The highly rated HP Pavilion Slimline PC thread

I noticed that ECS introduced a mDTX / mini-ITX H61H2-MV motherboard for LGA1155
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pr...oryID=1&DetailName=Feature&MenuID=103&LanID=0

The ECS MOBO provides 2 slots, PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slot and a second expansion slot is a PCI-Express 2.0 x1, wired to the PCH (H61 in this case).
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/174727/ecs-intros-h61h2-mv-compact-micro-atx-motherboard.html

ASRock offers the H61M-VS motherboard (mDTX, mico-ATX, 2 slots)
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?model=h61m-vs

Bit-Tech.net Review of ASRock motherboard
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/20/budget-intel-motherboards/2

Something to consider for HP Slimline S3000 motherboard upgrades, as prices are discounted for new Haswell motherboards.


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w9gb said:
I noticed that ECS introduced a mDTX / mini-ITX H61H2-MV motherboard for LGA1155
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pr...oryID=1&DetailName=Feature&MenuID=103&LanID=0

The ECS MOBO provides 2 slots, PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slot and a second expansion slot is a PCI-Express 2.0 x1, wired to the PCH (H61 in this case).
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/174727/ecs-intros-h61h2-mv-compact-micro-atx-motherboard.html

ASRock offers the H61M-VS motherboard (mDTX, mico-ATX, 2 slots)
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?model=h61m-vs

Bit-Tech.net Review of ASRock motherboard
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/20/budget-intel-motherboards/2

Something to consider for HP Slimline S3000 motherboard upgrades, as prices are discounted for new Haswell motherboards.


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Welcome & thanks for posting. Can't wait for the first Haswell Slimline :D

BUT

I can tell just from sight the ASRock won't fit the (s3000) case. Despite anything you read from the specs about the s3000 mb being a certain form factor they aren't necessarily that (thanks HP :rolleyes: ). I believe they are mini DTX which is virtually a dead form factor. It's essentially a miniITX + an inch on the bottom with another PCI slot very close. There are no more screw points on the case(beyond the mITX compatible 4) (not that that matters)...

The ECS one looks possible- good find!. :) But tbh you'd probably be better off with a mITX board as that one might restrict your GPU by pushing it right to the bottom of the case...
There is a thread here : http://www.overclock.net/t/1345585/mdtx-motherboards discussing
 
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If you thinking build a haswell rig, you should wait to Z87 mobos, probably in this month comes a lot of models to choose the best deal
Hey guys i found 6770 LP, a line between 7750& 7850
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The specs
/http://www.triplex.com.tw/lang_english/prod/amd_6770_lp
 
Chry said:
Despite anything you read from the specs about the s3000 mb being a certain form factor they aren't necessarily that (thanks HP ). I believe they are mini DTX which is virtually a dead form factor. It's essentially a miniITX + an inch on the bottom with another PCI slot very close.
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Yes, aware of above and have read this thread. Been doing updates and modifications since IBM PC, thirty years ago.
The mini-DTX, mDTX form factor is 200 mm x 170 mm (max).
Anyone actually measure (mm or inches) the HP Slimline S3000 case for maximum motherboard size?

The ECS H61H2-MV (v3.0) motherboard is the correct size (dimensions): 195 mm(W) X 170mm(H)
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pr...oryID=1&DetailName=Feature&MenuID=103&LanID=0

Finally found the dimensions for ASRock motherboard, its an odd-ball (1" or 26 mm wider than mDTX).
Form Factor: 8.9-in x 6.8-in, 226 mm x 173 mm
Might be Flex ATX

I did find TWO FOXCONN motherboards (March/April 2013 release), 65W limit on CPU.
MOBO Size: 190.5 mm x 170 mm (7.5 inch x 6.7 inch)

Foxconn H61MD (LAN to 1 Gb)
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/ProductDetail.aspx?T=Motherboard&U=en-us0000595

Foxconn H61MD-V (LAN to 100 Mb)
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/ProductDetail.aspx?T=Motherboard&U=en-us0000598#

Support Intel LGA1155 Sandybridge & Ivy Bridge series CPU
Expansion Slots (2): 1x PCI Express 3.0(IVB)/2.0 x16 slot and 1x PCI Express x1 slot
VGA display interface
Dual channel DDR3 memory up to 16GB
8*USB2.0 connectors, 4*SATAII

Computer form factors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_form_factor
 
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The stock motherboards were either (commonly)
an Irvine 190mm tall x 173mm or an Acacia 190.5mm tall x 172.7mm


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This is a mITX in the case. It is of course 170mm.

