The Altcoin Thread

Wow. So I just tried something and was semi dumbfounded by the results. I under clocked my 3770K to its stock speeds (turned turbo off, so it ran at 1.6 ghz), downvolted to .9 and turned off all but 1 core. It used about 80 watts more than when I put it back to 1.254 volts, 4.5ghz and all cores enabled. Interesting. I guess there is a sweet spot, but for now I'll take it how it is.
 
what are you doing on it? could it be ALL the cores running solve problems so fast then shut themselves down?
 
mkrohn said:
as much as everybody likes to call them craptsy they really are the best you'll find out there short of a couple that are JUST BTC like coinbase and gox
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Honestly - I think as far as trading platforms go, CoinEx is far and away THE BEST exchange out there. Sure, they have a few bugs to work out, but they are the only really responsive realtime exchange that I know of with a good number of coin markets out there.

Cryptsy is numero uno in terms of sheer volume and markets though. Their speed leaves something to be desired.
 
mkrohn said:
what are you doing on it? could it be ALL the cores running solve problems so fast then shut themselves down?
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That's probably it, and I think cgminer needs a tiny bit of Cpu power. I guess overall windows in the background still needs the CPU for some stuff. The best would probably to run Linux and down clock it.
 
I have not had any issues with coins-e till now. Granted I have been at this for less then a month.
 
xIronCrossx said:
Just wondering about powered risers. Does a x1 to x16 work in an x16 slot? Seems the x16 to x16 risers aren't really in stock anywhere anymore.
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Actually not all slots.

I have a motherboard where a 1x will not work in one of the 16x slots but works fine in the other.

(16x to 16x works fine in the "bad" slot)

I had to order my risers directly from China via aliexpress.

Took a full darn month to get here, very frustrating. But only $5 each and very high quality compared to the ebay ones. Thick wires, dual capacitors, good quality soldering.

If you order a few, remember to order more than you need, risers seem to fail eventually.
 
vibe said:
Actually not all slots.

I have a motherboard where a 1x will not work in one of the 16x slots but works fine in the other.

(16x to 16x works fine in the "bad" slot)

I had to order my risers directly from China via aliexpress.

Took a full darn month to get here, very frustrating. But only $5 each and very high quality compared to the ebay ones. Thick wires, dual capacitors, good quality soldering.

If you order a few, remember to order more than you need, risers seem to fail eventually.
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Did you try jumping the 2 pins on the slot when running 1x risers.
 
SunnyD said:
Cryptsy unfortunately, though I've been using CoinEx for most of my business lately.
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Unfortunately I have to concur with Craptsy being the most popular exchange so far. I've only used Coinex when selling MOON so far, it was pretty straight forward. Transactions were pretty fast.

I also still use Vircurex for the odd transaction as well. They don't have the number of trading pairs Cryptsy does, but deposits and withdrawals are handled a lot faster. That, and their pricing is sometimes a bit different than Cryptsy so it is sometimes possible to get a better price if you're selling something they handle.
 
Coinedup is my favorite if I want a really quick sale. Deposits and withdrawals are insanely fast. Great place to dump shit coins when they hit their first exchange
 
xIronCrossx said:
That's probably it, and I think cgminer needs a tiny bit of Cpu power. I guess overall windows in the background still needs the CPU for some stuff. The best would probably to run Linux and down clock it.
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I run with the powersave governor to force the lowest CPU frequency and that shaved off about 20 watts, w/o sacrificing hashrates. (This is with an old AMD dual-core Opteron.)
 
Well, to be honest, I'm kinda using the wrong stuff for power saving heh. 4 SSD's, a hard drive, 6 fans, AIO on the CPU...yeah. I'm OK with it though, ~510 watts with the 2 7950's and 2 monitors still attached (have some resistors on the way).
 
blade52x said:
Alright guys, here's the next mine ASAP and sell for BTC right away coin

"Coinye West" (COYE)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=396068.0
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OMG! You know I really thought this was a joke until I actually saw that one of the pools I use for another coin has a pool up for COYE. Bah! Another failure in the making. Everyone signs up mines the crap out of it and then tries to trade it with one another thinking it's going to be the next millionaire maker. It starts off strong... ppl are paying almost a whole BTC for 2.5M COYE. But two weeks later, they'll be wondering why it's worth 0.00000001 BTC. And even after all the lessons of MOONcoin and DOGEcoin and CATcoin and LOTtocoin, I am dumbfounded that there are still those who think this is one you can hold for 6 months and have it be worth something. Ya, good luck with that.
 
xIronCrossx said:
That's probably it, and I think cgminer needs a tiny bit of Cpu power. I guess overall windows in the background still needs the CPU for some stuff. The best would probably to run Linux and down clock it.
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Those crappy sempron 140's are enough power for it though.
 
