Finally upgraded - Windows 8 to Windows 7, a gamers point of view

I have never been able to play Arkham City because of GFWL. Microsoft can't even design a basic f'ing password reset system. E-mailing their support team directly, detailing all the problems I have with the automated system...generates an automated e-mail directing me back to the automated system.

Many, many curse words were spoken that day. (A week after the support ticket was e-mailed, mind you.)

I had a very similar issue with Origin and BSN (yes, both). But, man, you really need to play Batman AC. I keep my copy installed at all times.
 
well i have never had issues with vista and i got it as soon as it came out. i wouldn't mind using it if dx11 worked on it. and the bad press was all blown out of proportion.

I am assuming your just rolling me with that GFWL comment.

I used Vista at launch too and it was extremely slow compared to XP. Ran like a like a worn out slug and hit my hard drive constantly bogging it down doing god knows what. Fortunately Service pack 1 fixes my performance gripes with it, and running Vista on an SSD helps hide it's tendency to over use your hard drive.

And no I'm not trolling you. I believe in treating others how you want to be treated. I don't think it's fair that my games for windows live and origin games open instantly when I click on the launchers. I paid a lot of money to have a badass godlike PC. Last thing I expect from my Uber PC is to have to stare at "preparing to launch game". Often times too my hard drive light is off when it happens, so steam is either twiddling it's stupid thumbs and wasting my time, or it's trying to make sure I really bought the game or something which is fucking stupid because I have bought GTA4 four times and Half-Life 2 three times. I'm the last person in the world who would steam game content and I don't like being treated like a criminal. I realize it doesn't bother everyone and that's fine. I wouldn't judge anyone for using steam. I personally want my DRM inside my games, not my games inside my DRM.
 
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I used Vista at launch too and it was extremely slow compared to XP. Ran like a like out slug and hit my hard drive constantly bogging it down doing god knows what. Fortunately Service pack 1 fixes my performance gripes with it, and running Vista on an SSD helps hide it's tendency to over use your hard drive.

And no I'm not trolling you. I believe in treating others how you want to be treated. I don't think it's fair that my games for windows live and origin games open instantly when I click on the launchers. I paid a lot of money to have a badass godlike PC. Last thing I expect from my Uber PC is to have to stare at "preparing to launch game". Often times too my hard drive light is off when it happens, so steam is either twiddling it's stupid thumbs and wasting my time, or it's trying to make sure I really bought the game or something which is fucking stupid because I have bought GTA4 four times and Half-Life 2 three times. I'm the last person in the world who would steam game content and I don't like being treated like a criminal. I realize it doesn't bother everyone and that's fine. I wouldn't judge anyone for using steam. I personally want my DRM inside my games, not my games inside my DRM.

I never really had any issues with Vista honestly, and it proved to be more of an upgrade to me over XP, though I knew a lot of people who didn't share the same sentiments...

Also what is a:
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like a like out slug
 
I might be in the minority, but Vista was bulletproof for me. I only installed it one time and never had any issues for the entire lifespan of it when I installed the Win7 Upgrade on top of it.
I reinstalled Win 7 at least 5 times and XP I formatted so many times that I had to call MS to unlock it. Vista was 1 and done.
Not that Vista was perfect, but I think a lot of the issues with it were just what people heard more than experienced.
Windows 8's issues are more that it's a weird departure from what we know.
 
I haven't had any issues running games with Windows 8 personally, I still prefer Windows 7 because there is more driver support at this time.
 
I might be in the minority, but Vista was bulletproof for me
Believe me you are definitely the minority. I feel like i have reloaded every vista pc in a 50 mile radius at this point.
 
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Didnt have many problems with vista as far as gaming, but I havent had an issue with win8 gaming at all.
 
I haven't had any issues running games with Windows 8 personally, I still prefer Windows 7 because there is more driver support at this time.
Unless I'm mistaken, only the display driver model's changed.
 
Those who say no are not gamers or they have very few games installed and are not valid critics. I have 140 Steam games, also have close to a couple hundred more non-steam games. I use Win8 as my music server on a laptop and not as a gaming OS because that is about all it is good for.


opinions from those who have been here less than 10 days don't count
 
Anyone have similar thoughts or experiences?

