AMD - drop the price on the 7970 neeeow

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Come on AMD. Drop the blasted price so I can give you some money before I cave and buy a 680GTX. I want the extra GB of ram for 2560x1440 but I'm not going to pay more for a slower card....$475 or bust.
 
You might as well stop waiting and order then, it is unlikely to hit sub $500 any time soon, We will probably see a slow decline over the coming weeks to an even price at best.

You are wasting your own time waiting out a $475 price tag.
 
Mow some lawns, sell some lemonade or pimp yourself out to make up the difference. If you're worried about $50 bucks on a $500+ card, your priorities are messed up.

Some reading material during your wait: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost

It's the drop on the non reference 7970's that we need more than anything and those are up and over $600. If you're buying a couple of those you're gonna need to mow down a pimp and his lemonade stand to make up the $200+ in savings a price drop would net you :cool:
 
It's the drop on the non reference 7970's that we need more than anything and those are up and over $600. If you're buying a couple of those you're gonna need to mow down a pimp and his lemonade stand to make up the $200+ in savings a price drop would net you :cool:

Never understood buying non-reference cards... it just leads to issues fitting waterblocks later. :cool:
 
imo wait for the 4gb 680's and enjoy a better driver experience! ;)

You know, this whole AMD drivers are the devil BS needs to stop. Especially when it comes from people who don't own a Radeon card in the first place! The truth is, the drivers are FINE.
 
You know, this whole AMD drivers are the devil BS needs to stop. Especially when it comes from people who don't own a Radeon card in the first place! The truth is, the drivers are FINE.

Well mine was a joke because I do support team green so much. It's been a long time since I've used team red and back then they had driver issues and from what I read people are still complaining about the drivers. Each card is awesome no doubt :)
 
There is absolutely no reason to drop the price of these. Yes, the 680 is faster by a few fps here and there, but they are no where to be found. Why lower prices to compete against somethign that you can't get yet? lol
 
There is absolutely no reason to drop the price of these. Yes, the 680 is faster by a few fps here and there, but they are no where to be found. Why lower prices to compete against somethign that you can't get yet? lol

to much logic, that will go over everyone's head here.



Well mine was a joke because I do support team green so much. It's been a long time since I've used team red and back then they had driver issues and from what I read people are still complaining about the drivers. Each card is awesome no doubt :)


thats because its still the same people complaining about drivers from 5 years ago and not the current drivers. yes their crossfire support still needs a bit of work but then again nvidia's SLI need work to in other games so they are equal as far as that goes. AMD's single card support is just fine though.
 
As a consumer, I'd like a price drop (especially because it's in-line for my next upgrade). But honestly, they're still around the same price, so meh. After 1080p / 1200p, the Performance starts leveling out between the two. Get to higher and higher resolutions (such as 6000x1920) and the 2GB frame buffer become a bottleneck.
 
You know, this whole AMD drivers are the devil BS needs to stop. Especially when it comes from people who don't own a Radeon card in the first place! The truth is, the drivers are FINE.

Their drivers, lack of game support, and bugs with Eyefinity finally forced me into dumping them and getting a GTX 570 (and for that matter giving up Eyefinity until I either go SLI or get a GTX 680). The drivers might be fine for YOU, but that doesn't mean they are fine for everyone. Try reading a few more threads in this forum about [H]'ers having driver trouble. Last I checked it took AMD what...three months...just to get WHQL drivers for the 7900 series? nVidia had Kepler driver support on day ONE.

I've no interest in buying any AMD cards, not after what I went through. But I do have an interest in seeing a price war!
 
Yeah... cuz WHQL means lots... personally i'll take ATI drivers over Nvidia's any day, at least ATI's doesn't crash constantly, sure it's great windows is recovering my desktop from a hardware error.. to bad I lost my games progress since dx9/11 won't recover with the desktop.
 
Yeah... cuz WHQL means lots... personally i'll take ATI drivers over Nvidia's any day, at least ATI's doesn't crash constantly, sure it's great windows is recovering my desktop from a hardware error.. to bad I lost my games progress since dx9/11 won't recover with the desktop.

No it might not mean lots, but there are people who prefer to stick with drivers that were tested and approved by MS. I have not had an nVidia driver crash in years, but as I said before the experience of one person is not indicative of all experiences. All I need to know is (1) that I experienced continual driver quality issues with my 5870 and (2) that Kyle and the reviewing team have made a point to call AMD out on driver quality in the past (day one driver availability as well as driver/CFX support for games) to know that I'm sticking with nVidia until, for whatever reason, I have problems with their hardware.
 
I've not had any driver issues with the many AMD cards I've owned, but I will say that manually updating CCC can be a huge pain in the ass for the non-technically-inclined.