Carbon_Rod said:
OMG! You know I really thought this was a joke until I actually saw that one of the pools I use for another coin has a pool up for COYE. Bah! Another failure in the making. Everyone signs up mines the crap out of it and then tries to trade it with one another thinking it's going to be the next millionaire maker. It starts off strong... ppl are paying almost a whole BTC for 2.5M COYE. But two weeks later, they'll be wondering why it's worth 0.00000001 BTC. And even after all the lessons of MOONcoin and DOGEcoin and CATcoin and LOTtocoin, I am dumbfounded that there are still those who think this is one you can hold for 6 months and have it be worth something. Ya, good luck with that.
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Only dogecoin has potential because its community is actively trying to get it accepted in many places. I think the goal is to make it a universal online tipping currency. Just because it started as a joke doesnt mean it still is one. The rest of those are just riding the coattails of the jokecoin and will all die. Actually i think coinye is already dying.
 
Dogecoin will probably become the bronze level against Litecoin's silver to BTC gold.

Has anyone tried one of the multipools for automatic btc conversion or is it more profitable to trade manually?
 
nvgrim said:
Only dogecoin has potential because its community is actively trying to get it accepted in many places. I think the goal is to make it a universal online tipping currency. Just because it started as a joke doesnt mean it still is one. The rest of those are just riding the coattails of the jokecoin and will all die. Actually i think coinye is already dying.
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DOGE will die because it is simply stupid. There honestly isn't any point in so many currencies. There's room for 2-4 and BTC and LTC are certainly the only two that have a true point in existing. Look at how far down you can go with the decimal on BTC. I can buy a $10 giftcard from gyft.com easy enough with BTC. There will never be a point in somewhere like amazon accepting anything other than BTC. Anybody holding real money in DOGE is an idiot. That said it doesn't hurt to have chump change like say 100k DOGE sitting there as a 1000000000000000000000000000000000:1 bet.

I am glad places like multipool are finally getting off DOGE. I was getting sick of seeing those even come across my screen.
 
vibe said:
Dogecoin will probably become the bronze level against Litecoin's silver to BTC gold.

Has anyone tried one of the multipools for automatic btc conversion or is it more profitable to trade manually?
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middlecoin is the only thing that auto converts to BTC that I've seen and yes I've used it quite a bit. I was playing with multipool for a bit but you still have to handle all the converting to BTC and just isn't worth the effort. I am either going to just mine LTC or use middlecoin which sucks on the lower power cards with way higher reject rates than on fast cards. so for ME putting all of the lower powered cards on LTC is just the best move because of pool quality
 
mkrohn said:
DOGE will die because it is simply stupid. There honestly isn't any point in so many currencies. There's room for 2-4 and BTC and LTC are certainly the only two that have a true point in existing. Look at how far down you can go with the decimal on BTC. I can buy a $10 giftcard from gyft.com easy enough with BTC. There will never be a point in somewhere like amazon accepting anything other than BTC. Anybody holding real money in DOGE is an idiot. That said it doesn't hurt to have chump change like say 100k DOGE sitting there as a 1000000000000000000000000000000000:1 bet.

I am glad places like multipool are finally getting off DOGE. I was getting sick of seeing those even come across my screen.
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DOGE is trending slowly up, and Multipool has 6k MH/s on it. Surprised to see WDC drop that far below DOGE on profitability though.
 
