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that's nice, but I really enjoy building my own, even if it will cost me eventually 15-18k cost to build
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that's nice, but I really enjoy building my own, even if it will cost me eventually 15-18k cost to build
And my 2500.00 usd pc is faster ! hahaha
Faster in what?
he's full of it, its not faster than the pc linked.
I was talking to a client earlier this year about upgrading or replacing his aging PC and I asked him what his budget was and he said around 4-5. So I am thinking $400-500 for upgrading.
I go over there and look at the old Dell Intel P4 machine and tell him that $400-500 is kinda tight to replace the machine, and he said he meant $4-5k was the budget.
He gave me $1k cash to start with and I built him a decent machine, fixed up the Dell for use in his restaurant, and upgraded his Laptop with an SSD, for $2200.
The Dell and the replacement machine are only used for Word, Quick Books, and general internet usage and I was surprised that he would budget so much for that type of machine.
I was talking to a client earlier this year about upgrading or replacing his aging PC and I asked him what his budget was and he said around 4-5. So I am thinking $400-500 for upgrading.
I go over there and look at the old Dell Intel P4 machine and tell him that $400-500 is kinda tight to replace the machine, and he said he meant $4-5k was the budget.
He gave me $1k cash to start with and I built him a decent machine, fixed up the Dell for use in his restaurant, and upgraded his Laptop with an SSD, for $2200.
The Dell and the replacement machine are only used for Word, Quick Books, and general internet usage and I was surprised that he would budget so much for that type of machine.
he's full of it, its not faster than the pc linked.
I generally charge 10% of cost for my builds. Anyone who would buy the pc mentioned wouldn't know what to do with it in any case.
Exactly. For that kind of money I would expect 512GB SSD RAID 0 at the least + 3TB+ RAID 1 or 5 for back up. Hell good 512GB SSD's were <$300 this week, no excuse for this.I like how it's all that money and only has a single 512GB SSD and a single 2TB HDD. Also find it funny that they keep referring to how it's "ahead of Microsoft's Xbox One"... No shit Sherlock, lol.
It's still overpriced, by a lot. Also my main gripe, and I think others would agree, is not so much the cost but the design choices.A lot of you really are getting rather silly stating how much you could build it for that you completely ignore the fact it is a UK company thus at the very least all the parts cost more and that price includes our 20% VAT.
People say this is a 6K rig but until i see one that looks that good i dont want to hear it. Anyone can throw parts together. Its making it look good is what costs money. Not to mention they warranty and support the system. It looks MDPC worthy. To much hate.
The article centers on 4k gaming performance. For 3-6k one can get a rig that'll provide a superior gaming experience.
I really don't see how something looks, aesthetically, matters when it only delivers 30fps. The entire point of owning a PC, to me, is so that I don't have to play games at 30fps.
A lot of props to DarthBeavis for trying to explain business in this thread.
I have run two computer service companies, and have done high-end audio installs and performance part installs on cars - we ALWAYS had to hit 100% markup through one method or another to stay open.
It all seems easy until you have to pay rent, insurance, employees, workman's comp, credit card fees, warranty work, shitty customers, print marketing, web marketing, AdWords and occasionally....yourself.
I wouldn't buy a $13,000 computer but I understand why a small builder who must pay $6k for the parts charges that, and I have certainly met the rare customer who would buy it.
Kim Dot Com's next gaming rig?
What would you change if you have to warranty it for 3 years and also cover the time you put into it (after swapping out the cheap green storage drives for blacks - system is two 512 gig Crucial M4s in raid 0)
If I were to sell this system I might ask 15k or so for it
yes, Lutro pre-sleeved most of the wires for me then I just put on connectors and did wire management. I did the Rigid tubes using Primochill parts and a hand-made jigis that your tubing and wiring job? It's awesome!
I am just glad people like you enjoy itWow that's awesome!
I always thought water cooling was neat, but I just can't bring myself to take the risk of mixing water and expensive electronics. Not just expensive but hard to get. Having to order, and wait, etc...
Because there is a such thing as having Function and Form rather then Function over form.
I am just glad people like you enjoy it
I'm digging your tubing, real inspiring stuff right there.
The markup is not surprising. Ever look at mass produced computers like Dell? They likely have 30-50% margin.
Burdened rates in my industry... A $10 an hr employee ends up being 30+. Engineers are over $100/hr (normal is $150/hr for a contract job), ect. Adds up quick!
There is a decent amount of labor and risk in a water cooled rig...
no, his numbers were far more accurate. accessories and warranties are sold at hundreds% margins. Unless you think that a $30 dollar printer cartridge costs Dell $25 and a $10 dollar Cat cable costs them $7! No, those operating costs would be ridiculous.Dell and other PC makers have a very low margin on most PC/laptops, that is why they always try to sell you extended warranties, cables, printer and ink. Those things have 30-50% margins. Most computers and cell phone markets are so competitive that you usually only get 1-5% margin, or even a loss, and you make it up with high margin add-ons like the warranties, cables, etc. Extended warranties typically work out to be a 50% profit for the issuing company.
no, his numbers were far more accurate. accessories and warranties are sold at hundreds% margins. Unless you think that a $30 dollar printer cartridge costs Dell $25 and a $10 dollar Cat cable costs them $7! No, those operating costs would be ridiculous.
Insurance brokers are not working under a 50/50 payout. That doesn't even make sense. They would be just as likely to go broke as make a profit under your claim that they only end up with a 50% profit. That's not how insurance companies work and they are the experts in derivatives specifically to ensure they don't operate with that kind of loss.
Numerous articles regarding component costs in both iPhone and android devices clearly establish that margins for cell phone manufacturers are much higher than 1-5%. It's not a guessing game--the data are available.
The person I quoted specifically referred to Dell and other OEM's.Boutique vendors do not get much of a discount buying name brand hardware at OEM prices