game move more consoles than one of the premier first party games.

 

[Eradan]

It did, It just didn't do nearly enough. Watch Dogs boosted PS4 sales more than MK8 boosted Wii U sales.

That isn't a good sign when you have a decent 3rd party game move more consoles than one of the premier first party games.

The PS4 finally got something that wasn't an updated port from last gen (Tomb Raider) or a sequel to a worn-out franchise (COD, BF) so of course it sold well. People who bought in early have been begging for this since the console was released.

Why isn't it a good sign? How is it a bad sign? What difference does it make? As far as low Wii-U sales impacting the development of MK8, unless you have a source on this, you're speculating.

 

[Ruoh]

I got my Wii U last night. Got MK8, DKC and MW3D. Took Zelda as my freebie... and I've almost got platinum level in the Nintendo Club.

By the time the system was updated, and controllers charged it was pretty late, so we only played a little Mario World and MK8. Both were fun as hell, and a relief to hear the wife giggle (She's had a tough time with Davis and her kidney transplant status lately). It's going to be a great stress reliever for the two of us, and much less... "serious" than the XB1 and PS4. Getting six games, the console and a pro controller for $475 wasn't bad, either.

 

[Deleted member 83233]

How many times can you rehash the same games/characters.

Are you saying this isn't happening on every other platform in existence? CoD? Halo? Name any sports game?

The difference is, the long-running franchises from Nintendo are still fun to play, and they do evolve over time, while still keeping the things that brought people to them in the first place. If they're not your thing, cool, but they're of much higher quality than most of any franchise on the other consoles, and in no way are the other consoles offering anything new either. The whole industry is made of long-standing franchises now. The only companies making new IP are indie devs.

I'd rather play Nintendo franchises from the 80s than any current CoD re-skin... Call me crazy...

 

[Deleted member 83233]

I got my Wii U last night. Got MK8, DKC and MW3D. Took Zelda as my freebie... and I've almost got platinum level in the Nintendo Club.

By the time the system was updated, and controllers charged it was pretty late, so we only played a little Mario World and MK8. Both were fun as hell, and a relief to hear the wife giggle (She's had a tough time with Davis and her kidney transplant status lately). It's going to be a great stress reliever for the two of us, and much less... "serious" than the XB1 and PS4. Getting six games, the console and a pro controller for $475 wasn't bad, either.

Congrats, it's a lot of fun. Glad to hear it may do your wife some good too.

 

[next-Jin]

Other than the fact that I can't get FIFA, COD: Ghosts, or <insert third-party title of choice> for the Wii U, your incessant pedantry is irrelevant to those of us that are happy to play Nintendo's exclusives. Sales numbers are not relevant to me unless they affect Nintendo's ability to release their own AAA games. Sales do matter to those who view the console business as an opportunity to start another pissing match. Fanboys waving pom poms for Sony and Microsoft get off on putting down Nintendo like to point at sales figures as a sign that Nintendo is inferior. And a lot of people (not you) WANT Nintendo to fail (which completely baffles me--why?).

So keep preaching it, brother, as apparently you have a need to do so. But it doesn't matter unless Nintendo starts cancelling games I care about. You want to say it's done, not a major player? I say when does SSB and the new Zelda come out?

BTW--I'm looking forward to when you buy a Wii U. I'm genuinely interested in hearing what you think of it.

And that's perfectly fine Eradan, I've never questioned folks who say they enjoy the platform. People love Nintendo, I'm coming from the overall standpoint of the whole market.

You have to admit that it is a very interesting topic, I mean what other platform maker saw continued market loss every time they released a new console? Sega.

Sega fell quickly because of way too many consoles, and underperforming ones at that until Dreamcast but by then it was too late.

I'm not saying Nintendo is near that point but the overall trend is fascinating to say the least.

I plan on buying a Wii U if I can find it for about 150 used. If I have to I'll pick up MK8 prior to July 31st just to make sure I can get the free game. I'm not sure if I have to have a Wii U to register it but if I do I might not be able to do it the way I envision. Ultimately I want to get a Wii U with MK8, SM3D world, DK TF, and the new Zelda. Nothing else on be platform really interests me.

