8.1 is free if you have 8.0.
Mine is free, too. It's in the recycle bin and free to anybody who wants it.
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8.1 is free if you have 8.0.
Mine is free, too. It's in the recycle bin and free to anybody who wants it.
I know a lot of what they added in 8 I could care less about (hence my never getting it), but I doubt it is that bad. I imagine a lot of 8 is just like Vista, people just repeating things they heard that often have no basis in fact.
That said, metro or whatever is still an awful idea IMO.
Blast, no edit!Also run Windows 7 on my desktop, laptop (convertible into a tablet), and media center PC's.
Also run Windows 7 on my desktop, laptop (convertible into a tablet), and media center PC's. Windows 7 is sticking around for a bit on the rest of the family's machines (Mostly because we missed the $40 promo pricing. Gotta save up).
Eagerly awaiting 8.1
Vista sucking was hardly a figment of ones imagination or a regurgitation of what someone else said. Vista did suck, even after the service packs.
good call.What does that have to do with the fact you are a shill?
what happens if/when 8.1 fails to take off?...throw in the towel and put all resources into Windows 9...and stop being so stubborn with the new Metro interface and bring back the Start menu?...amazing how something so simple can change something so radically...MS realizes this but they are just being stubborn and want to force people to adapt
That's not a true statistic.Vista was responsible for boosting apple market share from 8% to 13%.
The problem is the premise doesn't hold water. Market share fluctuates, even during the release cycle of each Windows version.I'm suggesting that Vista started the trend, or at least, played a big part of it and that momentum continued.
I'm suggesting that Vista started the trend, or at least, played a big part of it and that momentum continued. I know tons of people who converted to mac's during the Vista years and brag about it every chance they get to their PC friends/family.
It's no accident Apple had a huge marketing campaign aimed directly at Vista with the "I'm a mac, I'm a PC" commercials. That's how bad it really was, and those commercials all but stopped as soon as 7 was released.
Obviously this is my own personal speculation, but I honestly don't believe Apple would have ever broke 10% if Windows 7 came right after XP.
It's no accident Apple had a huge marketing campaign aimed directly at Vista with the "I'm a mac, I'm a PC" commercials. That's how bad it really was, and those commercials all but stopped as soon as 7 was released.
What was wrong with Vista? It was very similar to Windows 7 after it was patched up and driver support increased. I think a lot of people hated it at first due to poor driver support and an aggressive UAC.
What was wrong with Vista? It was very similar to Windows 7 after it was patched up and driver support increased. I think a lot of people hated it at first due to poor driver support and an aggressive UAC.
good call.
It's odd to see that kind of dedication outside of investors intent on salvaging a bad bet. But of course, anyone with a shred of integrity would include some kind of disclaimer in at least a couple of posts when literally defending Win8 in every forum where it's criticized, post for post. *cough*
You would turn search indexing and SuperFetch off in services.msc. Both are useful for system performance, and I would leave both on, but if those things really annoy you...I have Vista still on an older PC and can confirm the hard drive thrashing is fucking annoying. I've tried finding reg hacks and settings to stop it but it seems it has a mind of its own and continues unabated.
You would turn search indexing and SuperFetch off in services.msc. Both are useful for system performance, and I would leave both on, but if those things really annoy you...
Start/Run/services.msc
Change start type for Superfetch/SysMain to Disabled
Change start type for Windows Search/WSearch to Disabled
You can right click each and click stop to stop the services, or just reboot. Enjoy less hard drive thrashing, and slower system performance!
How would turning the indexing service off slow your system down? Won't it only slow your searches down if you forget where a file is an actually try to search for it?
You would turn search indexing and SuperFetch off in services.msc. Both are useful for system performance, and I would leave both on, but if those things really annoy you...
Start/Run/services.msc
Change start type for Superfetch/SysMain to Disabled
Change start type for Windows Search/WSearch to Disabled
You can right click each and click stop to stop the services, or just reboot. Enjoy less hard drive thrashing, and slower system performance!
The OS also uses indexing, but that's blunted after certain folders are accessed the first time. It's not a huge difference, but it does affect performance.How would turning the indexing service off slow your system down?
Yes. There is plenty of functionality that was removed from the start screen.Can you name something specific that requires more clicks and hoops.
Yes. There is plenty of functionality that was removed from the start screen.
"Boot to desktop" and "disable edge shortcuts" in Win 8.1 is a first step, but there's still a lot of work to do. MS should add this functionality to the start screen for desktop user productivity and efficiency. I'm pro-MS and I'd like MS to improve their products that will lead to better sales and more satisfied customers.
1. Resizable start screen, so it doesn't cover the entire desktop.
2. True context menu access from the start screen. Renaming and deleting shortcuts, etc.
3. All Apps sorted in even columns with nesting. Currently All Apps view folders and shortcuts are stacked on top of each other in uneven columns.
4. Nested control panel, network, favorites, recent documents/programs, restart/shutdown, etc. and other removed accessibility features.
5. Metro apps should be able to run in a window on the desktop.
6. Traditional search from the start screen.
Comparing Win 3.1 to 95 complaints as a way to dismiss Win 7 to 8 complaints is a fallacious false equivalency and says nothing about functionality. "Change = good, it's the future, deal with it" is another often repeated yet meaningless Win 8 fallacy.
Insulting the large majority of people who don't like Win 8 as "afraid of change", ignorant, idiots, etc. is not only fallacious but rude. Furthermore, insulting the people who are supposed to be buying MS' products is a recipie for business failure.
I don't disagree with what you're saying overall, but different doesn't mean one necessarily has to jump through hoops to do the same things between 7 and 8.
I've been talking about this one for well over a year now. I don't think it's as big of a deal as many make it out to be, particularly with multiple monitors, but it would allow the Start Screen to be customized more to the liking of some.
Again, something I've mentioned before myself and agree with.
Would be a nice addition to the views. One thing that I go think the Start Scree/App Screen bring to the table is the idea of seeing things in different ways as opposed to just this type of traditional Start Menu hierarchy.
Recent documents and programs are still there, just pin the locations to Favorites.
This is the one I probably disagree with the most, it's a complex subject. At this point I dont think the Modern UI is really a replacement for the desktop and doesnt need to be turned into another desktop.
Not sure exactly what you mean by this. 8.1 does work much more like Windows 7 in that has a side overlay and when launched with Windows Key+S works similarly to 7.
Windows 8 wasnt change for the sake of change, it was change to allow Windows to function better with touch and tablets, which is market here to stay and will eventually be bigger than desktops and laptops. Desktops and laptops arent going away but they simply arent as needed as they were when Windows 7 launched. I can appreciate many of the issues with 8 and why people dont like it on the desktop, but its still more than capable on the desktop and things did improve a good deal with 8.1.
Windows 8 wasnt change for the sake of change, it was change to allow Windows to function better with touch and tablets,
They could have still done that and also left in an option to boot to traditional desktop with classic start menu so cut the BS excuses.
Very odd response to a post critical of Windows 8 in which I agreed with much that was said.