Note the black block just above the audio cable (bottom left). This is a cushion the board rests on an shows how far down they extended. You can see that there is perhaps an extra 10mm below that if you cut out the cable holders.

So 200mm would be the max for the case (maybe a few more mm - I will measure exactly next time I have the case open).
So if it is actually mini-DTX [200 × 170 mm max.] it will just fit. Anything taller won't.

Those Foxconn look good size-wise despite claiming a mATX form factor in the specs.
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In addition the PSU header is favourably positioned to this case (near the PSU).
On the downside (as with other boards with the header in this nice position) you are on the dangerline for CPU fan clearance to the ODD. + the GPU point as above - you may well run out of space at the bottom of the case for your GPU heat solution for the minimal(?) benefit over a mITX of a PCIe1x. I'd still go with a mITX for most applications (hopefully with an HDMI).
It is good to see someone is still producing compatible cases though - more options always good :)
 
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Hey guys,my card arrives today,but I need to pay 60 dollars of TAX, the courier comes in 7 pm ,obviously I can't pay that money,he comes too late and my nearest bank its in 4 km,and i dont have enough cash in the moment to pay =(,tomorrow he comes again ,and I get the card
 
yousuckstoo said:
Hey guys,my card arrives today,but I need to pay 60 dollars of TAX, the courier comes in 7 pm ,obviously I can't pay that money,he comes too late and my nearest bank its in 4 km,and i dont have enough cash in the moment to pay =(,tomorrow he comes again ,and I get the card
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HAIL TO THE KING!!!!!!


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Finally get the most powerfull Hp Slimline FM1 build, the 7850 is just big!!! i just bend with pliers the piece to the card,BUT FITS NICE, running now in 40°C in idle, the weather is too hot in my flat (probably gets 35°C, in my city the temps are between 29 or 32° C ,i love it

See my unboxing to see this monster (2 parts) i cant handle this card with 1 hand, see the links in my reply

Final Specs
HP Slimline S3000 Case
AMD A8 3870K Quad Core
Gemin II M4 Slim Cooler
8GB DDR3 RAM
500 GB SATA 3 HDD
DVD LG modisc
Athena Power 80 Plus Bronce 400 watts Flex
Afox AMD Radeon 7850 Low Profile card 2gb DDR5 card
I cant wait to run the lastest games ,i gonna search if the manufacter give me a AMD coupon to download Tomb Raider and FC3
 
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Sorry for the pics, my Lumia 505 isnt the best camera, i spend all my money to this card, i choose between this card or an Iphone 4S :D, i start making a review to you in my Opera Blog, when its done,i linked
 
Hey guys,i gonna undervolt and underclock the card,i having some issues playing games (random shutdowns) ,i think first the random shutdowns is caused for the heat,but its ok,the temps reach 75°C (less than the GTX 650) I saw with a temp and voltages program,the PSU becomes unestable when the card its in high permormance mode,when uses the max energy ( 1.210 Volts) the PSU dont resist and shut down at the moment, so the question is whats the best numbers to undervolt,i gonna try to 1.000 Volts first, if resist i up .030 Volts to get the PSU limit and after that put the best voltages tring to lose the minimum performance (if rans in Ultra 1680 x 1050 at 40 FPS its OK for me), its weird,i tried a 6770 before and never shut down the PC, and the consuption is the same (100 vs 105 watts) this is my PSU http://athenapower.com/product/power-supply/flex-atx/ap-mfatx40 In the label says have the power of 32 AMP, or 200
+watts in PCI express rail (The GPU uses 95 watts in Battlefield 3 :/), so im confused why dont resist, the Watts of consume of the PC dont reach up of 270 watts,less than 80% of total wattage avaiable
 