Nope.

Windows 8 has been fantastic for me, since even betas. Matter of fact, with 8.1 right around the corner looking to improve upon most everything, I am very excited. Ive been using Win8 on my home and work machines now for nearly a year and using Windows 7 feels antiquated. (Also, most all of my servers are running Server 2012 as well).

Yes, antiquated and lacking in features. Windows 8 to me, is a faster version of Windows 7 with better features and Metro in place of the old Start bar.
 
opinions from those who have been here less than 10 days don't count

I was around discussing PC gaming when Usenet was the place to go so know a thing or two. Protip: Load mouse driver high. ;)

BTW, RTC is broken in Win8 so don't bother posting your game benchmarks if you use Win8.
 
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I was around discussing PC gaming when Usenet was the place to go so know a thing or two. Protip: Load mouse driver high. ;)

BTW, RTC is broken in Win8 so don't bother posting your game benchmarks if you use Win8.

Hey I read an article on the front page!

Doesn't matter how long you've been around you have just been parroting information you've read with no real experience on the matter at hand.

Simple fact of the matter is if a game runs in Windows 7 it will run in Windows 8.
 
I personally have had no compatibility issues myself in Windows 8 Pro 64bit. Everything I had previously on Windows 7 has worked flawlessly on my 8 box.
 
Windows 8 is a superior platform. I did a TON of bitching about the RT versions and the Metro UI (which I still hate) but Windows 8 from an OS stand point is a great and worthy upgrade from 7. It handles everything with even better resource management and it boots lightning fast , it updates faster than Windows 7 did.

All my games run flawlessly on it. I've noticed it never BSOD's , it always works the way it should. It also handles having lots of HDD/SSD very intelligently. Its got a great software raid system. I've also noticed that when I transcode videos that it handles that process much more intelligently , now Air playit and PS3 Media server use only about 30-40 percent of the CPU load and about half as much RAM versions Windows 7 which can spike to 99 percentage in both programs doing transcoding. Windows 7 also didn't like it when I had 18GB's of RAM installed and saw fit to constantly buffer into which caused weird behavior in certain programs. Window 8 , with its superior resource management never has this issue and even when I'm pushing it hard with multiple tasks it never has weird program behavior issues.

I can understand people might have issues but overall I think most gamers are pretty damn happy with Windows 8 stability OP. Perhaps its just bad luck for you , have you considered a reinstall just to see if it was a bad install to begin with? This use to happen with Windows 7 for me and normally clearing the install took care of it.
 
I have yet to have one issue with Win 8. Not installing it has helped a lot
 
I personally have had no compatibility issues myself in Windows 8 Pro 64bit. Everything I had previously on Windows 7 has worked flawlessly on my 8 box.

same here, been on win8 platform for almost a year now. no issues in a long time for me now. /shrug.
 
... have you considered a reinstall just to see if it was a bad install to begin with? This use to happen with Windows 7 for me and normally clearing the install took care of it.

No offence mate, but we aren't talking Windows 98 here. A Bad install on Windows 7. Is that even possible?

I remember the days when Id have to re-install Win98 every 30 days or so due to various issues. But not since Xp have I had to re-install an OS for a 'bad install'
 
I had a couple steam games randomly stop loading etc and had to jump through hoops to end up still not being able to play one of the games. Then all of a sudden it works again. Could have been an issue with steam? I don't know they sure couldnt figure it out.
 
Simple fact of the matter is if a game runs in Windows 7 it will run in Windows 8.

OK, I will swap Win8 to my main gaming PC after my next hardware upgrade. If I have even one game that doesn't run on Win8 that ran fine on Win7 I will hold you personally responsible.

I will be using ClassicMenu though so I don't ever have to see Metro GUI. They should do an NLite for Win8 and gut out Metro GUI and the apps store.
 
OK, I will swap Win8 to my main gaming PC after my next hardware upgrade. If I have even one game that doesn't run on Win8 that ran fine on Win7 I will hold you personally responsible.

And what about the situation where something doesn't run in 7 but does in 8 or runs better in 8?
 
No offence mate, but we aren't talking Windows 98 here. A Bad install on Windows 7. Is that even possible?