 

[Ruoh]

I plan on buying a Wii U if I can find it for about 150 used. If I have to I'll pick up MK8 prior to July 31st just to make sure I can get the free game. I'm not sure if I have to have a Wii U to register it but if I do I might not be able to do it the way I envision. Ultimately I want to get a Wii U with MK8, SM3D world, DK TF, and the new Zelda. Nothing else on be platform really interests me.

You can order a deluxe refurb on Nintendo's site for $200. I'd say that's still an excellent value.

The way I see it is that a good portion of the people that are getting the Wii U are those of us that are older, and are nostalgic about the Nintendo/SN/GB days. That would go hand in hand with the IP rehash that Nintendo goes for. I wonder if there's an age breakdown posted of players (Like Mii reported age, not just mom buying little Jimmy a console).

 

[next-Jin]

Are you saying this isn't happening on every other platform in existence? CoD? Halo? Name any sports game?

The difference is, the long-running franchises from Nintendo are still fun to play, and they do evolve over time, while still keeping the things that brought people to them in the first place. If they're not your thing, cool, but they're of much higher quality than most of any franchise on the other consoles, and in no way are the other consoles offering anything new either. The whole industry is made of long-standing franchises now. The only companies making new IP are indie devs.

I'd rather play Nintendo franchises from the 80s than any current CoD re-skin... Call me crazy...

I wouldn't say no new IPs, but no innovation and rehashing is happening across the board. The last time there was a renaissance in gaming was Mario 64 then probably GTA III and again with open world RPGs.

Other than mixing and matching or in Nintendos case refining damn if I know of any way of seriously innovating short of VR.

 

[Deleted member 83233]

I wouldn't say no new IPs, but no innovation and rehashing is happening across the board. The last time there was a renaissance in gaming was Mario 64 then probably GTA III and again with open world RPGs.

Other than mixing and matching or in Nintendos case refining damn if I know of any way of seriously innovating short of VR.

Yeah, it was a bit of an exaggeration, but I think the point stands. I actually really see no need to lose franchises that work. Obviously someone's enjoying them if they're still successful. On the other hand, it would be nice to see something new, or even a formula that hasn't been used in a while come back from the dead. I personally love simple shooters. HUGE id fan here. They just work for me. I will buy id games until id is no longer, or they finally make a game that I hate. (hasn't happened yet though) I love Nintendo franchises for the same reason. I've yet to play a bad one. However, I also play a lot of indie games, and that's where I tend to get my innovation or lost formula games.

Games like Monaco are quite innovative. The whole team-based heist thing with specialty characters, while it's been done, has not been done a lot, and not like this game. FEZ kind of redefine 2D platformers for me. It's not revolutionary (well I guess the mechanic is hehehe ) but it breathed some life into it. Pixeljunk Shooter and Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet brought back and evolved the old Defender/Fort Apocalypse-style rescue/explore space shooters of the early 80s. No Man's Sky looks like it's set to do something similar to space exploration games too. I guess you could call these refinements too, but they're also somewhat unique in how they do it. (so I'd almost call it innovation)

I'm off on the tangent now, but yeah, I agree. Refining is really what's happening right now all over the board. Some companies are doing it better than others.

 

[YeuEmMaiMai]

With no one to prove me wrong I'm not sure how you correlate that to Scientology considering it's a religion and religion is a belief in something unprovable. If anything that describes some of my opponents here.

The fundamental facts are that until Nintendo shows a sustained growth in console sales beyond even my expected numbers (over 100k a month for the next 7 years) it will meet the threads definition of being done.

- No third party support
- Distant third place
- Long droughts
- Lower sales than the next worst selling Nintendo console (GameCube)

It's only not "done" for people who actually bought the console. In everyone else's eyes and he market in general it's done.

