24" Widescreen CRT (FW900) From Ebay arrived,Comments.

eno801 said:
Yeah I was being a little facetious. I will just have to find room for it. I have one I use at work and two others in storage guess I just will have to make some room. I just hate dealing with all the flakes on Craigslist. Ain't nobody got time for that! Just figured someone might want a working with a slight problem that may be easy to fix. Maybe Uncle Vito can shed some light on the flashing issue? Strange since this is the newest one by manufacture date that I have and was the one least used. Just sat in the middle computer room that was used maybe once a week. The one at work has been on continuously since I first picked it up in 2009 and is 2001 year model. Used for my Xbox til about 7 months ago when I switched it out for this one thinking it would be better you know. Less hours newer manufacture, then the flashing started a little while back and the 2001 which I moved to work is still chugging along perfectly, lol.
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Could you please send me a PM describing the issue in detail?

Look forward hearing from you...

Unkle Vito!
 
It could be that windows knows the name of the model but still uses P&P drivers.

I would recommend to get the original drivers and install them.
 
Hmmmm, well a quick google brings up tons of fake drivers and maleware. IS it possible the cnet page is wrong? Perhaps there are drivers in the deepest depths of the internet?
 
Found the drivers on Okdrivers.com.

Ive scanned for Virus and packed it in an Zip file. Here the link to it on my Skydrive:
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=45CB64FBC2186C3C!154

Here the link where i found it:
http://www.okdrivers.com/tag/dell-p992-windows-95

If youre using an 64 Bit System you have to modify the inf and write amd64 or so to some line. The same thing someone here on the forums done with the 32 bit version of the GDM-FW900 to work on 64 bit. I can look up to the two lines to add when im home.

Edit:

Inf File:

Original
[Manufacturer]
%DELL%=DELL

[DELL]

for 64bit support

[Manufacturer]
%DELL%=DELL, ntAMD64

[DELL.ntAMD64]
 
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while i haven't installed that drive in win 7, i did play around in linux and it goes up to 1920x1440 :eek: everything was crisp but, is it really displaying 1920x1440? I know there are only so many pixels per square inch.
 
cdoublejj said:
while i haven't installed that drive in win 7, i did play around in linux and it goes up to 1920x1440 :eek: everything was crisp but, is it really displaying 1920x1440? I know there are only so many pixels per square inch.
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the dot pitch from the fw900 monitor enables the display of every pixel on the 1920x1200 resolution. Its the recommended resolution.

The 2304x1440 resolution can give better image, but some pixels will "blend" ino their neighbours. Funny enough this effect, on extreme resolutons like 2560x1600, will produce some kind of fake antialiasing effect. Unfortunately the refresh rate of such resolutions is not high enough to make it viable for gaming.

2304x1440 is perfect for gaming, since at 80hertz refresh rate, almost noone will suffer from the "line" effect lower refresh rates produce on a CRT.
 
atwix said:
the dot pitch from the fw900 monitor enables the display of every pixel on the 1920x1200 resolution. Its the recommended resolution.

The 2304x1440 resolution can give better image, but some pixels will "blend" ino their neighbours. Funny enough this effect, on extreme resolutons like 2560x1600, will produce some kind of fake antialiasing effect. Unfortunately the refresh rate of such resolutions is not high enough to make it viable for gaming.

2304x1440 is perfect for gaming, since at 80hertz refresh rate, almost noone will suffer from the "line" effect lower refresh rates produce on a CRT.
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keep in mind i'm the one with the dell p992 which is a rebranded Sony CPD-G410R, my dot pitch is 0.24 mm, i'm not sure what the FW900's is.

spacediver said:
1920x1440 is not a 16:10 resolution. 2304x1440 and 1920x1200 are what you want.
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2304x1440 isn't listed, 1920x1200 is listed. What suck with linux is you can't run games at a higher resolution than the what the desktop is set to, ad at the resolutions everything is to tiny to be comfortable.
 
Only use a 16:10 resolution with FW900 if you are going to letterbox it...
 
It will take anything within its frequency range, but you'll of course have to manipulate the image to keep your circles circular and such...

My preference was a desktop of 1600 by 1024 at 100 Hz, which accommodated the monitor's non-standard shape...

(Dot pitch is variable from 0.27 on the sides to 0.23 in the middle.)
 
I believe it will display your chosen resolution. It's just that the sides will not be as finely rendered as the middle. As a practical matter, I think many folks just consider it a 0.25 pitch monitor and from there find a resolution that appeals to them.
 
That's insane! i knew monitors could force higher resolutions but, not actually provide them. i know that's true with LCD since they have fixed pixle per square inch, every thing just gets a little bit smaller.

To think i can game at the resolution maybe even higher if try to use power strip in windows. maybe i can hit 2304x1440.

that's just nutz, when i was playing HL2 ep 2 @ 1920x1440 it was still able to run AA (GTX480) assuming you could even see the pixels at that resolution.
 
Sony advertised it as a 16:10 monitor. I guess the assumption was that people would letterbox.

However, if you want to use the whole viewable area, the ratio should be something closer to 1.56 as opposed to 1.60. The original post should probably be updated with the monitor's true aspect ratio as this periodically comes up...

