WD Red drives?

I'm still buying Hitachi HDDs myself. I've been seeing the 4TB 5400rpm Hitachi drives for about $230-240 recently.
 
This makes me worrisome to purchase a new hard drive with all these failures. The only hard drives that failed on me are from Seagate, Toshiba and Maxtor. It's news like this that make me think twice before I buy from Western Digital. I just might have to run all Samsung drives for now on...
 
2k3eblade said:
This makes me worrisome to purchase a new hard drive with all these failures. The only hard drives that failed on me are from Seagate, Toshiba and Maxtor. It's news like this that make me think twice before I buy from Western Digital. I just might have to run all Samsung drives for now on...
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This isn't a shock, WD Green and Black drives have been having very high failure rates since 2010.
In fact, a month ago a WD Scorpio Black died on one of our client's laptops; it was only two months old.

Seagate has been improving since 2011 and yeah, Samsung drives ftl.
 
Personally I'm only buying green drives (as in 5X00rpm), I've tons of Seagate green, WD green, Samsung green, no Hitachi since those are too expensive and rare here. With Seagate just abandoning the market of green drives I'm left with WD green or WD red.
 
2k3eblade said:
This makes me worrisome to purchase a new hard drive with all these failures. The only hard drives that failed on me are from Seagate, Toshiba and Maxtor. It's news like this that make me think twice before I buy from Western Digital. I just might have to run all Samsung drives for now on...
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All drives fail, it is a fact of life. That is why backup is a necessity, not an option. If your data is important and/or valuable, it becomes a question of how much $$$ you are willing to put towards safeguarding it.
 
Aesma said:
With Seagate just abandoning the market of green drives...
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Has there been an announcement or news story to that effect? Seagate is currently selling both their own Barracuda Green drives and the Samsung EcoGreen drives that they acquired in the purchase of Samsung's HDD business.
 
JJ Johnson said:
Has there been an announcement or news story to that effect? Seagate is currently selling both their own Barracuda Green drives and the Samsung EcoGreen drives that they acquired in the purchase of Samsung's HDD business.
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http://storageeffect.media.seagate....ect/why-seagate-said-goodbye-to-green-drives/

To quote from the article... '“The new 1TB/disk Barracuda drives have a nearly identical power-consumption as Barracuda Green, but deliver much higher performance."
 
mwroobel said:
http://storageeffect.media.seagate....ect/why-seagate-said-goodbye-to-green-drives/

To quote from the article... '“The new 1TB/disk Barracuda drives have a nearly identical power-consumption as Barracuda Green, but deliver much higher performance."
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That story is almost a year old, yet Seagate is still selling the Barracuda Green drives.

It's unclear from the story. Are they saying that they're dropping 5xxx RPM drives, or just the word 'Green' from the model names? If they're going to only have a single product line for the desktop, my bet is that they'd drop the 7200 RPM drives instead.
 
JJ Johnson said:
That story is almost a year old, yet Seagate is still selling the Barracuda Green drives.

It's unclear from the story. Are they saying that they're dropping 5xxx RPM drives, or just the word 'Green' from the model names? If they're going to only have a single product line for the desktop, my bet is that they'd drop the 7200 RPM drives instead.
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There are still drives in the channel that are available, but officially they are no longer current. If you check out Seagate's Desktop Drives Page, it still mentions 5900RPM drives in the opening graphic (because there are still some available for sale at resellers until stock sells through) but if you check out the Barracuda Data Sheet, you will see that only 7200RPM drives are current.
 
JoeComp said:
I'm still buying Hitachi HDDs myself. I've been seeing the 4TB 5400rpm Hitachi drives for about $230-240 recently.
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I just picked up a couple of the 4tb to add to the 2 I already had, a local computer shop had them instock.
I picked up the 7200rpm ones for $259.99.
 
The fact that there are some old Seagate greens or Samsung F4 doesn't matter much, 3TB is the most interesting size and there are no greens nor Samsung 3TB.
 