I remember the days when Id have to re-install Win98 every 30 days or so due to various issues. But not since Xp have I had to re-install an OS for a 'bad install'

You should of done it with XP as well, since they didn't support trimming either. 98 was terrible but what you are talking about isn't what a bad in stall is. Bad installs start with the hard drive (non SSD). It was very rarely the fault of FAT32.

Reinstalling 98 to get past the 50% system degradation was terrible, I still have my HD set with my ghost image on it that I used before I upgraded to WinME (then Win2000 WS a week later).
 
OK, I will swap Win8 to my main gaming PC after my next hardware upgrade. If I have even one game that doesn't run on Win8 that ran fine on Win7 I will hold you personally responsible.

I will be using ClassicMenu though so I don't ever have to see Metro GUI. They should do an NLite for Win8 and gut out Metro GUI and the apps store.

I never see the metro ui except when I want to. Never understood people who complain about the metro ui. Just run in desktop mode.

You do know that windows 8 has a windows 7 compatibility mode right? Just like win 7 had an xp mode for those rare occurrences where something didn't play right.

But since you did extensive research and claimed windows 8 had so many problems and that you couldn't deal with it you kept your steam account away from it. With 140 steam games I figured you could have named one game that didn't play nice with windows 8 but you couldn't and since you didn't answer my question I went ahead and looked it up. The answer is 0 just so you know.
 
True, but compatibility mode is no guarantee of operability.

That said, if you're forced to run compatibility mode on something, you really need to think about whether what you're trying to run is a reasonable thing for the OS to support. It's unreasonable, for instance, to expect MechWarrior 2 3Dfx to run on Windows 8, even if it could be made to run in 7 with an excessive amount of contortion: the fact that it can be made to run in 7 is just a bonus.
 
I never see the metro ui except when I want to. Never understood people who complain about the metro ui. Just run in desktop mode.

You do know that windows 8 has a windows 7 compatibility mode right? Just like win 7 had an xp mode for those rare occurrences where something didn't play right.

But since you did extensive research and claimed windows 8 had so many problems and that you couldn't deal with it you kept your steam account away from it. With 140 steam games I figured you could have named one game that didn't play nice with windows 8 but you couldn't and since you didn't answer my question I went ahead and looked it up. The answer is 0 just so you know.

No! I am not the OP, I was just backing up his complaints going by posts from people I have seen on many forums.

Perhaps this is the only forum you use but I read many forums so get the whole gamut and do not go by what people here only say.

I currently use Win8 as a music server and not for games so I have zero issues with games on Win8 because I don't use it for gaming. Got it? :eek:
 
I never see the metro ui except when I want to. Never understood people who complain about the metro ui. Just run in desktop mode.

Um, it boots to Metro by default so kind of hard to avoid. You running 8.1 or have a 3rd party utility? In 8.1 you can make it boot to desktop but that is not RC yet. That is why I will use ClassicShell, so I can boot to desktop and have my StartMenu back. You Win8 apologists never let up making up excuses for a crap GUI for a desktop PC that the *majority* despises.
 
I think I have the start screen turned off with Display Fusion.

Also, you have an entire thread full of people here saying they've had 0 problems with games. I'm not sure why you keep going on about the problems it has with games.
 
Um, it boots to Metro by default so kind of hard to avoid.

Instant red flag comment.

I haven't seen the Metro UI in over 3 months, and that was because I accidentally hit the windows button on my keyboard one time before I changed that setting to open the start menu instead.

And yes, I reboot it often.
 
I haven't had any problems gaming with Windows 8, but I don't play any GFWL crap or nooby mobas. Just manly RTS and FPS games.
 
I think I have the start screen turned off with Display Fusion.

Also, you have an entire thread full of people here saying they've had 0 problems with games. I'm not sure why you keep going on about the problems it has with games.

An entire thread of about ten differnet people only. Ten people do not represent all Win8 gamers. Also, I just said two posts back that I will use Win8 as my gaming OS after I do my next hardware upgrade, which I was going to do this week but my friend forgot to bring me my mb and cpu so can't do it right now. I am flexible as evidenced by my post just two back and yet you still insist on using attack mode. I have words I would like to use for people like you but I would get banned for it so won't. :rolleyes:
 
Instant red flag comment.