Chry said:
... downside (as with other boards with the header in this nice position) you are on the danger-line for CPU fan clearance to the ODD. + the GPU point as above - you may well run out of space at the bottom of the case for your GPU ...
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Kontron, well known German company, introduced a new mini-ITX Haswell motherboard, using the Intel® Q87 Lynx Point PCH earlier this week.
http://de.kontron.com/products/boar...herboards/miniitx+motherboards/ktq87mitx.html

While many of their boards end up in embedded appliances (Kiosks, ATM), it is a nice layout, that appears to address many HP Slimline S3xxxx case issues. It features PCIe x16 socket with Gen3 and Gen2 support, 1x Mini-PCIe, 1x mSATA 1.50/3/6Gbit/s, 2x COM (RS232).

The Kontron- specific embedded feature connector (on this mobo) offers up to 160 GPIO, analog-to-digital converter (ADC) and digital-to-analog converter (DAC) minimizing the BOM and design-in efforts for individual I/O functionality.

You gotta love the potential and flexibility of the design (perfect for embedded users).

KTQ87 mITX motherboard - datasheet
http://de.kontron.com/_etc/scripts/download/getdownload.php?downloadId=MTU5NjA=

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Ok i order this supplementary PSU ,because the performance of the card underclocked its crappy to me (runs like a 7770 OC) the PSU is this

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the plan is this, when i stay in home, i use the PSU external mode,will use insulating tape to fasten in the right side of the case, if i need move the CPU (LAN Pary for example) just unplug the DVD drive and fits the PSU inside to get all the RIG inside of the case
 
w9gb said:
Kontron, well known German company, introduced a new mini-ITX Haswell motherboard, using the Intel® Q87 Lynx Point PCH earlier this week.
http://de.kontron.com/products/boar...herboards/miniitx+motherboards/ktq87mitx.html

While many of their boards end up in embedded appliances (Kiosks, ATM), it is a nice layout, that appears to address many HP Slimline S3xxxx case issues. It features PCIe x16 socket with Gen3 and Gen2 support, 1x Mini-PCIe, 1x mSATA 1.50/3/6Gbit/s, 2x COM (RS232).

The Kontron- specific embedded feature connector (on this mobo) offers up to 160 GPIO, analog-to-digital converter (ADC) and digital-to-analog converter (DAC) minimizing the BOM and design-in efforts for individual I/O functionality.

You gotta love the potential and flexibility of the design (perfect for embedded users).

KTQ87 mITX motherboard - datasheet
http://de.kontron.com/_etc/scripts/download/getdownload.php?downloadId=MTU5NjA=

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Yeah that one is pretty much perfect . Wonder how it is priced...
 
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yousuckstoo said:
Hey guys,i gonna undervolt and underclock the card,i having some issues playing games (random shutdowns) ,i think first the random shutdowns is caused for the heat,but its ok,the temps reach 75°C (less than the GTX 650) I saw with a temp and voltages program,the PSU becomes unestable when the card its in high permormance mode,when uses the max energy ( 1.210 Volts) the PSU dont resist and shut down at the moment, so the question is whats the best numbers to undervolt,i gonna try to 1.000 Volts first, if resist i up .030 Volts to get the PSU limit and after that put the best voltages tring to lose the minimum performance (if rans in Ultra 1680 x 1050 at 40 FPS its OK for me), its weird,i tried a 6770 before and never shut down the PC, and the consuption is the same (100 vs 105 watts) this is my PSU http://athenapower.com/product/power-supply/flex-atx/ap-mfatx40 In the label says have the power of 32 AMP, or 200
+watts in PCI express rail (The GPU uses 95 watts in Battlefield 3 :/), so im confused why dont resist, the Watts of consume of the PC dont reach up of 270 watts,less than 80% of total wattage available
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This is sad to hear! :(

Your PSU should be capable for the card :mad:

Are you able to try the card (or PSU) in another system to check each?

Did you get stability with the underclock?

Guess concern with supplementary PSU in the case would be super heat !
 
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It does look like you may have a power problem. It may be the PSU or it may be how the MB manages power.

