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Oh crap, here we go. :eek:

There is no denying that Linux, when well-hidden, has great value. I very quite enjoy all my Android devices as well as my Chromebook. I've been a very happy (well, except when they break down every two years) TiVo user for more than a decade. But there's a difference between using Linux like a random Ford purchaser uses a carburetor (like an embedded part) and using Linux as Linux. First off, Linux fans are crazy.
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LOL, good read..

Can't say I disagree with any of it either.

I've "dabbled" a little with Linux, and tried a number of different distros. In the end, I always end up going back to Windows. Mostly due to gaming, but his points about series application support do ring true.

That said.. I do have high hopes for SteamOS as a gaming OS alternative.
 
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What Linux really needs (and the fan boys will protest) is to be made easier to use for the layman. Ubuntu is pretty streamlined these days, but having just played with SteamOS recently, I forgot how big of a headache and unintuitive Linux was to use at times. The terminal should really go away... as in, the average user should never have to touch it... but keep it available for the Geeks/PowerUsers/Admins/etc, much like the command prompt in windows or terminal in MacOS.

There is no reason why someone should need extensive knowledge of the terminal to operate a GUI based OS. Linux can be sort of trouble-free with the right distro and hardware config... but when shit inevitably hits the fan it's usually really messy unless you're very proficient with the OS.
 
It was worth reading the article just for the video "Linux is Free, and full of Love" ... the Linux folks are such rebels it would be fun if Linux became mass market just so they would have to abandon it for some other niche product :D
 
What a douchebag that guy is.

Tons of people I work with are discovering Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Kubuntu and really enjoying it. Apparently they are all much smarter than this author.
 
Seriously, this was just a bunch of, "Because I like Windows better!" Very little in the way of actual reasons.

1) Linux zealots
2) Configuration problems (THAT CAN'T HAPPEN ON WINDOWS!)
3) Linux zealots
4) Never tried OpenOffice
5) It's not as pretty as Windows
 
Hating on Linux is always guaranteed hits from the Linux crowd, low hanging fruit.

You can't deny that the Linux community is filled with some very vocal nutters.
 
ClariorHincHonos said:
What a douchebag that guy is.

Tons of people I work with are discovering Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Kubuntu and really enjoying it. Apparently they are all much smarter than this author.
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Or have more time maybe? I honestly can't be bothered. What little time I have for "quiet time" on the PC at home is spent having some fun gaming online with friends. As such, Windows 7 is the perfect OS for me. It just works; no hassle, no learning curve.

That and I'd agree that the Linux community isn't the most friendly in the world either. I started to tinker with it a couple of years ago, but the question or 2 I asked in the Linux forums I found were met with a vehement "your question is stupid and so are you."

Cool. I'll go back to shooting heads then.
 
As long as Linux:
1. Lacks corporate productivity software
2. Lacks out-of-the-box compatibility with almost all devices (as in literally out of the box, not having to enable custom drivers etc)
3. Prominently uses the terminal window.

Its never going to come close to replacing Windows. Android does almost all of the above, which is why its doing so well.

Though Valve may help tremendously with number 2 and 3, which in turn will help with 1, if SteamOS is successful.
 
And if you work in a finance related job, anything other than MS Office (and excel more specifically) just won't do.
 
Really, the Linux community that can't figure out what Linux wants to be is what is holding back Linux the most. Linux fans will espouse that everyone should drop Windows because Linux is so much better and yet will deride and look down upon anyone that can't write a driver or configure an installation or even install a program. You can't have it both ways. Either Linux overtakes windows because it is free, runs everything people want to run, easy to use and everything is done with the GUI, and basically idiot proof... or Linux remains a niche OS for geeks that can feel comfortable in their smug superiority in knowing how to script and run half the os from a command prompt unlike the average windows user. They try to do both with different distributions... and I've lost track of how many new distributions that have come out being hailed as *the one that shall kill windows*... but it hasn't worked in the 25 years I've been in the tech industry and I don't see it changing tomorrow.
 
PCunicorn said:
That's not a hundred reasons, n00b.

2 reasons to stay with Windows 8: Amazing fluid design and extremely fast.
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To me there is nothing fluid about Windows 8, at times you don't even know if your in an app or a program, the way you interact with an app and program are different. Unless fluid means something else I'd be hard pressed to agree with you.
 
There really wasn't very much to the article. It just seemed like a hunk of red meat thrown out to see what pack of animals would attack first.

Four of the five points were about feeling or emotional arguments and the one good argument was delivered poorly and really isn't a problem anymore. You don't get 20% of school laptops being Chrome driven if there really was a major problem with productivity from a common consumer perspective. People are replacing laptops with tablets today.

