Windows 8 Has Driven Millions To Become Apple Users

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Windows 8 is so bad it is actually driving millions of people to become Apple users? Riiiight, now I've heard everything. I wonder how many of these "anonymous sources" just happen to be looking for headlines? :rolleyes:

But there are those with even harsher views of Windows 8. Kingsley-Hughes writes that “Privately, one OEM source told me that Microsoft is ‘destroying’ the PC industry, while another claimed that Windows 8 has ‘handed over millions of customers to Apple.’”
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This would be like claiming that because it's hard to find a girlfriend, millions of men became gay.

But seriously, I would use Windows 8 over Mac OS, for software compatibility alone.
 
Rizen said:
This would be like claiming that because it's hard to find a girlfriend, millions of men became gay.

But seriously, I would use Windows 8 over Mac OS, for software compatibility alone.
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The truth keeps slapping people in the face yet they still won't believe it?
 
i think it's pretty accurate
only choice when you buy a new PC is to buy one with Windows 8, which is incredibly shitty, so hence thus people go for alternatives

OEMs are morons by not offering PCs with Windows 7 downgrade options, or Microsoft are morons for preventing this from happening due to whatever licensing agreement they might impose

either way, Microsoft (Ballmer) is at fault
 
I really don't like Windows 8 either. I'm sticking with 7 until they stop supporting it and then I'll be forced to change.
 
Why is this so hard to believe Steve? Are you guys really so anti apple that you'll forgive MS for everything?

Windows 8 is crap. Lot of pro users are avoiding it so its not just that 'noobs' don't understand it or fear change.

You have three options for an OS, two of which most people know about. Linux is not an option for everyday joe. So you have windows or Mac.

Macs have long had a tag line of 'its easier' or 'it just works'. Big part of this is that Apple has removed a lot of customizable options and just assumed a lot of things that most users would want. For us enthusiasts this is annoying because it limits our options and sometimes it may assume wrong. But for everyday users, this is a blessing because less options means less confusion.

My wife used a PC all her life and didn't like the MBP at all when I got it to program for the iPhone. Now she loves it and her PC is collecting dust.
 
If you don't like the UI changes in Windows 8, then why would you go to Apple with a totally different UI?

I don't like Win8, but even I'm getting tired of it being used as the scapegoat for slumping PC sales. For the typical business/home user, any computer from the last 4 years should be more than they will need. There isn't really a reason to replace a computer now, unless it just blows up.
 
InternationalHat said:
That is a really bad analogy
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It was mostly intended as joke, but the point was that it doesn't make sense.

If you don't like Windows 8 because the UI is different and unfamiliar why would you switch to Mac OS, which is even more different?
 
maybe they were talking about apples the fruit or big macs... I know some people get hungry when they get mad
 
I'm confused by this. It says everything is a failure except for Xbox. Yet I love my Windows phone and everyone I talk to that has one also loves it. The same with Surface tablet. As for Windows 8, there are mixed emotions but largely everyone that I know likes it.
 
Everyday it seems that people on the Windows 8 hate bandwagon make more and more ridiculous claims without any evidence. There are no market share trackers showing any mass migration to OS X or Linux and all show Windows 8 more widely used than any version of OS X with Windows 8 projected to become bigger than all of OS X sometime in the 4th quarter.

But of course easily verifiable facts and numbers don't create click bait.
 
Start8, it's FIVE dollars. Right?

If I had to buy a new laptop today, I would have no choice it would come with Win 8. But I can spend $5 to at least get rid of metro.

Actually I would manually downgrade to 7 if I just could not tolerate 8, but I would give it time. But a lot of people aren't up to that challenge, those are the ones that were on the fence between mac and pc in the first place.

Those people are not cruising HardOCP anyway.
 
I really don't like win 8, and I think it's a failure. But this is just silly. I have a mac, and I can make more negative comments about OSX's interface choices than I can about win 8. Some people - sure. Millions - come on now...

80% of all statistics are made up...
 
heatlesssun said:
Everyday it seems that people on the Windows 8 hate bandwagon make more and more ridiculous claims without any evidence. There are no market share trackers showing any mass migration to OS X or Linux and all show Windows 8 more widely used than any version of OS X with Windows 8 projected to become bigger than all of OS X sometime in the 4th quarter.