I gott beat this down yet again

1. Nintendo consoles are not bought for thirdparty support, they are bought to play nintendo games
2. Distant third place? really? I think you got them confused with XBOX1
3. Long droughts? what do you consider long? a month? Just since release we got:

Mario Kart 8
Donky Kong Tropical Freeze
Dr Luigi
Game and Wario
Just Dance Wii U
Wii Fit U
lego city under cover
Mario and Sonic at the Olympics
NES remix
NES remix 2
Super Luigi U
Super Mario Brothers U
Super Mario World 3D
Ninja Gaiden
Nintendo Land
Pokemon Rumble U
Pickmin 3
Pushmo World
Sing Party
Legend of Zelda Wind Waker HD
Wii Party U

So in 19 months we got at least 21 games that I can recall off of the top of my head and this does not include titles that have not been released yet like Beyonetta 1 and 2, Super Smash Brothers, etc... all in 19 months? By your logic, MS and Sony should have at least 9 titles each that they worked on

worse sales than the gamecube? the what does that mean? absolutely nothing at this point in time....

BTW wii U has the LARGEST SOFTWARE library on the planet for a game console.... Wii games? check Virtual Console games? check

 

[next-Jin]

I gott beat this down yet again

1. Nintendo consoles are not bought for thirdparty support, they are bought to play nintendo games
2. Distant third place? really? I think you got them confused with XBOX1
3. Long droughts? what do you consider long? a month? Just since release we got:

Mario Kart 8
Donky Kong Tropical Freeze
Dr Luigi
Game and Wario
Just Dance Wii U
Wii Fit U
lego city under cover
Mario and Sonic at the Olympics
NES remix
NES remix 2
Super Luigi U
Super Mario Brothers U
Super Mario World 3D
Ninja Gaiden
Nintendo Land
Pokemon Rumble U
Pickmin 3
Pushmo World
Sing Party
Legend of Zelda Wind Waker HD
Wii Party U

So in 19 months we got at least 21 games that I can recall off of the top of my head and this does not include titles that have not been released yet like Beyonetta 1 and 2, Super Smash Brothers, etc... all in 19 months? By your logic, MS and Sony should have at least 9 titles each that they worked on

worse sales than the gamecube? the what does that mean? absolutely nothing at this point in time....

BTW wii U has the LARGEST SOFTWARE library on the planet for a game console.... Wii games? check Virtual Console games? check

1. True, but the market is showing signs that less and less people are willing to pay for it.
2. /face palm
3. Largest game library entails games specific to the platform. The vast majority of those are games no one cares about.

Releasing NES games and shovel ware is not even considered filler in my book.

 

[stevedave]

With no one to prove me wrong I'm not sure how you correlate that to Scientology considering it's a religion and religion is a belief in something unprovable. If anything that describes some of my opponents here.

The fundamental facts are that until Nintendo shows a sustained growth in console sales beyond even my expected numbers (over 100k a month for the next 7 years) it will meet the threads definition of being done.

- No third party support
- Distant third place
- Long droughts
- Lower sales than the next worst selling Nintendo console (GameCube)

It's only not "done" for people who actually bought the console. In everyone else's eyes and he market in general it's done.

Its exactly like scientology...nobody can prove them wrong as well. Regardless of what anyone says or what the facts are your opinion ,and maybe I should put some emphasis on OPINION with some all caps, won't change.

- Fire Emblem x SMT is not only third party it is a collaboration which is step beyond support.
- Not a distant Third Place this is a fact. But as you have proven you don't deal with facts.
- True for all systems.
- And the GameCube was still profitable so rather irrelevant.

Here are some facts for you. When Polled Nintendo was considered the winner at e3 by most everyone....some links sure here you go. Sure it didn't poll best on every site but even on the ones it didn't dominate it also was very fucking far from dead.
Link1
Link2
Link3

Wii-U has sold more units then Xbox1.
Link
Don't be lazy look at the sources.

MK8 alone sold 2 million......and no 2 million is not a small number.
Link


Are sales going to dip back down after MK8...yep. Does this mean the wii-u is a failure...Nope. Will the sales dip back up after things like SMB ....Yep.

I mean I could go on with evidence which contradicts your claim that Wii-u is dead....but like preaching science to a scientologist its no use.


you should critique my grammar it might help you feel right.

 

[stevedave]

I wouldn't say no new IPs, but no innovation and rehashing is happening across the board. The last time there was a renaissance in gaming was Mario 64 then probably GTA III and again with open world RPGs.

