Dragon Age 3: Inquisition Announced

The only thing that bothers me about DA3 is Bioware/EA trying so hard to pretend they care about player feedback. Many of the problems with DA2 were obvious, and it didn't take a genius to figure out that removing party member customization and re-using the same maps REPEATEDLY was going to be an issue.

It's like selling someone a BLT, but they left out the bacon. Then they launch a PR campaign that wants to know why people didn't like the BLT.
 
The only thing that bothers me about DA3 is Bioware/EA trying so hard to pretend they care about player feedback. Many of the problems with DA2 were obvious, and it didn't take a genius to figure out that removing party member customization and re-using the same maps REPEATEDLY was going to be an issue.

It's like selling someone a BLT, but they left out the bacon. Then they launch a PR campaign that wants to know why people didn't like the BLT.

Exactly. And then instead of advertising the new BLT by saying "Now including 100% real bacon once again!!" they say "Now including 20% tastier ingredients!" and skirting around the question on everyone's mind.
 
man what are you smoking, thats asking way to much :(

I'm a Bioware employee. They told me that EA would lay off on this one. And also EA plans to listen to fan feedback from now on. Almost forgot, EA also plans to announce that their games will no longer require Origin.
 
EA also plans to announce that their games will no longer require Origin.

Now THAT is welcome news, I might even start buying EA games again, now the trick is for them to make an actual good product worth my money.

They have done it in the past, I'd like to see them do it again, I welcome new titles to install on my computer and new worlds to explore.

If you work for Bioware, sneak me in there as an NPC :p
 
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It it's "Inquisition" i'm gussing Morrigan wont be in it for long.

Cept I would say she will be. Just because it's an inquisition doesn't mean mages would somehow magically have no powers all of the sudden.

Also are you forgetting Flemeth? Just how powerful she is and what she can do? I would say Morrigan is just as powerful if not more so, I wouldn't write her off quickly at all.

Furthermore i'd say (if she is back) she'll have a large part of the story, I hope.
 
Cept I would say she will be. Just because it's an inquisition doesn't mean mages would somehow magically have no powers all of the sudden.

Also are you forgetting Flemeth? Just how powerful she is and what she can do? I would say Morrigan is just as powerful if not more so, I wouldn't write her off quickly at all.

Furthermore i'd say (if she is back) she'll have a large part of the story, I hope.

A mage like Flemeth, if not Flemeth, is pulling the strings for the inquisition. She's using it to leverage power over all other mages to subjugate them so that she will have no rivals. It's ultimate power without other mages to keep you in check.
 
I'm a Bioware employee. They told me that EA would lay off on this one. And also EA plans to listen to fan feedback from now on. Almost forgot, EA also plans to announce that their games will no longer require Origin.


would be amazing if you were not just trolling us, can hope :) time will tell though this will be the first Bioware game i will not preorder in like 10 or 12 years :/ will wait for the fan reviews cant trust Game Media no more :(

Time will tell if you speak the truth or not...... hope you are though
 
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I'll help you all out now. Don't theorize about story lines or game play. Even the worst that you can come up with will be bested. Don't disappoint yourselves. Just let it be and move onto another game. : )
 
I'm a Bioware employee. They told me that EA would lay off on this one. And also EA plans to listen to fan feedback from now on. Almost forgot, EA also plans to announce that their games will no longer require Origin.

Probably a troll, but here's hoping somebody at EA is actually thinking this.
 
ah man... next time I make sarcastic remarks, I'll have to make even more absurd statements so that people will catch on with the joking.
 
BioWare needs to take their time with DA 3. DA 2's limit and often repeated environments killed the game. I'll probably wait to see player feedback before plopping down money for this game.
 
Rats leaving a sinking ship? EA up to their old tricks, a la Westwood Studios? After the backlashes from DA2, ME3 and the dropping subscription numbers of SW: TOR, they may see the writing on the wall.

Are they still rehashing Madden Football?

No they don;t see the writing.
 
