GeForce GTX 690 - Perfection Inside and Out @ [H]

[DeathPrincess]

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Those are some weird charts...I think someone messed up...
For example, why is a single 690 on metro 2033 on the left over 60FPS, but on the right, 2 690s are about 50? Both of the charts are al identical settings.

 

[Jcazz]

Still not enough video memory for me. Ill pass until next year...see what AMD and Nvidia have then. time to save new pennies. ahh yes one shiny one.

 

[sonsonate]

Still not enough video memory for me. Ill pass until next year...see what AMD and Nvidia have then. time to save new pennies. ahh yes one shiny one.

Waiting for 6GB and 8GB, huh? I'm looking foward to 10GB+

 

[hdgamer]

Yeah I want extra vram that I will never use and by the time I will be able to use it my gpu will be too slow so I think I'll pass too.

 

[Melon]

So before the price was officially announced I was considering maybe purchasing one of these gtx 690s if they were in the $700 range, however with that $999 price tag I'm going to pass on it. I'd rather have two seperate 680s for that price instead of the 690. I'm interested in seeing what the release of the AMD 7990 does to the 690 pricing if it can compete well with nvidia's offering.

Sigh, people's basic math skills are terrible.

Why would two 680's cost $700 when one costs $500?

 

[Trevor]

anyone know the length? curious to see if itll fit in an sg-08 (12.2" card max)

This! Anyone?

 

[sonsonate]

Yeah I want extra vram that I will never use and by the time I will be able to use it my gpu will be too slow so I think I'll pass too.

Oh hush, you! 16GB on my girl's system is overkill for me. I remember when I had like, 64MB and thought that was a lot.

 

[Florin22xxl]

Sigh, people's basic math skills are terrible.

Why would two 680's cost $700 when one costs $500?

My guess is because it usses one pc instead of two,isnt two pcbs more expensive to produce than one?) not to mention just 2x power pins not 4 ,also the outputs just 3 instead of 6,screws to hold the cooler,690 has 1 vent vs 2 from 2 680, and so on and so forth!!!! The cost of production should be lower since it usses less materials,NO? )) the list could go on but people get the general ideea.
Ps: did i mention time of production?) also the boxes they come in,1 box is cheaper than 2 boxes,the cables they put in is 2x less etc etc

 

[xorbe]

This! Anyone?

Where's that leaked photo, it was pretty clear. Could probably estimate from that, but yeah hard numbers are best.

 

[night_2004]

Sigh, people's basic math skills are terrible.

Why would two 680's cost $700 when one costs $500?

Maybe the GPU is $200 and the PCB is $300? Might want to brush up on those algebra skills and solving for multiple variables .

 

[Damar]

My guess is because it usses one pc instead of two,isnt two pcbs more expensive to produce than one?) not to mention just 2x power pins not 4 ,also the outputs just 3 instead of 6,screws to hold the cooler,690 has 1 vent vs 2 from 2 680, and so on and so forth!!!! The cost of production should be lower since it usses less materials,NO? )) the list could go on but people get the general ideea.
Ps: did i mention time of production?) also the boxes they come in,1 box is cheaper than 2 boxes,the cables they put in is 2x less etc etc

Maybe the GPU is $200 and the PCB is $300? Might want to brush up on those algebra skills and solving for multiple variables .

Lets of course completely forget that they need to recoup development costs or that more money went into the cooling solution for the single card.

 

[BlueStorm]

Sorry I am a little confused. Would this be just as good as a single core card of the same power but with 4gb on it?

No. It's the same as an SLI setup with two 2GB gpus. It's sold as 4GB because you are technically buying 4GB of ram.

 

[MrLonghair]

If I was an über hardcore gamer still using a CRT for the sake of input lag and refresh rates, I would get this despite the VRAM issue which is an issue since it's a grand expensive card. The faster those framerates the better when you're at my league, I play Tribes Ascend uncapped in 720p using a minecrafty config and it helps.