I think I'm going back to being "part of the problem" for a little while - going back to middlecoin. I heard their payouts have gotten a bit smaller as of late, namely because there's one guy with 600MHash/s and another with 160MHash/s on it, but also because they've just about singlehandedly ruined the stability of most of the profitable crapcoins lately by screwing with the difficulties on a rapid basis. But I want to see where they stand as of right now, whether they're more profitable still than trying to sift through all the trash by hand.
 
oblox said:
Did you try jumping the 2 pins on the slot when running 1x risers.
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Are you talking about this? http://i.imgur.com/AZRt383.jpg

I guess there is some logic to the idea of when using a 16x slot as 1x to do that.

Have to find a nice secure piece of wire to use though, don't want that getting loose.


SunnyD said:
and another with 160MHash/s on it
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160Mhash of scrypt hash? holy cow that would be like like two hundred 7950 cards ?!

Wait, is it this guy? http://i.imgur.com/T5BbvrG.jpg
I think he is from around this forum, no?

Maybe this one http://imgur.com/a/olq6e (the extension cords on this one freaks me out every time)
 
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vibe said:
Are you talking about this? http://i.imgur.com/AZRt383.jpg

I guess there is some logic to the idea of when using a 16x slot as 1x to do that.

Have to find a nice secure piece of wire to use though, don't want that getting loose.




160Mhash of scrypt hash? holy cow that would be like like two hundred 7950 cards ?!

Wait, is it this guy? http://i.imgur.com/T5BbvrG.jpg
I think he is from around this forum, no?

Maybe this one http://imgur.com/a/olq6e (the extension cords on this one freaks me out every time)
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Jebus power bill :eek:
 
jjandrob said:
can you provide a little more information?
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What do you want to know?

Basically, I found a fairly new altcoin that I am actually interested in, pretty low hype, not a lot of people jumping on it (it doesn't really have anything "special" going for it - it just seems like a fairly "fair" coin). No premine, not really instamine either. Low difficulty at the moment until more people start piling on. The couple pools that were set up seem to be having issues, so solo is the only real way to go.

So far I've hit 8 blocks all to myself since last night. I actually hit probably 10, but two disappeared that I know of. And I've probably had just as many rejected as well.

I doubt this will be worth anything in the long run, but it's pretty cool anyway.
 
SunnyD said:
What do you want to know?

Basically, I found a fairly new altcoin that I am actually interested in, pretty low hype, not a lot of people jumping on it (it doesn't really have anything "special" going for it - it just seems like a fairly "fair" coin). No premine, not really instamine either. Low difficulty at the moment until more people start piling on. The couple pools that were set up seem to be having issues, so solo is the only real way to go.

So far I've hit 8 blocks all to myself since last night. I actually hit probably 10, but two disappeared that I know of. And I've probably had just as many rejected as well.

I doubt this will be worth anything in the long run, but it's pretty cool anyway.
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nice! has the coin hit an exchange yet? what type of kh/s does your farm generate? Always thought you needed a lot of rigs or a fair amount of mh/s for it to be worth it.
 
jjandrob said:
nice! has the coin hit an exchange yet? what type of kh/s does your farm generate? Always thought you needed a lot of rigs or a fair amount of mh/s for it to be worth it.
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Nope. The coin just launched I think a day or two ago. I doubt it will see an exchange for a while. It's KlondikeCoin if anyone cares. I'm definitely not trying to hide it, apologies if I made it seem that way. After all, the more "popular" it gets, the more its worth, right?

My current mining only is small fries - 1.25MHash/s. Slowly collecting parts to put a second machine together to roughly double that. But when you get sub-1.0 difficulties, solo mining can definitely be worth it.
 
I always figured solo mining can only work really if the difficulty is in the single digits.

Otherwise you may just be spinning your wheels.

I was a 3rd day dogecoin miner and solo was already nearly impossible.
 
Vengance_01 said:
Jebus power bill :eek:
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I could easily see them get raided with someone thinking they were doing something illegal using that much power. Those power drops also look a bit dicey for 8-10 rigs.

I also laugh at the little rotating fan on the floor in one of the photos, like that is going to do anything.

They must be very up north somewhere. Snowy, moist air is not good for electronics though.
 
Well I am not using Coins-E any more! As a test I sent 100 doge coins to my account thinking they resolved the issues and nothing again. WTF! Address is good. I have updated my client to 1.4 and even re-downloaded all the blocks data after the 1.4 update. Trying Cryptsy now.
 