Unfortunately, you can’t just total up the watts of the devices in a PC and determine what is good enough. Each voltage (12V, 5V, 3.3V) has a maximum number of watts depending on the amp rating of the PSU.

Your power supply is rated at 12v and 16A. The spec for your PSU is likely peak output since they don’t tell you. You have a maximum of 192 watts available on a 12V rail. Watts = Amps x Volts. The rails are independent and one rail will not add watts to the other.

The continuous rating is probably down around 160 - 170 watts. Simplistically, overload watts or amps and trigger a shutdown. Depending on the PSU, that could be as high as 240 watts or 20 amps. Beyond this point, things tend to cook.

http://www.supercircuits.com/resources/tools/volts-watts-amps-converter has a converter if you don’t want to do the math.

A 2.0 pci-e slot is limited to 75 watts so high performance, fan loaded GPU’s normally have an auxiliary power connector. A six pin connector adds another 75 watts and an 8 pin adds 150 watts. If you have a pci-e 3.0 slot, the watt limit is increased to 300 watts.

Actually I am hoping that neither of these is you problem because the solution is to throw more money at the machine, either for a more capable PSU or a more capable MB.
 
Its a 12 volt rail problem,the APU isnt a energy saver CPU, in load uses 120 watts, and shares the 12 Rail with the card, if this uses 130, isnt enought to ran in the 400 watts PSU, the PSU gives 254 watts in 12 rail, and the hadware pushing to the limit, obviously the PSU shut down:(
Well with the Supplementary PSU finally can run the card, absolutely amazing can handle all games maxed out (1680 x 1050), but the wires are too fat (1.2cm) and the PSU is more larger than the DVD drive and dont fit at all in the case, im seeling both PSU and get this
http://www.wiredzone.com/Supermicro-PWS-601-1H-Power-Supply-1U,-600W-80-Plus-Gold-Level~10020416~0.htm
Yeah,i knowm Its a Server PSU,but its the only i find with + 500 watts with gold certificaction and 12 Volt Rail with a big 12 Volt rail (49 Amps vs 32 make a big difference) and other tought is so many Server PSU dont have that 12 + rail and that doesnt help to power the GC, its larger than Flex size but i invent a way to fit all wires,theoretically fits (the width of the case is 4 inches and the PSU widht is 3.9, if dont fit again need a little modification , recently i mod the case, because the 6 pin connector of the GC are in bad bad site, if i plug the energy connector the door dont fit and i cant close it,so i make a rectangle in this zone
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to close the case
I upload some pics when i get the PSU, dont have the PCI 6 pin connector but have 2 Molex connector,just use a molex to 6 pin to plug the GC
 
Took the ODD out of my system. was getting random power-offs I suspect from the PSU cable being contorted round the HDD cage and crushed under the ODD.

Hope it works! :(
 
I put an intake shroud on my Slimline :p don't be alarmed by how professional it looks!

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makes sure cool air from outside the case is drawn in onto the CPU.
 
Hi, all,

I've got a Pavilion Slimline s3500F and I'm thinking to use it for a home theatre type unit... Needs a better video card to handle HD, and I'd like something passively cooled for noise reasons. At this point, what's a good budget answer? I see plenty of posts on this but they are old enough that I figure time has marched on. I don't keep a close eye on the world of graphics, so I don't really know where the sweet spot is.

Thanks for any advice.
 
Chry said:
I put an intake shroud on my Slimline :p don't be alarmed by how professional it looks!

makes sure cool air from outside the case is drawn in onto the CPU.
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Has it made a difference? or was this something to do just 'cuz? (not that there's anything wrong with that...) :)
 
I actually have a spare Pavilion Slimline S3700F that's like new... anyone here want to buy? (I may have more of these soon, too-- as a family we bought about five, right when they were close to being discontinued, and may retire them soon.)
 
qkkr said:
Hi, all,

I've got a Pavilion Slimline s3500F and I'm thinking to use it for a home theatre type unit... Needs a better video card to handle HD, and I'd like something passively cooled for noise reasons. At this point, what's a good budget answer? I see plenty of posts on this but they are old enough that I figure time has marched on. I don't keep a close eye on the world of graphics, so I don't really know where the sweet spot is.