 

[CherryBOMB]

Not sure why so many are confused on pricing? Its been 9 years since Nvidia used the famed (6) or (68) or (68/0) The Geforce 6800Ultra was going for $600 in 2004 - ASUS version was as high as $800 - a single slot card.
This 68/0 represents the first ever SLI card and technology to market back then in 2004.
Nothing has changed in pricing in all these years. Game is still the same - chips are and will be scarce in availability. Just the same way it was back then on the launch of the 6800ULTRA and many cards there after.
Newegg link 6800ULTRA
Newegg link ASUS 6800ULTRA V9999
Old $749 link

I was a buyer back then at these numbers and would be again today. Try $1190 for SLI in 2004 !

[H] show off your video card thread 3/12/2005 page 72

Nothing new here but TIME! 9 years later.
Toms hardware 13 years of Nvidia Graphics Cards page 14 6800ULTRA first ever SLI

 

[phiberoptik]

$999 is reasonably priced, you gotta pay to play.

 

[Florin22xxl]

The only thing that changed is that people have less money with this crysis and all ) wich ofc doesnt apply to americans ) guess there are many new gamers who were not here fee years ago.

 

[BlueStorm]

Gotta ask Nvidia that one. It might be something that limits them? No idea.

Yes you can SLI 2 690's. That would be quad-sli

If you have an inherently faster and slower gpu in an SLI setup you're introducing micro stutter... Alternating lopsided render times.

 

[ZoNe]

Do ppl that spend $1000 on video cards air cool? Should have come with a water block. Beautiful cooler though.

 

[Rakky]

I am running 2560X1440 resolution and the GTX 560 448 is running great! it lacks VRam which is why I am looking for a new 6 series card but performance is great.

I was thinking of getting the 690 if it was $800 or less but it just seems like it would be much smarter for me to buy a GTX 680 which should run all my games perfect at 50-60 fps at max resolution and just upgrade next year again!

you have to wonder how many people overbuy their GPUs? like the people that SLI GTX 680 on their 1080p setups? so they can get 150 FPS, whats the point?

120fps looks a lot nicer than 60fps.

 

[Zarathustra[H]]

Finally they are putting real effort into solving that problem. If this really works, the 7990 is useless.

I still wish they would instead focus on killing off AFR and instead make their various SFR modes better and more compatible.

AFR will always be a dud due to the increased input lag it inherently brings with it.

 

[WorldExclusive]

Do ppl that spend $1000 on video cards air cool? Should have come with a water block. Beautiful cooler though.

The 690 is no different than buying two separate 680s.
Also, most people don't want the hassle and extra cost of WC.

 

[BlueStorm]

Maybe the GPU is $200 and the PCB is $300? Might want to brush up on those algebra skills and solving for multiple variables .

The majority of a GPU's cost is in the gpu and video memory. "saving" isn't really saving when it's a custom board like this. Besides on the whole the cost of the PCB is not much.

 

[BlueStorm]

I still wish they would instead focus on killing off AFR and instead make their various SFR modes better and more compatible.

AFR will always be a dud due to the increased input lag it inherently brings with it.

SFR will never scale like AFR because it is replicating some of the frame's work on both GPUs. Also SFR has been moved away from because it's basically extremely incompatible with deferred renderers (just like MSAA) which most games are these days.

 

[WorldExclusive]

The majority of a GPU's cost is in the gpu and video memory. "saving" isn't really saving when it's a custom board like this. Besides on the whole the cost is not much.

Right. Some people are only counting the cost of the GPUs and PCB, and expecting a price difference.
They forgot to account for the NASA/Bugatti/F-22 inspired custom cooling solution.

The 690 looks like an gpu engineering marvel.

 

[Wysockisauce]

Gonna try and bag one for a micro atx build. This card is perfect for small cases and short mobos. With sli you would be getting retarded temperatures on the top card, not with one of these. The cooler on the 690 is boner inducing!! Wonder how well it cools.