Other than mixing and matching or in Nintendos case refining damn if I know of any way of seriously innovating short of VR.

Free to play is a renaissance....League of Legends and Dota2 are huge....nothing really like them before them. Just because you don't know of it doesn't mean its not a big deal. I'd also consider Games like Professor Layton, Brain age, and Plants Vs Zombies highly innovative.

 

[Eradan]

And that's perfectly fine Eradan, I've never questioned folks who say they enjoy the platform. People love Nintendo, I'm coming from the overall standpoint of the whole market.

You have to admit that it is a very interesting topic, I mean what other platform maker saw continued market loss every time they released a new console? Sega.

Sega fell quickly because of way too many consoles, and underperforming ones at that until Dreamcast but by then it was too late.

I'm not saying Nintendo is near that point but the overall trend is fascinating to say the least.

I plan on buying a Wii U if I can find it for about 150 used. If I have to I'll pick up MK8 prior to July 31st just to make sure I can get the free game. I'm not sure if I have to have a Wii U to register it but if I do I might not be able to do it the way I envision. Ultimately I want to get a Wii U with MK8, SM3D world, DK TF, and the new Zelda. Nothing else on be platform really interests me.

Interesting? I guess it could be if there wasn't so much unwarranted disdain for Nintendo in the gaming community. Not putting you in that crowd--you've been very clear about that. I resent this thread's title, though, because it sounds like more hate-speak. I don't understand why people can't just enjoy the games or why it has to turn into a fanboy contest.

Sure, if you want to have a discussion about Nintendo's future, as it is affected by the Wii U, great. But I'd prefer to do it with no negativity.

 

[Deleted member 83233]

I don't understand why people can't just enjoy the games or why it has to turn into a fanboy contest.

Because, that in itself is a game. Not a very fun one mind you, but I think that's about how it fits unconsciously with the people that do it. Debating CAN actually be a bit fun, but yeah, a lot of time it descends into hate, and then it's just ugly. It really all just comes down to the size of the penis... ok joking... well, actually sometimes I think it might be... or maybe that's just debating over trucks.

 

[YeuEmMaiMai]

1. True, but the market is showing signs that less and less people are willing to pay for it.
2. /face palm
3. Largest game library entails games specific to the platform. The vast majority of those are games no one cares about.

Releasing NES games and shovel ware is not even considered filler in my book.

lol you are kidding

By your logic no one wants xbox one...

Wii games ARE specific to the platform, The Wii U plays them perfectly PS4 and Xbone are not backwards compatable

 

[next-Jin]

Its exactly like scientology...nobody can prove them wrong as well. Regardless of what anyone says or what the facts are your opinion ,and maybe I should put some emphasis on OPINION with some all caps, won't change.

- Fire Emblem x SMT is not only third party it is a collaboration which is step beyond support.
- Not a distant Third Place this is a fact. But as you have proven you don't deal with facts.
- True for all systems.
- And the GameCube was still profitable so rather irrelevant.

Here are some facts for you. When Polled Nintendo was considered the winner at e3 by most everyone....some links sure here you go. Sure it didn't poll best on every site but even on the ones it didn't dominate it also was very fucking far from dead.
Link1
Link2
Link3

Wii-U has sold more units then Xbox1.
Link
Don't be lazy look at the sources.

MK8 alone sold 2 million......and no 2 million is not a small number.
Link


Are sales going to dip back down after MK8...yep. Does this mean the wii-u is a failure...Nope. Will the sales dip back up after things like SMB ....Yep.

I mean I could go on with evidence which contradicts your claim that Wii-u is dead....but like preaching science to a scientologist its no use.


you should critique my grammar it might help you feel right.

Such a long post for misunderstanding what the topic revolves around. The Wii U won't be dead for at least another 2 years if not 3.

That's great that the Wii U is ahead, but it's going to be surpassed this year and that gap will only widen with time. They had a year head start, put it in context with game releases and sales numbers. Being done is not the same as being dead, if Nintendo pulled support from it this year it would kill their trust.

I even said Nintendo won this E3, that doesn't change the conversation, MK8 selling 2 million means nothing if it doesn't move hardware. Which is why I have been saying if Nintendo sells more than 100k in June it would be a good thing, but even at 100k a month the console would still be struggling to keep up even over the next 4 years let alone the time it would take to overtake GameCube life time sales.