Thanks for any advice.
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I use a Sapphire 5450 in the Slimline that I use as my bedroom HTPC and it works great. I think I got it for 14.99 AR but even at 19.99 AR I think it is worth the money for HTPC use.
 
qkkr said:
Has it made a difference? or was this something to do just 'cuz? (not that there's anything wrong with that...) :)
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Well it was mainly just because to be honest ;) .. But it is definitely about 3-5 degrees cooler generally and also quicker to cool from being hot (as you might expect from the air flow theory). I can't be sure because I have since taken the ODD drive out and had warm weather recently also :cool:

It's not flush to the side like the stock air output was on the original sadly but you can feel it pulling in air from outside the case in :)
 
Gronnie said:
I use a Sapphire 5450 in the Slimline that I use as my bedroom HTPC and it works great. I think I got it for 14.99 AR but even at 19.99 AR I think it is worth the money for HTPC use.
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Thanks for the tip! does it obstruct the other slot?

I see it at NewEgg with the rebate, for that amount of money it seems pretty painless. I'm wondering if there's anything else I can do to cut down on noise.

Oh- I also see this MSI: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127557 Looks to be the same specs but only $9.99 after rebate!
 
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Hi All,

Let me start out by saying that I have been following this thread since becoming a 3020n owner several years back, and have found the knowledge and insight here most useful.

That being said, my slimline gave up the ghost earlier this week. Long story short what I thought was a power supply failure, has turned into much more. After replacing it myself, and not fixing the problem, I paid for a professional diagnosis. The report I got back: hard drive failure (won't even mount) and logic board failure. The only thing they were able to surmise is some sort of power surge...so much for the so called 'surge protector".

In any case, I have to replace my main household system, and am now stuck with a dead HP. As a token of gratitude to those on this thread, I would like to offer the case/board/parts to anyone who can put them to use. I considered putting up an ad on the for sale board, but I am not interested in selling this, just hoping to give it a new home if you can use it, and keep it out of the e-waste stream.

If there is anyone interested, you are welcome to the case, and all the other bits you may want. I have pulled the hdd and the ram to keep, but all else is up for grabs if you will cover the shipping cost.

Kindly let me know if this is not appropriate here, and I will try and recycle locally, but if there is interest, just shoot me a PM. I am located in Michigan USA for shipping purposes.

Thanks again to all the contributors who helped me during my ownership of the 3020n!
 
My original Windows Vista operating system from my original s3020n is presently on a system with entirely different components including a different non-HP motherboard. I have reinstalled and reactivated at least twice including an upgrade from original 32 bit to 64 bit: only requires Microsoft phone activation- no problem otherwise. I would suggest you keep your COA certificate on the side of the computer with the activation keys. You never can tell when you might need them and save 50 bucks or more on eBay.
 
Hi everyone,
I'm looking at the sapphire 5450 for my slimline 3120n. I'm hesitant since my previous HTPC had an AMD chipset... every time I would switch inputs on my tv and back to the HTPC, xbmc would be windowed and not fullscreen. Are there any similar issues with this card?
 
I think what you experienced is an HDMI handshake issue between your video card and your TV. You will have to try it out to know for sure. I don't use XBMC but I have replaced my slimline an AMD E-350 M/B and I don't have the issue you described.

However, when I used a GeForce G210 card, I had experienced audio issue through HDMI (sometimes audio is disabled). So there is really issue with all of them. One thing I do notice is ATI / nVidia specific is the way each handle overscan. They seem to have different approach and one may work better for your TV, etc.
 
Hi everyone, I stumbled on this site while doing research and I have learned a lot from here. I bought a slimline s7520n from Savers for 15 dollars but when opened it up I found it had old hardware and a damaged hard drive. However I fell in love with the case, the size and the potential for use as a HTPC and moderate gaming appealed to me. What I didnt bargain for was the problems I would encounter powering up the system and keeping it cool. I thought all I needed to do was replace the hardware and I am good to go. I had a Sapphire Radeon 7750 lp card lying around, a 320Gb WD hard drive I had used for my previous build, an Intel Pentium G860 CPU and Kingston HyperX Genesis DDR3 4GB Memory I bought off craigslist. All it seemed I needed was a new motherboard and as I later found out a new power supply as the stock HP power supply was only about 100watt. I bought a Foxconn H61S mini itx motherboard and also a Rosewill CPU cooler when I found out the stock cooler would be a bit tight in the case.