 

[Zarathustra[H]]

SFR will never scale like AFR because it is replicating some of the frame's work on both GPUs. Also SFR has been moved away from because it's basically extremely incompatible with deferred renderers (just like MSAA) which most games are these days.

I know all this, but there are always ways to design around things.

Personally I usuall only find myself short of tge franerate I want by a little bit with one GPU. I would much rather have an SLI solution that gives me 25% scaling and no added input lag, than one with near 100% scaling and no input lag.

I really wish game studios would stop with this ridiculous deferred rendering crap. It really just causes more problems than it is worth...

 

[nakedhand]

Best looking video card I have ever seen imaged! Finally a serious approach and execution for an exterior design.

I hope this departure from plastics will become a trend for high end cards, and is guiding to our expectations for a future GK110 card! Want to hold, precious...

 

[c3k]

Magnesium? Do they have any idea what happens when magnesium ignites? Or, have they included a hidden halon system in this beast of a card?

Very cool.

 

[adoru65535]

$1000 it seems very reasonable, at least for the moment: demand > supply , and truly lack of competition in a market it aims for. Don't like? Can't afford? then simply not beloning to that niche elite group, just don't buy it, that's life.

People can stop whining about manufacturing cost vs price, any of us would make perfectly same decision or even set price higher if we were hired to determinate product pricing.

Microsoft Windows Pro 7 OEM, a good product for the targeted market, costs technically less than $ 1 dollar in production (dvd, a piece of paper and wrapping) and sells for $130-150, why? the better question is: Why Not?

 

[Starrbuck]

So that you get absolutely zero dips beneath 60FPS in game such as BF3 with everything maxed.

You can do that with a single GTX 680 today.

 

[Zarathustra[H]]

Not quite sure why they would use low weight expensive metals and worry about the aesthetics of a video card.


Once you install it and close the case, unless you have one of those moronic case windows, you are never going to see it again.

Much better to use cheaper (but functional) materials for an internal component.

 

[edifyingkarma]

Very nice...

 

[JLangevin]

You can do that with a single GTX 680 today.

I do it now with a single GTX 580 overclocked on water.

 

[NIVO]

$999.99? Guess im not that [H]ard

Bring on the dual GTX 670 4gb card for $399.99!

 

[Deleted whining member 223597]

I do it now with a single GTX 580 overclocked on water.

Interesting, your overclock increases your performance by 100%?

http://www./forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/53144-evga-geforce-gtx-680-sc-review-6.html

Looks like the fail of banning some links has hit again, just google GTX 680 review hardwarecanucks and look @ BF3 @ 1920x1200 with 4x MSAA on.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...epler-graphics-card-review-battlefield-3.html

There you go, even better. Doesn't look like 60FPS is the minimum, which some people really want.

 

[JLangevin]

Interesting, your overclock increases your performance by 100%?

http://www./forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/53144-evga-geforce-gtx-680-sc-review-6.html

Looks like the fail of banning some links has hit again, just google GTX 680 review hardwarecanucks and look @ BF3 @ 1920x1200 with 4x MSAA on.

At what point did I say that my overclock increases my performance by 100%???

The comment I made was to the person who said that getting a 680 would keep their frames above 60fps in BF3, AND my comment stated that my 580 is doing it just fine.

 

[Draiko]

Geforce 690:Computer hardware::Bugatti Veyron:Cars

 

[KENNYB]

It will be $1200 a day after it "launches".

 

[Deleted whining member 223597]

At what point did I say that my overclock increases my performance by 100%???

The comment I made was to the person who said that getting a 680 would keep their frames above 60fps in BF3, AND my comment stated that my 580 is doing it just fine.

Look at the review, the minimum FPS was 37, so unless you are just saying it CAN, but doesn't constantly, keep the FPS above 60, you have somehow managed to increase your performance by close to 100%.

The people who get SLI for single displays make sure they NEVER go below 60FPS, not even for a split second.

 

[Budzman]

I'm using a 580gtx and dont have any current games that warrant a upgrade. wtf do i need a 690 for.