There were some things that I had to scratch my head at. Dropbox has offered single click packages for quite a while now. So I don't know what his issue was.

The problems with the server crashing? Well where is your backup? This isn't unique to Linux, or at least I hope he doesn't think that.

In terms of people being douches in the Linux community? Well I agree to an extent. A lot of it though depends on where you seek help. If you go to Ubuntu forums people are often just as inexperieced so they really don't have much in the way of attitude.

Oh well, nothing to see I guess. I was hoping the article would have provided some good examples.
 
RealityCrunch said:
To qualify for the extremely adjective, I'd say a minimum of a 50% performance increase would be required in all areas of operation (launching apps, CPU tasks, etc). How much faster IS Win8 than Win7? :p
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Not that much, but I can tell you there is a very noticeable performance advantage for Win 8 over Win 7 on the same hardware, especially for system boot. Performance is really one of the only reasons I use Win 8 over Win 7, although I have to say 8.1 eliminated most of my issues with Win 8. If you don't mind learning a few new ways to do things and you want a small but noticeable performance boost, go with win 8.1, otherwise there is no reason to upgrade.
 
#1 Choice is good and its surprising how well software works between the distros for the most part.

#2 Setting things up on Linux is pretty easy with a package manager. Don't know what he is talking about. I can set up a development computer to write software in like an hour in Linux. On the other hand when I worked on a Windows machine, any computer that wasn't mine was useless. I had nightmares on losing all my configuration, programs, registry settings, to make Windows useful for developing on. If my hard drive crashed and there was no back up I would consider suicide.

#3 pretty much nut balls, but there is tons of help.

#4 You are pretty good as long as you aren't an Adobe addict. Not a fan of GIMP, but you can do most things if you don't rely on other people's macros to do the work for you. Office works through wine. My real work is software development and Linux completely fulfills my needs for it. I am not surprised that troll bait bloggers need Windows to do work.

#5 Likes Windows 8 touch OS on non touch systems, lost all credibility for me there.

5 Good reasons to run windows 8 (or 7)
1. Larger game/software selection
2. AMD graphic drivers are so horrible that there really is no competition in Linux
3. Visual Studio is nice
4. Some HTPC capabilities aren't on Linux because it isn't infested with DRM
5. Rest of the work pretty much expects you to; its really annoying talking to cable tech support for 30 minutes until they will send someone to check your signal or re-provision.
 
BreezeDM said:
5 Good reasons to run windows 8 (or 7)
1. Larger game/software selection
2. AMD graphic drivers are so horrible that there really is no competition in Linux
3. Visual Studio is nice
4. Some HTPC capabilities aren't on Linux because it isn't infested with DRM
5. Rest of the work pretty much expects you to; its really annoying talking to cable tech support for 30 minutes until they will send someone to check your signal or re-provision.
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See these are far better reasons and I don't think I have a problem with any of them.
 
dr.stevil said:
What Linux really needs (and the fan boys will protest) is to be made easier to use for the layman. Ubuntu is pretty streamlined these days, but having just played with SteamOS recently, I forgot how big of a headache and unintuitive Linux was to use at times. The terminal should really go away... as in, the average user should never have to touch it... but keep it available for the Geeks/PowerUsers/Admins/etc, much like the command prompt in windows or terminal in MacOS.

There is no reason why someone should need extensive knowledge of the terminal to operate a GUI based OS. Linux can be sort of trouble-free with the right distro and hardware config... but when shit inevitably hits the fan it's usually really messy unless you're very proficient with the OS.
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I think you make a lot of valid points. My feeling and experience with Linux is that it can be a royal pain when you're updating or upgrading. Often applications break when updating and if you upgrade to a newer version of the OS you may wind up with an unusable system. For those reasons, I like the terminal because it allows you to fix things fairly quickly, but that's horrible for most people.

Like many people I run Unix and Linux servers in my home. I use XBMC for my HTPC and that's Linux, but it also has issues now and then and I've had to reinstall. That being said, I can do a lot of cool things with it that may cost a lot more if I were using windows only.
 
xX326Xx said:
To me there is nothing fluid about Windows 8, at times you don't even know if your in an app or a program, the way you interact with an app and program are different. Unless fluid means something else I'd be hard pressed to agree with you.
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sounds like you need to do a better job of setting what programs you use then. When I read your post here it reads to me as "I am too fucking retarded to use a computer"

I find it pretty fluid to go from one program to another. I don't notice any programs that work vastly different that I would expect. Nor have I ever been stuck not knowing what program (or app) I am currently running.
 
I kind of agree with those points, except it's a bad comparison to make, it would be better to compare Linux and Windows (not just a specific version) or perhaps Windows 8 and Ubuntu with Gnome 3 (Gnome 3 being basically, Metro for Linux).