"Viewable image size: Approx. 482.1 x 308.2 mm (w/h)"
 
This monitors OPTIMAL setting is 1920x1200@85Hz.. No other res will be as natural and easy for it to produce. Extremely high res can be blurry, Super high Hz can damage things and low res is... Low res.
 
1920 by 1200 will not deliver perfectly round circles, etc., unless you letterbox as it does not correspond to the monitor's physical aspect ratio. It also will probably not be as sharp as lower resolutions, because it leaves no margin for error versus the display's physical pitch.

However, it's a Sony top end CRT and will produce many resolutions flawlessly. You can use whatever works for you.

(Yes, I do imagine super high Hz might take its toll...)
 
cdoublejj said:
keep in mind i'm the one with the dell p992 which is a rebranded Sony CPD-G410R, my dot pitch is 0.24 mm, i'm not sure what the FW900's is.



2304x1440 isn't listed, 1920x1200 is listed. What suck with linux is you can't run games at a higher resolution than the what the desktop is set to, ad at the resolutions everything is to tiny to be comfortable.
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and i realized today that's because mine unlike the awesomer fw900 is 4:3.
 
i Always play my games at 1920x1200@85hz now on this fw900.

2304x1440 comes close to the maximum the monitor can handle.. i hardly see difference anyways.

I bet the longevity of the monitor extends greatly if you never run it above the recommended resolution of 1920x1200@85hz.

Above this resolution you get pixel blend anyways, cause the monitors dot pitch isn't low enough to render all pixels from 2304x1440.

Anyone can give me some explanation of what might happen if you keep running an fw900 at 2304x1440 non-stop? It can't be healthy to let a monitor run close to 100% of its capability all the time, can it?
 
out of curiosity. how is the support for windows 8 for crt monitors? is better than windows 7? I ask because I was thinking about buying a CRT monitor to play, games in 170Hz. over boards videos, and possibly use the full power of the crt monitors, new video cards? without losing refresh rates de monitors crt?
 
"Support" should be the same as any Windows. Also new video cards are still useable for CRT's. There should be no problem using an CRT with Windows 8. If you cant get the Hz you want then you are able to configure them yourself with video driver or powerstrip or many other programs which let you create custom resolutions and refreshrates.
 
Myramond said:
"Support" should be the same as any Windows. Also new video cards are still useable for CRT's. There should be no problem using an CRT with Windows 8. If you cant get the Hz you want then you are able to configure them yourself with video driver or powerstrip or many other programs which let you create custom resolutions and refreshrates.
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Good to know. and in relation to adapters, which is, the best vga adapter cable for new video cards, since the new video cards has no input cables compatible with CRT monitors.
 
Best adapter.... i think there was some DVI to VGA adapter from ATI/AMD (which came with graphics card) which is very good. But hard to say since i dont use such an adapter.

I use DVI to RGBHV BNC cable from Blue Jeans Cable. They are the best of the best.
You can search their webpage. They offer a great range of cables.
 
Hey all
I found an FW900 for 330 I'm not sure if its worth this price or not. It's also a 2 hour drive to get it. I might be able to negotiate a little but probably not much.

My planned usage is just gaming.

Any opinions?
 
Any pictures you got of that monitor?

How many years did he used it? Is he the first user of it?

You should see many pictures of it. So you can see if it has scratches anywhere, especially on the anti-glare or the glass (if he removed the anti-glare). That would bring you to the next question, did he removed the antiglare? Did he washed the screen with alcohols? If the anti-glare has some scratches or something that looks like water stains which do not get away, then you can remove the anti-glare easily. But if the scratches are on the glass than you will never get them away.

High quality pictures of the screen with showing pictures or something would be good and some totally white screen so you can see how the brightness looks and if there are some colors washed out or if the white on the screen isnt white on the edges or so.

There are so many things to watch out before you buy it, especially for this price. For 330$/€ it should be in an good condition.
 
this is the one in kingston listed on kijiji, correct? Seller had it listed for 660 or so a couple months back and reduced it to 330 more recently. If it's in good condition then yes go for it.

Ask the seller if there have been any issues with it, such as popping and going out of focus.
 
cdoublejj said:
2304x1440 isn't listed, 1920x1200 is listed. What suck with linux is you can't run games at a higher resolution than the what the desktop is set to, ad at the resolutions everything is to tiny to be comfortable.
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You could always run a seperate X session for games running at the higher resolution or use xrandr to change on the fly.

I have to do the seperate X session thing anyway cause I have XGL and can't run games on that.

Back in the day I used to run X on my viewsonic P225F CRT @ 2560x1920 at 63 Hz with X set at 75 DPI.

Of course CRT usage is before I upgraded to a dell 3007WFP and got a 22 inch 4k display (3840x2400).

I remember I was maxing out the 400 Mhz pixelclock to get 2560x1920 at >60 Hz on my old p225F.
 
spacediver said:
this is the one in kingston listed on kijiji, correct? Seller had it listed for 660 or so a couple months back and reduced it to 330 more recently. If it's in good condition then yes go for it.

Ask the seller if there have been any issues with it, such as popping and going out of focus.
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Hey,

Ya thats the one, I'm not so sure about it any more. But If I do get serious I'll ask for more pics etc. He did say he got about 6-7 years ago but hasn;t used it in the last 3...

@myramond and @spacediver...thanks for letting me know what to ask for if I get serious about it.
 
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