As f'ing terrible as the ending to ME3 was...by playing the game you can see they really did listen to fan feedback from ME1 > 2 > 3. Even in 2, you could see they listened; they swung the pendulum too far the other way, but I think they hit the sweet spot in ME3 - up until 95% of the way through, it was GOTY material.

DA2...I have no f'ing clue what happened there. I think it was primarily the shortened timeframe, although the whole idea of pretty much abandoning most of the first game's storyline is bizarre. Even with that though, the graphics were quite good, fully voiced main character was nice and I actually did somewhat enjoy the more stylized combat, minus the random spawns. And the art direction of darkspawn from DA:O > 2 was stupid...from demonic scary creatures to ninja zombies?!

I think if given time, which as noted before they've already had more time than with DA2, DA3 can or will be worth playing, even if it doesn't raise to the same level of DA:O. I sure hope it does. But damn, I can't wait to see it either way on Frostbite 2! :eek:
 
Dunno why DA3 is already getting bashed. DA2 was pretty bad (I haven't even brought myself to play it yet) but DA:O was one of my favorite game of all time, and Mass Effect 1, 2, and 3 were fantastic games. Yeah, 3's ending sucked, but the ~30 hours up until that point to me were amazing so I can't discredit that.

I'll take a wait and see approach.

Also, I'm not sure why people are upset about using Frostbite2? That engine is fantastic, scales well, looks great - DX11, modern features. What's not to like? You realize that MANY RPGs were powered by the UE3 engine, right?
 
Dunno why DA3 is already getting bashed. DA2 was pretty bad (I haven't even brought myself to play it yet) but DA:O was one of my favorite game of all time, and Mass Effect 1, 2, and 3 were fantastic games. Yeah, 3's ending sucked, but the ~30 hours up until that point to me were amazing so I can't discredit that.

I'll take a wait and see approach.

Also, I'm not sure why people are upset about using Frostbite2? That engine is fantastic, scales well, looks great - DX11, modern features. What's not to like? You realize that MANY RPGs were powered by the UE3 engine, right?

Yea...and none of those "RPGs" were remotely close to the combat style of DA:O, they were all basically linear FPS games.
 
Dunno why DA3 is already getting bashed. DA2 was pretty bad (I haven't even brought myself to play it yet) but DA:O was one of my favorite game of all time, and Mass Effect 1, 2, and 3 were fantastic games. Yeah, 3's ending sucked, but the ~30 hours up until that point to me were amazing so I can't discredit that.

I'll take a wait and see approach.

Also, I'm not sure why people are upset about using Frostbite2? That engine is fantastic, scales well, looks great - DX11, modern features. What's not to like? You realize that MANY RPGs were powered by the UE3 engine, right?

Lot's of us think that ME1>>ME2>ME3, DA:O>>>>DA2. Bioware quality has gone down over the years. It's hard to be optimistic.

I mean, I love the end of the Life of Brian, but that was satire. :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Wx230gYJw
 
An engine doesn't define the types of games that can be made on it.

No...but I highly doubt that an engine for FPS games will be reworked into anything remotely resembling a 3rd-person pause/play tactical mechanic. DA3 will probably be at best a 3rd person shooter game. The combat style that made DA;O loved by fans is in all likelihood dead.

I could eat my words...but EA has been moving all their titles hell or high water into a 1st or 3rd person shooter mechanic. I can't think of a major title from them lately that is anything but.
 
Yea...and none of those "RPGs" were remotely close to the combat style of DA:O, they were all basically linear FPS games.
The engine doesn't dictate the play style, it's used for the rendering. People have built MMOs off CryEngine, and they don't play like Crysis :rolleyes:
 
Lot's of us think that ME1>>ME2>ME3, DA:O>>>>DA2. Bioware quality has gone down over the years. It's hard to be optimistic.

I mean, I love the end of the Life of Brian, but that was satire. :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Wx230gYJw
I liked ME1's inventory and character customization more than ME2 or 3, but pretty much every other aspect of the next 2 games was better IMO. No more fucking side missions where you have to drive around a randomly generated planet, ugh.
 