But of course easily verifiable facts and numbers don't create click bait.
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The Windows love bandwagon is a lot smaller...
 
Wait, the average person who spends $450 on a PC is so angry at how Windows 8 works, they are willing to spend at LEAST $500 more to get a Mac? :confused:
 
Say what you want but I think there is some truth to this.

I am a fairly technical administrator for a technology company and I'm running Windows 8 at work now to test with. Over a good span of time I've grown to "accept" Windows 8 but I find it to be pretty crappy compared to Windows 7. In fact I find it to be mostly WIndows 7 with a pretty subpar user interface for non touch enabled devices.

Personally I just can't seem to find the strength to force any of my users to put up with the metro interface and have already started giving our VP of sales a macbook pro just to test out how it would work for their organization after literally years of being a mac hater.

So for me to even have "considered" supporting apple devices in our environment was a pretty big step in the wrong direction for Microsoft. So the post above wouldn't surprise me at all if it were true.
 
I'd like to see some numbers to support his claim. I can claim sources, too, but without facts or statistics to support the claim, it's just a rumor.

I know a small margin of people probably went to Apple, but as mentioned above: why go to Apple because of a different UI? With Apple, you not only get a different UI, but a whole different core system (which isn't bad at all, BTW). I don't see too many people doing that. Especially businesses. We do have a few things that run on web based applications that would work on a Mac, but damn near everything else is Windows. A lot of businesses aren't going with Windows 8 (staying with 7), but they can't go Mac, either. Home users are usually just sticking it out, not upgrading existing OS's and not buying new PC's. Others really have no problem with Windows 8. There is nothing wrong with OSX, but it just cannot run all these custom applications that were built for the 90% of the market.

Casual users that use Facebook, Gmail, Office apps, and Facetime are fine going to OSX. But, they are a tiny part of the market.
 
Rusty4560 said:
I'm confused by this. It says everything is a failure except for Xbox. Yet I love my Windows phone and everyone I talk to that has one also loves it. The same with Surface tablet. As for Windows 8, there are mixed emotions but largely everyone that I know likes it.
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Windows Phone is pretty awesome, but it's market share sucks. Pretty much no one has one. I know two people who have a Windows Phone. Same thing with Surface tablets in comparison to Android / iOS.
 
Rizen said:
Windows Phone is pretty awesome, but it's market share sucks. Pretty much no one has one. I know two people who have a Windows Phone. Same thing with Surface tablets in comparison to Android / iOS.
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I think people like to go with what they know and what other people have. So iOS and Android are the go tos.
 
Windows 8 is shit but I don't think it would get people suddenly interested in becoming Mac users unless they were already leaning that way. It's as dumb as saying that Windows 8 is driving Ubuntu adoption (though I am sure more than one user has made the switch over it).

Dumping the Start menu from the desktop side of Win8 is easily in the top 5 of worst mistakes Microsoft has ever made and they've screwed the pooch many a time.
 
Rizen said:
Windows Phone is pretty awesome, but it's market share sucks. Pretty much no one has one. I know two people who have a Windows Phone. Same thing with Surface tablets in comparison to Android / iOS.
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I had a WP7 and recently upgraded to a WP8. I see several people with them. Most people have Android, a few with iPhones (they seem to be losing their glamour). A few people with WP's, but not a whole lot. About the same for Blackberry. It's rare. Great phones, though. Just really tough and established competition. Even BB, that was once #1 in smartphones won't get much marketshare with their nice BB10.
 
heatlesssun said:
Everyday it seems that people on the Windows 8 hate bandwagon make more and more ridiculous claims without any evidence. There are no market share trackers showing any mass migration to OS X or Linux and all show Windows 8 more widely used than any version of OS X with Windows 8 projected to become bigger than all of OS X sometime in the 4th quarter.
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You'll say anything to defend MS won't you. It didn't say OS X, it said Apple. People are buying Apple iPads and not Windows 8 computers.
 