The GameCube still being profitable again doesn't mean much when their consoles are trending worse every single time with the exception of the Wii. Do you expect Nintendo to have their next console sell only 12 million and still be profitable? What about the one following that only sells 8 million? They have burned through 4-5 billion since the launch of the 3DS and Wii U.

 

[next-Jin]

lol you are kidding

By your logic no one wants xbox one...

Wii games ARE specific to the platform, The Wii U plays them perfectly PS4 and Xbone are not backwards compatable

It doesn't matter they are specific to the platform, those games don't sell hardware. Look at the Vita or how super excited people are for PS Now. People want original content specific to the platform that is not shovel ware. It's nice they put those games there but no one buys a Wii U to play Wii, GameCube or NES games.

 

[YeuEmMaiMai]

^vita was never a contender, and that system has been basically abandoned by Sony... Wii U has not been abandoned by Nintendo....

and YES backwards compatibility does sell hardware...

I stand by my original assessment that the economy is not to the point where consoles are going to sell like hotcakes and that MS and Sony are seeing results similar to Nintendo. IE OK sales at launch and then massive fall off. MS has already had to drop the Kinect and Sony should be close to releasing a cost reduced version of the PS4...

 

[demingo]

I stand by my original assessment that the economy is not to the point where consoles are going to sell like hotcakes and that MS and Sony are seeing results similar to Nintendo. IE OK sales at launch and then massive fall off. MS has already had to drop the Kinect and Sony should be close to releasing a cost reduced version of the PS4...

I have no idea why you keep spewing this fud. Both the PS4 and XO are out selling the PS3/360 in the same time frame. Sales of this gen are better than last. You really need to check into reality.

PS3 - 10 months - 5.5 million
PS4 - 8 months - 8.1 million

Xbox 360 - 8 months - 3.2 million
Xbox One - 8 months - 4.6 million

You should really do a Google search before making claims like that.

 

[Zohar78]

I have no idea why you keep spewing this fud. Both the PS4 and XO are out selling the PS3/360 in the same time frame. Sales of this gen are better than last. You really need to check into reality.

PS3 - 10 months - 5.5 million
PS4 - 8 months - 8.1 million

Xbox 360 - 8 months - 3.2 million
Xbox One - 8 months - 4.6 million

You should really do a Google search before making claims like that.

isnt the ps4 beating wii sales to?

 

[demingo]

isnt the ps4 beating wii sales to?

Yep, and if you look at sales pace, the XO is selling faster than the Wii U when accounting for time on market.

The Wii U is also the only console selling at a worse pace than it's predecessor.

Year to date in 2014, the PS3 and X360 have both outsold the Wii U.

Not mater how you look at it, Wii U sales aren't pretty.

 

[Eradan]

I have no idea why you keep spewing this fud. Both the PS4 and XO are out selling the PS3/360 in the same time frame. Sales of this gen are better than last. You really need to check into reality.

PS3 - 10 months - 5.5 million
PS4 - 8 months - 8.1 million

Xbox 360 - 8 months - 3.2 million
Xbox One - 8 months - 4.6 million

You should really do a Google search before making claims like that.

And? Also the longest window between generation release by several years. If you want to forecast that LTD sales will surpass last generation, you're welcome to do so, but who knows if that will happen or not.

Why don't you Google search the terms "conjecture" and "fanboy"?

 

[DaRat]

The GameCube still being profitable again doesn't mean much when their consoles are trending worse every single time with the exception of the Wii. Do you expect Nintendo to have their next console sell only 12 million and still be profitable? What about the one following that only sells 8 million? They have burned through 4-5 billion since the launch of the 3DS and Wii U.

You keep saying with the exception of the Wii. You can't exclude it. It was their successor to gamecube and it fucking raped the sales of Nintendos previous systems, and the competition. The only reason you choose to exclude it is because it invalidates the point you are trying to make.

I expect Nintendo to make quality games for the Wii U for the next few years; then create a handheld/console hybrid system that will be what everyone has always wanted.