I ordered a 3570 instead of a 3570K

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Cally

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I never planned on overclocking to begin with but I had planned to buy the K version originally. I ordered the cpu late at night and after 10 minutes had past and I looked the invoice over and saw my error. I tried to cancel the order with NE but they sent me a e mail telling me they were unable to and my only way to do that was refuse the shipment.
I bought this cpu for less than $200 and am happy with the amount. Never having planned to OC it did I make a mistake by buying it and should I refuse the shipment and buy the K version after the refund is given?
 
Unless you use Quick-Sync a lot or need the HD4000 iGPU for whatever reason, there's no need to go for the k version if you're not overclocking. Besides, the 3570 should still be able to overclock to ~4.1 ghz or so.
 
Newegg will let you return an unopened item with no restocking fee. Just order a 3570K from them and ship the 3570 back to them in the box it arrives in. It couldn't cost you more than $10 to ship.
 
it cant be, i was always able to cancel my NE orders even after an hour.

you sure you werent stoned?
 
No I wasn't stoned that's for sure. I did receive the e mail that said they couldn't cancel the order and this was 10 minutes after the order was placed with no one there on a Sunday night. I even tried to call customer service to verify that but no one was home.

Tsumi I don't use the sysnc feature and I am planning on using a Nvidia 670 for graphics. I guess I am good to go then and will accept the order.


Zinn sry but I don't see why I would accept the package rather than accept it only to have to pay shipping to send it back to them? Then I would need to RMA it. By not accepting it the order is cancelled and would be returned to them on their dime. Maybe I am missing something with that logic, I dunno.
 
Just refuse the delivery like you said. You can even refuse a package that has already been delivered. Just leave the outer box sealed and take it back to the carrier. Newegg will refund you fully.

The K version will be much easier to resell.
 
I would rather go with the Intel® Core™ i5-3570K (because I will overclock and I like having the HD4000 backup graphics). However the Intel Core i5-3570 is a very good processor. If it wasn't for the Intel Core i5-3570K even one would be talking about how good of a processor this is. If you are not going to use the extra features of the "K" and you like the price that you got keep it and be happy.
 
Tsumi said:
Unless you use Quick-Sync a lot or need the HD4000 iGPU for whatever reason, there's no need to go for the k version if you're not overclocking. Besides, the 3570 should still be able to overclock to ~4.1 ghz or so.
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QuickSync is a fixed-function unit that's technically independent of the GPU (though built with it). QuickSync will perform the same with HD2000/3000 or 2500/4000.

If you're not overclocking then there's no difference. If you're using a discrete GPU then you won't notice a difference in video either.
 
If it's worth mentioning, unlike the 3570, the 3570k lacks vPro, VT-d, and TXT. Of course, these features may be of no use to you at all.
 
drescherjm said:
I do not see this as a big problem. Who in their right mind would want to overclock their VM host machine?
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Yeah but what about people that prefer the K version for the 4000 graphics and don't need a discrete card?

Granted, I never overclock so I don't care about that aspect of a processor, but sometimes the K is on sale when the other is not, or whatever, and you have to trudge through Intel's ridiculous feature map to see if your processor has all the magic you want.

I just don't see the benefits of having five thousand different models for a single generation of processors.
 
jwcalla said:
I just don't see the benefits of having five thousand different models for a single generation of processors.
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You don't, but Intel does. Creating different SKUs by locking or unlocking different features allows them to charge more for those features and create a variety of products.

There's a good reason why a majority of enthusiasts who buy unlocked chips are also forced to pay extra for HD4000/HD3000 despite the fact that most of them use discrete graphics anyway.

$$$$$$
 
Brahmzy said:
Who wouldn't?!?! If it's stable, it's stable.
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You increase the risk of errors the higher you go up in clock speed // vcore.

Stable for gaming is a whole lot different than stable for critical virtualization work.
 
pelo said:
You increase the risk of errors the higher you go up in clock speed // vcore.

Stable for gaming is a whole lot different than stable for critical virtualization work.
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If the virtualization work is critical, then you'd probably want to use ECC RAM. But oops, that puts you into a different chipset and processor (unless you find one of the needles in the Core i3 haystack).

Don't worry, I'm just whining. :)

But seriously though... I do decidedly very non-critical VM stuff, so VT-d would be a nice feature. It's just annoying that 3570K wouldn't represent "3570, plus a little more". Not that I have this processor or anything, I'm just verbalizing a gripe I have w/ the way Intel rolls these secondary features.
 
pelo said:
You increase the risk of errors the higher you go up in clock speed // vcore.

Stable for gaming is a whole lot different than stable for critical virtualization work.
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Who uses a i5 and not a xeon with ecc for a critical system other than noobs?
 
jwcalla said:
I can't believe how obnoxious Intel is with their feature fragmentation. :rolleyes:
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It does get annoying at times, but I can see why they would want to lock certain markets to certain processors; a regular or office user usually doesn't need to overclock, and the gamer / enthusiast crowd usually doesn't require those extra features. Key word here is usually, though.

I remember Ars running a feature on this topic a while back, and how it was aggravating that the product names didn't line up with expected features.
 
something no one has mentioned here is that in the future if you ever sell the cpu you may be able to get more out of the "K" version then the other one... but that depends on how often you upgrade... or if youre like me i keep my computers forever so it wouldnt really matter which one you got
 
pstang said:
something no one has mentioned here is that in the future if you ever sell the cpu you may be able to get more out of the "K" version then the other one... but that depends on how often you upgrade... or if youre like me i keep my computers forever so it wouldnt really matter which one you got
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I'm kind of like you. I build them and use them up to the point you can see the difference and need to replace them.
I am going to accept the delivery and just be happy with what I bought.
 
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