Darksieg said:
Guys just to let you know amazon is taking orders for MSI 290 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HPS4AFG/ref=gno_cart_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER shipped 3-5 weeks though.

Edit : These are custom fans and only $469 if you order thru Amazon not 3rd party.
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for mining those fans will be WORSE so I'd avoid it

If somebody just wants cards now go grab 7850's and 270's. I popped 4 7850's in last night and without tuning (default clocks) every card is above 350k. 4 7850's are running on a 600w PSU all fairly close together and staying under 70c in an 87F room
 
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Well meh. Nothing makes sense to me anymore today. I flashed a new bios onto my Gigabyte 7950 (that lowered volts to 1.092 instead of 1.25)..and the power usage didn't move one bit. It did go up overall though since I moved the gigabyte out with a riser and gave the Twin Frozr more space so it can now run a bit OC'ed, but still undervolted (.950mV and 1000/1250).
 
xIronCrossx said:
Well meh. Nothing makes sense to me anymore today. I flashed a new bios onto my Gigabyte 7950 (that lowered volts to 1.092 instead of 1.25)..and the power usage didn't move one bit. It did go up overall though since I moved the gigabyte out with a riser and gave the Twin Frozr more space so it can now run a bit OC'ed, but still undervolted (.950mV and 1000/1250).
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Does atitweak show the voltage is actually lower?
And I assume you cold rebooted.

1000mhz on .95 is impressive.
Wish they would just voltage unlock all the cards, why make it so hard, and impossible under linux.
 
vibe said:
Does atitweak show the voltage is actually lower?
And I assume you cold rebooted.

1000mhz on .95 is impressive.
Wish they would just voltage unlock all the cards, why make it so hard, and impossible under linux.
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Using GPU-Z, yeah it does show 1.090mV when in use. Really frustrating, maybe I'll disconnect some of my extra SSD's and HDD.

As for the Twin Frozr..That card is the weirdest I have used. It would artifact in games at higher settings with higher voltages..but it seems to mine like a champ without any hardware errors. I don't think it would be perfectly stable in gaming, I had the voltage at .975mV before and it got like 10 kh/s more(same settings otherwise), but that was like 20 watts.
 
I'm trying out this coin called "Noble" right now. It seems to have flown under the radar with COYE taking all of the attention. The only thing I don't like about it the 2% premine. But the dev seems to be handing out a lot. I figure I'll give it a quick go like I did with DOGE, 2-3 days of mining and then back to WDC (my main alt coin to mine now).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=402667.0

I did receive 20,000 of these for free from the dev so worst case just post and get some free coins. ;)
 
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I tried that, but I don't know. Klondike seems OK too..way too many coins now, so hard to choose what to mine :(
 
I just hop around. Mining coins early and trading them out is one of the more profitable ways to mine. Even if you don't make anything off one, if the time you spend mining new coins at low difficulty overall ends up being more profitable than even mining at pool switching coins.

What I look at doing is mining, trading out 50% at at least LTC mining prices (it's usually more anyway), and then keeping the other 50% on the house just in case the long haul ends up working out. ;)
 
I just wanted to point out for anyone still avoiding it, Cryptsy has really stepped up its game in the past couple days. Apparently there were some significant backend upgrades done and transaction times have been improved by a very significant amount. At this point I almost don't think I would feel comfortable calling them "Craptsy" anymore.
 
Check out these new style of risers that use a usb 3.0 cable (via pci-e signal) for much better shielding and better air flow:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=392536

apparently you can get really long lengths out of them too

If I have to re-buy my risers I will try those next, though $100 in risers is starting to get a little carried away for me
 
vibe said:
Check out these new style of risers that use a usb 3.0 cable (via pci-e signal) for much better shielding and better air flow:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=392536

apparently you can get really long lengths out of them too

If I have to re-buy my risers I will try those next, though $100 in risers is starting to get a little carried away for me
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I saw those when they were $30 a pop on amazon. They're up to 40 now. I mainly just want some oddball long ones just to spread out better on some of the bigger rigs. finding the ribbon cable crap is nearly the same price as these USB ones right now. I can get shorty ribbon cable ones for like $13 which is fine for maybe 2 cards per rig but then these long cables are needed to spread out better to allow for proper cooling.
 
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