The real problem I had was finding a power supply that had decent wattage but was quiet. That was the begining of my nightmare with this case as I couldnt get anything decent that wouldnt cost an arm and a leg. I eventually opted for a Solid Gear Mini ITX 320-Watts Power Supply which turned out to be very noisy and therefore unusable for a HTPC. I decided to buy a Scythe MINI KAZE ULTRA" 40 x 20 mm Silent Mini Fan to change the PSU fan. My guess is it has a lower CFM the original PSU fan (There is very little information on the PSU, the manual is really flimsy). I also bought a Noctua 40x10mm fan for the case to help with the cooling.

My question is should I continue with this project that seems to be never ending or just buy a new case (I am thinking of the cooler master elite 120). I was also wondering what would be the danger to my PSU if I change the fan to a fan with lower CFM but less noise. Can I get a PSU that would have at least 300watts that isnt noisy but would fit into the case and wouldnt be too expensive. Finally for those that have one of these cases, do I really needed to modify the case and put a 120mm fan on the side? That to me would be a bridge to far and I would just give up on the case.
 
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I decided to buy a Scythe MINI KAZE ULTRA" 40 x 20 mm Silent Mini Fan to change the PSU fan. My guess is it has a lower CFM the original PSU fan
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I would NOT put those in the PSU. These fans will NOT provide enough airflow for any PSU.
They are, in my opinion, very good for providing extra airflow in a small formfactor build where noise is a consideration, for example in an external hard disk drive enclosure. I've tried to use them to replace worn fans in an old switch but they were inadequate.
 
Hey guys new to this board, but frequent Guest lurker on this thread. I recently dusted off my old s3713w and tried to play wow on it . To my disappointment it can no longer play wow on the default integrated graphics. I browsed through this thread a bit and noticed some users have had success with the default PSU and the 5450. Now my question is would this include this card?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150659
 
s3713wfetish said:
Hey guys new to this board, but frequent Guest lurker on this thread. I recently dusted off my old s3713w and tried to play wow on it . To my disappointment it can no longer play wow on the default integrated graphics. I browsed through this thread a bit and noticed some users have had success with the default PSU and the 5450. Now my question is would this include this card?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150659
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I've run a 5570 on the default s3300z PSU. Not sure exactly what the s3713w has, but unless it's woefully underpowered, you should be fine adding that 5450.
 
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CEpeep said:
I've run a 5750 on the default s3300z PSU. Not sure exactly what the s3713w has, but unless it's woefully underpowered, you should be fine adding that 5450.
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Good to hear ! The PSU is 160W according to HP website.

HP Pavilion Slimline s3713w
2.3 Ghz AMD Athlon X2 4450e Dual Core Processor
3 GB RAM ( might upgrade to 4 )
320 GB Hard Drive
Integrated graphics using nVidia GeForce 6150SE
160W Power Supply
Windows 7 Ultimate
 
s3713wfetish said:
Good to hear ! The PSU is 160W according to HP website.

HP Pavilion Slimline s3713w
2.3 Ghz AMD Athlon X2 4450e Dual Core Processor
3 GB RAM ( might upgrade to 4 )
320 GB Hard Drive
Integrated graphics using nVidia GeForce 6150SE
160W Power Supply
Windows 7 Ultimate
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Just checked and the s3300z also has a 160W PSU, but it runs a low-power BE-2300 instead of a full Athlon X2. I still think you'll be ok dropping a 5450 into your s3713w, though.
 
CEpeep said:
Just checked and the s3300z also has a 160W PSU, but it runs a low-power BE-2300 instead of a full Athlon X2. I still think you'll be ok dropping a 5450 into your s3713w, though.
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Ah ok, read on this forum that disconnecting the DVD player helps ? So i might be doing this, i dont use the DVD drive much.
 
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