I haven't seen the Metro UI in over 3 months, and that was because I accidentally hit the windows button on my keyboard one time before I changed that setting to open the start menu instead.

And yes, I reboot it often.

It boots to desktop mode by default once you are in desktop mode? I didn't know it can do that and have never ever seen anyone else say it does. I will check later to see for myself.

You're not using 8.1 preview perhaps? I read that option will be in 8.1 and is not in 8.0. Still, you don't have a StartMenu unless you use a 3rd party utility and the Start button in 8.1 is not bringing it back either even though I see people claiming it will. In order to make Win8 GUI like Win7 you must use a 3rd party utility.
 
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OK, I will swap Win8 to my main gaming PC after my next hardware upgrade. If I have even one game that doesn't run on Win8 that ran fine on Win7 I will hold you personally responsible.

I will be using ClassicMenu though so I don't ever have to see Metro GUI. They should do an NLite for Win8 and gut out Metro GUI and the apps store.

Edit: Nevermind.
 
Those who say no are not gamers or they have very few games installed and are not valid critics. I have 140 Steam games, also have close to a couple hundred more non-steam games. I use Win8 as my music server on a laptop and not as a gaming OS because that is about all it is good for.

Wind 8 here, 103 games in my steam library, 18 games currently installed and being played some old games and some newer. Also have games installed via Origin and Ubisoft Uplay as well as some installed the "old fashioned way" with a CD/DVD

I havent had a single problem with any games i play on windows 8, but I must not be a gamer so my opinion is invalid.
 
No! I am not the OP, I was just backing up his complaints going by posts from people I have seen on many forums.

Perhaps this is the only forum you use but I read many forums so get the whole gamut and do not go by what people here only say.

I currently use Win8 as a music server and not for games so I have zero issues with games on Win8 because I don't use it for gaming. Got it? :eek:

Search for window 7 problems and gaming and you get more complaints. Dealing with the plethora of pc configurations out there people will have peoblems regardless of what OS they use. However if you do have problems ask more than likely someone can help ypu fix it. It isn't about being a windows 8 apologist. At the end of the day I could care less what some random dude on the internet uses for an os but when your spreading fud and don't even use it for gaming I'm going to call you out on it.

Windows 8 has its fair share of annoyances and quirks and it isn't for everyone and if you don't need to upgrade from windows 7 then there is no reason to upgrade.

However I switched to windows 8 because it is a great os and I happened to really like it. Just like in windows 7 I tweaked a few settings to fit my needs I tweaked windows 8. Mine boots right to desktop but even if it didn't hitting the desktop tile or win-d was so much work right?
 
Dude, the user base for Win7 vs Win8 is like 100,000:1 ratio so that comment is declared invalid.
 
And what about the situation where something doesn't run in 7 but does in 8 or runs better in 8?

Far and few compared to the issues people are having trying the opposite.

I've been a gamer MANY years. I even adopted windows ME, and Vista on launch says and made do with the bugs.

But W8 and gaming just do not get along. Plain and simple, and just my .02, and experience.
 
Search for window 7 problems and gaming and you get more complaints. Dealing with the plethora of pc configurations out there people will have peoblems regardless of what OS they use. However if you do have problems ask more than likely someone can help ypu fix it. It isn't about being a windows 8 apologist. At the end of the day I could care less what some random dude on the internet uses for an os but when your spreading fud and don't even use it for gaming I'm going to call you out on it.

Windows 8 has its fair share of annoyances and quirks and it isn't for everyone and if you don't need to upgrade from windows 7 then there is no reason to upgrade.

However I switched to windows 8 because it is a great os and I happened to really like it. Just like in windows 7 I tweaked a few settings to fit my needs I tweaked windows 8. Mine boots right to desktop but even if it didn't hitting the desktop tile or win-d was so much work right?

After using Win8 as a daily OS on my rig since launch day, I like MANY users found it to be annoying. It was meant for a touch screen, and using it on a PC for any length of time proves that.

But I dealt with it. I adapted to it. But when it came to gaming, that was the last straw.
 
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