I do agree there needs to be more organization with Linux though. Everything is all over the place. There needs to be a unified package manger, a unified way things are done in the GUI, a unified way to make computers part of a network (like a Domain) and don't get me started with the archaic permission system. That wont work in the business world, when Sally from HR wants Bill from finance to be able to write, but not delete, to a list of folders, but George should be able to see all those files, but only read, etc.... if you've worked IT you'll know what I mean, businesses want some really complex permission schemes on folders. Linux permissions just don't cut it. They BADLY need to implement permission inheritance too. I should be able to make a folder and no matter who writes to it, it takes on the same permissions that I specify it should take. This should also be doable by right clicking on it, not typing some setfacl or chmod or chown commands. Even on my home network I get frustrated trying to use different users for different tasks and try to make the files accessible throughout, and end up just saying fuck it and using root.

Overall I do prefer Linux, but I'd be hypocrite if I did not say it needs lot of work. It does.
 
dr.stevil said:
What Linux really needs (and the fan boys will protest) is to be made easier to use for the layman. Ubuntu is pretty streamlined these days, but having just played with SteamOS recently, I forgot how big of a headache and unintuitive Linux was to use at times. The terminal should really go away... as in, the average user should never have to touch it... but keep it available for the Geeks/PowerUsers/Admins/etc, much like the command prompt in windows or terminal in MacOS.

There is no reason why someone should need extensive knowledge of the terminal to operate a GUI based OS. Linux can be sort of trouble-free with the right distro and hardware config... but when shit inevitably hits the fan it's usually really messy unless you're very proficient with the OS.
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Using Ubuntu as a distro can you give me an example where you are forced to use the terminal? Most people give terminal commands because it's easier. You can copy and paste instructions and as long as the person has a high enough IQ to cut and paste usually the outcome is a success.

In many ways it's the same with Windows and MacOS. If the crap really does hit the fan with Windows you will need to go to the command line because you may not have a GUI that loads properly.
 
dr.stevil said:
What Linux really needs (and the fan boys will protest) is to be made easier to use for the layman. Ubuntu is pretty streamlined these days, but having just played with SteamOS recently, I forgot how big of a headache and unintuitive Linux was to use at times. The terminal should really go away... as in, the average user should never have to touch it... but keep it available for the Geeks/PowerUsers/Admins/etc, much like the command prompt in windows or terminal in MacOS.

There is no reason why someone should need extensive knowledge of the terminal to operate a GUI based OS. Linux can be sort of trouble-free with the right distro and hardware config... but when shit inevitably hits the fan it's usually really messy unless you're very proficient with the OS.
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I built a computer out of some parts laying around for my son and I didn't feel like buying a new Windows key for a 'play around' computer. Never have 'really' used Linux before I decided to give Mint 15 Cinnamon a try on it - and never looked back. Out of the box I found more things 'just work' on Mint than they do in Windows, plus there is a lot of free opensource software that I can't really complain about. Installing drivers is made pretty easy and no need for terminal. If something does go bad, sodu commands are pretty easy to find on the net. Worst case if shit hits the fan that bad, re-install. It happens with Windows too. I have found it's almost harder to REALLY mess stuff up in Mint than in Windows. When you start messing around with sudo commands when you don't know what you are doing; that's where you run into problems. The very first dumb thing I tried to do with Linux (having never used it before) was install nvidia drivers from a downloaded file using terminal sodu. That was a Windows user mistake! hehehe Then I realized the GUI could help me out with that while I learned. I still have a Windows gaming rig, but for everyday use I have already converted the Wife's computer to Mint and she hasn't complained. That's my little new to Linux rant anyway. Not a fanboy but, working on it. :D
 
Lets argue the same shit over and over and over again.

No one posting in this thread is going to be able to prove themselves correct or anyone else wrong, no one's opinions are going to be changed. Total waste of time replying. (Including my time spent writing this post, :sigh:)

Only winner here is ZDNet for trolling and getting idiots to click link to see article.
 
pcjunkie said:
Metro and the 100 worthless apps for desktop users.

/end thread
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If only there was some magical way to uninstall those worthless apps, or some magical software to bring the start menu back for the inefficient whiners out there that refuse to change.....

Got anymore useless silly reasons for me to respond to or are you done being a forum parrot, repeating the same crap in any windows 8 threads?
 
I already have five computers running Windows 7 Pro.

Why waste the Money, and time, changing to Windows 8, or 8.1, only to find out that Microsoft will force me to keep all my personal data on the "Cloud", or a "Skydrive", where it will all be "Hacked", and Stolen, eventually?
 
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