I liked ME1's inventory and character customization more than ME2 or 3, but pretty much every other aspect of the next 2 games was better IMO. No more fucking side missions where you have to drive around a randomly generated planet, ugh.

I don't care too much about that. ME1 felt like a better story overall, as well. The ME3 story wasn't just bad at the end, there were more than a couple derper moments from the very start. I couldn't suspend my disbelief enough to enjoy it, sadly.

Bioware has to pull a rabbit and a stripper out of their hat to wow anyone at this point.
 
I don't care too much about that. ME1 felt like a better story overall, as well. The ME3 story wasn't just bad at the end, there were more than a couple derper moments from the very start. I couldn't suspend my disbelief enough to enjoy it, sadly.

Bioware has to pull a rabbit and a stripper out of their hat to wow anyone at this point.

ME1's main story was better, but I think the character stories in ME2 where better. Whether it was the continuation of the stories of the better ME1 characters or some of the new ones, ME2's cast felt more fleshed out. Jacob could have been removed and nothing would have changed, but I'll take one useless asshole over both Kaiden and Ashley. 3 put a nice finishing touch on their stories, but that's about the only good thing I can say about it's plot. I find 2 to be the most replayable of the trilogy, ME1's gameplay mechanics are really clunkly, they were vastly improved in 2 and 3. 1 relied too much on stats effect shooting which made the gunplay feel weak, where-as 2 went a little too far in the shooter direction, 3 put it all together the best.

As for Bioware impressing me anymore? Meh. Just give me a good game and I'm happy. Despite DA2 and ME3 I'm still willing to keep an eye on a Bioware RPG. They just confirmed that they're working on a new Mass Effect title so I'm quite curious what they're going to do.
 
Bring together the main (living) protaganists from DA:O and DAII, unite them against Morrigan/Flemeth (or in cahoots with them, your choice!) and you've got a pretty damn good game. But do it under the auspices of the Grey Wardens damnit, they are way too badass to just drop from the story. I still remember the short little scene where they showed up in DA2, I restarted a previous save and tried every dialogue path to see if I could somehow go with them... :(
 
As for Bioware impressing me anymore? Meh. Just give me a good game and I'm happy. Despite DA2 and ME3 I'm still willing to keep an eye on a Bioware RPG. They just confirmed that they're working on a new Mass Effect title so I'm quite curious what they're going to do.

Crazy. A new Mass Effect plus a new IP. I hate reading the following, though:

"But the Mass Effect universe is vast, and Casey and our teams have plans for another full game."

To me that says it's going to take place within the ME universe but along side the events as ME1-ME3. I'd really be bummed if it turned out to be something like that.
 
Crazy. A new Mass Effect plus a new IP. I hate reading the following, though:

"But the Mass Effect universe is vast, and Casey and our teams have plans for another full game."

To me that says it's going to take place within the ME universe but along side the events as ME1-ME3. I'd really be bummed if it turned out to be something like that.

Call me a fanboi (probably true), but I would really like to play through as Aria taking over Omega and more of her backstory...I always found her very interesting.
 
Bring together the main (living) protaganists from DA:O and DAII, unite them against Morrigan/Flemeth (or in cahoots with them, your choice!) and you've got a pretty damn good game. But do it under the auspices of the Grey Wardens damnit, they are way too badass to just drop from the story. I still remember the short little scene where they showed up in DA2, I restarted a previous save and tried every dialogue path to see if I could somehow go with them... :(

I had the same "Get me out of this game" moment at that point.
 
ME1's main story was better, but I think the character stories in ME2 where better. Whether it was the continuation of the stories of the better ME1 characters or some of the new ones, ME2's cast felt more fleshed out. Jacob could have been removed and nothing would have changed, but I'll take one useless asshole over both Kaiden and Ashley. 3 put a nice finishing touch on their stories, but that's about the only good thing I can say about it's plot. I find 2 to be the most replayable of the trilogy, ME1's gameplay mechanics are really clunkly, they were vastly improved in 2 and 3. 1 relied too much on stats effect shooting which made the gunplay feel weak, where-as 2 went a little too far in the shooter direction, 3 put it all together the best.