Trigger said:
i think it's pretty accurate
only choice when you buy a new PC is to buy one with Windows 8, which is incredibly shitty, so hence thus people go for alternatives

OEMs are morons by not offering PCs with Windows 7 downgrade options, or Microsoft are morons for preventing this from happening due to whatever licensing agreement they might impose

either way, Microsoft (Ballmer) is at fault
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I just bought my kids a new PC and it came with Windows 7 ... Windows 8 was a free upgrade option but I declined that ... and the PC was cheaper than a Mac ... so clearly it is an option if OEMs want to use it ;)
 
Did Apple start making $300 budget desktops and $400 laptops? No? Oh, so it's not handing "millions" of customers to Apple.
 
I don't get all the windows 8 hate. The Metro UI doesn't exist on the desktop which is exactly the same as 7 without the Start Menu. And I'd like to understand why people use the start menu so often that they miss it so much.

I wish the internet was as wide spread when Win95 came out. Would love to hear the bitching about how it ruined Windows 3.1.
 
It would more likely drive me to Linux (Ubuntu) especially with Steam now in the ballpark and Blizzard considering it.
 
O, no, another Microsoft-hater writes a really, really stupid article! (Par for the course.)
 
Bojamijams said:
Why is this so hard to believe Steve? Are you guys really so anti apple that you'll forgive MS for everything?
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If an article like that wants to be taken seriously they need proof. No anonymous sources. Actual proof.


dagamer34 said:
Wait, the average person who spends $450 on a PC is so angry at how Windows 8 works, they are willing to spend at LEAST $500 more to get a Mac? :confused:
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I know, right?
 
Most end-users don't know how to use previous versions of Windows. That's still going to be the case with Windows 8. And I agree with the sentiment already expressed in this thread:

People are not going to return a Windows 8 PC, pay a re-stocking fee, and pay more money for an Apple system that is even more foreign than Windows 8.

Linux for the casual home user? Are you serious?

For God's sake, the endless crying about Windows 8 is ridiculous. Instead of a start menu, you have a start screen. And an app store, which is paradigm that most smartphone users are now familiar with. It's the same pissing and moaning I heard when Microsoft introduced the ribbon interface with Office 2007.
 
Steve said:
If an article like that wants to be taken seriously they need proof. No anonymous sources. Actual proof.

I know, right?
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Could be moving to ipads as well not just MAC's? It does sound a bit much for just MAC's.
 
Koolthulu said:
If you don't like the UI changes in Windows 8, then why would you go to Apple with a totally different UI?
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Well picture someone at an electronics store - someone sees the crappy Metro interface and assumes its for five year olds or the visually impaired, so they look around and see what else is on display. Mac OSX - oh that looks a lot more like the Windows they're used to than Metro. A window-shopper doesnt necessarily immediately know that the familiar windows desktop can be accessed with the Desktop button. First impressions are everything in sales.

Since electronics and office supply stores arent able to stock Windows 7 based devices anymore, you see the dilemma someone non-technical might face.

MacOSX personally gives me a headache but thats just me, Microsoft may be bad lately and trying to model itself after Apple has created a user-hostile transition period with their insistence on making everything conform to a tablet interface, but Apple is truly evil.
 
pxc said:
Did Apple start making $300 budget desktops and $400 laptops? No? Oh, so it's not handing "millions" of customers to Apple.
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If they did, I'd own one.

I have an iPad. It wasn't a replacement for anything, just an extra cool little thing. I use it a lot. Surface was still six months out, and I couldn't wait for a tablet, so I went with it. It's awesome, but it's not a replacement for a PC. Even my wife that does Facebook, email and stuff is finding it has limits and ordered a new purple HP laptop (Win8). I have a Lenovo Twist with Win8 coming.

iPad's are good for the very casual user. It gets difficult when you want to do anything more productive than check and return email.
 
it's almost like dumping your faithful wife of 10 years just because she got a shorter hair cut

but ya know, it's your choice and that's fine. if you find yourself more productive with apple then good for you!
 
Rizen said:
This would be like claiming that because it's hard to find a girlfriend, millions of men became gay.

But seriously, I would use Windows 8 over Mac OS, for software compatibility alone.
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That is actually the perfect analogy.
 
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