Form what I was told expect them back in stock in quantity by the second week in October (possibly sooner)
 
I'm looking for some drives to use in a Dell Poweredge R515 array for a MS data protection manager. Would these WD Red's fit the bill? Was going to do 6 in RAID 50 with a hot spare on a PERC 700 card.
 
gunbust3r said:
I'm looking for some drives to use in a Dell Poweredge R515 array for a MS data protection manager. Would these WD Red's fit the bill? Was going to do 6 in RAID 50 with a hot spare on a PERC 700 card.
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If you are going to do HW RAID with 3TB drives, please consider using RAID6/60 as opposed to 5/50. With arrays of these size drives, the chances of two failures (original plus remaining) in the rebuild window (especially for a business server) make this a no-brainer.
 
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Dami said:
Dont know if it deserves a new thread or not...but anyway:
Western Digital Launches 4 TB WD RE SAS, WD RE SATA Hard Drives
Too pricey and lack of 1tb/platter. Wouldn't be suprised If they just put the WD sticker on top of hitachi ultrastars.
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I have to question the pricing listed due to the fact that the Dual-Ported SAS drives are only $20 more than the RE SATA drives (4TB for example) and are starting to show up in the mid-500's to mid-600's on websites which have listed them in single quantity (some are only listing 20 unit cases right now).
 
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$229 for Americans ouch.. just ordered four 3TB Reds @ $179 each on newegg.ca :p Its not very often for us Canadians to get a better deal on electronics.
 
Wow, you guys are quick. I was just coming here to inform the collective that the 3TB WD Reds are, in fact, in stock over at newegg.ca for $179.99 right now.
 
Woah, Newegg has the 2TBs in stock again and they kept the price at $119! That is great news for the market and a sign that that:

  • NewEgg is pretty confident that they will be recieving them in quantity for the forseeable future
  • The initial price gouging was likely do to low stock and not the price that WD was inflating it to be
Hopefully it pushes the 3TB down as well.
 
But the 3TB WD Red is at $230 at newegg, well over the $60/TB that seems to be the going rate now. A 4TB Hitachi 5K4000 can be had for about $240.
 
Well, you (and probably many others) are ordering by the truckloads, so this is no surprise !
 
Is there a huge number of duds or what? I typically have no issues with parts, maybe I'm just lucky, but I ordered two of the 1TB drives and one was DOA. A lot of people in the Newegg reviews seem to be getting DOA drives.

On the bright side, looks like there will soon be a HUGE stock of refurb drives on the market.
 
djoye said:
Is there a huge number of duds or what? I typically have no issues with parts, maybe I'm just lucky, but I ordered two of the 1TB drives and one was DOA. A lot of people in the Newegg reviews seem to be getting DOA drives.

On the bright side, looks like there will soon be a HUGE stock of refurb drives on the market.
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Part of the issue is no doubt with the way Newegg is packaging their drives for shipping, as that has been a common theme for them lately.
 
McTurkey said:
Part of the issue is no doubt with the way Newegg is packaging their drives for shipping, as that has been a common theme for them lately.
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Mine was packaged quite securely inside a box inside another larger box stuffed with packing paper. No sign of damage on the boxes. Maybe they're playing frisbee with them before packaging.

Also, the other drive that the NAS seems to recognize (bay number is lit up) my computers don't recognize for some reason.
 
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These wd red drives caught my eye when I saw they were meant for NAS's but I have a simple samba file server just for media. Would I benefit from getting wd red's or can I save a few bucks and get some wd green's? I'm just streaming hd video to my htpc.
 
These are noted as mostly for NAS use.

My question is, can they still be used as drives in a Server, such as a Server 2012 Standard or Essentials server?

We've seen instances where these 'special' drives ended up not being bootable, or not reliably bootable. If I buy 6 of these things I wanna be sure LOL

My 1TB Green Drives in my server are getting a bit old. It's time to start swapping them out a couple at a time.
 
I would think they would be fine for a server, it's really the same op pattern. They aren't anything exotic, they are just green drives with tler enabled, maybe a little better vibration resistance and firmware tweaked for 24/7 operation.
 
dave99 said:
I would think they would be fine for a server, it's really the same op pattern. They aren't anything exotic, they are just green drives with tler enabled, maybe a little better vibration resistance and firmware tweaked for 24/7 operation.
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I wonder if that's true. If it is, I'd bet that it's simply by binning drives that vibrate less, otherwise they're most likely the exact same drives with different firmware and a different label.
 
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