As for Bioware impressing me anymore? Meh. Just give me a good game and I'm happy. Despite DA2 and ME3 I'm still willing to keep an eye on a Bioware RPG. They just confirmed that they're working on a new Mass Effect title so I'm quite curious what they're going to do.

Gunplay and encounter design did feel the best in 3. Still, too many carefully arranged by cokehead boxes to hide behind.
 
Bring together the main (living) protaganists from DA:O and DAII, unite them against Morrigan/Flemeth (or in cahoots with them, your choice!) and you've got a pretty damn good game. But do it under the auspices of the Grey Wardens damnit, they are way too badass to just drop from the story. I still remember the short little scene where they showed up in DA2, I restarted a previous save and tried every dialogue path to see if I could somehow go with them... :(

The trouble with that would be that I would have to play all the way through DA2.

Call me a fanboi (probably true), but I would really like to play through as Aria taking over Omega and more of her backstory...I always found her very interesting.

Hmm, yes, that could be quite interesting indeed. I think I could really dig that, but it would lack the "save the galaxy" intensity for which the Mass Effect series is known. A full fledged game like that might be terrific in its own right, though. I always liked the Asari, and just a regular non "super epic OMG" game might be nice for a change.

It does look like the next SP DLC is titled "omega," so who knows? They might use it as a jumping-off point for their next game. I don't know. Since the Extended Cut, I wonder whether they should even bother making any more games within the ME universe.
 
It does look like the next SP DLC is titled "omega," so who knows? They might use it as a jumping-off point for their next game. I don't know. Since the Extended Cut, I wonder whether they should even bother making any more games within the ME universe.

True, my enthusiasm is down the gutter for the series. I have hundreds of hours and a half dozen playthroughs; but 2 ME3 playthroughs, and never d/l'ed or even bothered to Youtube the extended cut. Just don't give a damn at this point, polish that turd all you want it isn't turning into shinola.

Still, I really want to see what they do with DA3. DA:O was such an incredible game, I'd take a straight major expansion pack for $30-$40 for it.
 
Bring together the main (living) protaganists from DA:O and DAII, unite them against Morrigan/Flemeth (or in cahoots with them, your choice!) and you've got a pretty damn good game. But do it under the auspices of the Grey Wardens damnit, they are way too badass to just drop from the story. I still remember the short little scene where they showed up in DA2, I restarted a previous save and tried every dialogue path to see if I could somehow go with them... :(


I am not sure if it's a case of people not having talked to Morrigan in DA:O or what but (spoilers for DA:O below, what the heck is the spoiler tag on this forum btw? I tried spoiler, spoilers, hide, nothing works)




[hide] Morrigan isn't a "bad" character imo. Throughout DA:O if you talk to her and build her up and open all of her dialogue options you realize that she uses her sass/sarcasm as a cover up really. Flemeth basically was using her, and she realized this. She opened up to the warden and trusted him. I didn't get the feeling that she'd be "bad" or turn out to be like Flemeth in the least.

I think if she's in DAIII that she won't be "evil" and instead, morally grey, much like she was in DA:O. you were able to help shape her somehwat, try and teach her a bit and you got to see a vunerable side of her that players who ignored her or didn't build her up didn't.

If you romanced Morrigan you could end up having a kid with her in DA:O, then she leaves, what happened to her/the kid is still a mystery and imo would play a part in DA:III.

Personally, I would love it if DA:III let you come back as your DA:O character, meet up with a lot of the old crew + hawke and some of the others from DA:II.

The storyline that DA:O and II sets up , with the name of III hints at a clash between magic users, the chantary, etc. It is not too far fetched if they basically took the people in DA:O/II and let use go from there with both suite of characters. [/hide]
 
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