If I weren't an IT, I'd probably have jumped ship to Team Green a long time ago, because it's ridiculous what you have to go through sometimes in order to completely remove an old/corrupt/duplicate CCC version...
 
I'm wondering if both cards will settle at 525, with the radeon dropping just a bit, and the nv creeping up just a bit. Meh.
 
Mow some lawns, sell some lemonade or pimp yourself out to make up the difference. If you're worried about $50 bucks on a $500+ card, your priorities are messed up.

Some reading material during your wait: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost

I wouldn't be buying a reference card considering the OC needed to compete with the 680. If it makes you feel any better I'm about to hit up the apple store for a $1k cinema display once the lunch traffic clears out. Maybe I'll be happy with the performance of my 580 and not need another card.
 
Yeah... cuz WHQL means lots... personally i'll take ATI drivers over Nvidia's any day, at least ATI's doesn't crash constantly, sure it's great windows is recovering my desktop from a hardware error.. to bad I lost my games progress since dx9/11 won't recover with the desktop.

Generally speaking, the only time I've seen drivers crash constantly on nvidia, is when the card is overheating and/or dieing. My Wifes (at the time, GF) BFG 8800GT was a solid mass of dust and conkin out, random gibberish on the screen during boot, odd lines and such on desktop. It would play for about 3-5 minutes and then die because of a driver crash. Her RMA replacement 9800GT had a bad fan, and it would be fine for about 20-25 minutes, then it too would die from a driver crash. She's now on a GTX460, and only has issues when her fan gets clogged.

On the other hand, I had an HD4850 before my GTX480. Every single time I updated drivers, I had to redo my overclock. Everytime I updated drivers, it would give me colored bars on the desktop til I fixed my Overclock because I ran dual monitors. Everytime I updated drivers, the stupid mouse pointer corruption bug was STILL THERE. AMDs drivers are terrible. Their hardware is top notch and always has been, but their drivers just let everything else slip. I'm just glad I didn't have crossfire, that seems to have a whole mess of extra problems.

Moral of this story, don't blame Nvidia's drivers for a problem likely caused by the hardware. Also, Keep your shit clean.
 
The only issues I've had with ati video card drivers came from the fact I'm using horrible Apple mDP->DL-DVI adapters. When I had smaller monitors I had no issues, except of course back in the day waiting for proper 5x1 support, in which, nVidia still hasn't done. I'm not loyal to any camp, but I'm going to pick the vender that give me the features that I want.
 
Nice, I keep missing those deals in FS/FT :(.

I agree though. Buy used and still keep the warranty (on some OEMs).

I've seen about 3 of them now and I had to resist the temptation to pick up a second 7970 considering the one I have right now isn't really being challenged. I agree with this though, there are some really good deals in the FS/FT section if you want a good, cheap 7970. Otherwise you're going to be waiting awhile as I don't think prices will fall all that quickly.

Also, I haven't had any major CCC problems, though it won't actually open after I upgrade past the 11.x drivers that it first came with. Not a huge deal but I did feel like setting my own AA on mass effect. Settled for using the FXAA injector which works decently well (though I wish I could crank it up some more, the game is hardly challenging for any GPU from the past 3-4 generations it seems like).

Moral of this story, don't blame Nvidia's drivers for a problem likely caused by the hardware. Also, Keep your shit clean.

This is very true, most of my nvidia graphics driver crashing problems have come from hardware problems. I have an old 8800GTS in my laptop that I bought a couple of years ago that's still surprisingly strong for what it is. When it crashes it's usually either due to heat or just some sort of glitch. Be glad it's just resetting the driver too, it could be blue screening and restarting your computer instead. To me that actually shows a strong driver more than a weak one.
 
I'm just hoping if they drop the price for the 7970 it will chain down to the 7870. 300 bucks is a pretty sweet spot for it. I might just skip this generation if it doesn't happen..
 
I have an old 8800GTS in my laptop that I bought a couple of years ago that's still surprisingly strong for what it is. When it crashes it's usually either due to heat or just some sort of glitch. Be glad it's just resetting the driver too, it could be blue screening and restarting your computer instead. To me that actually shows a strong driver more than a weak one.

Consider yourself lucky, when my old 8600m GT driver crashed (and even on newer drivers) it BSOD. Definitely wasn't a heat/dust issue either as it would do this while the GPU was sub 60C (and gaming it didn't get above 80C).
 
You know, this whole AMD drivers are the devil BS needs to stop. Especially when it comes from people who don't own a Radeon card in the first place! The truth is, the drivers are FINE.

Yeah I call bullshit on that one. Single card setups are fine, but multi-card setups are definitely NOT AMD's strong-suit when it comes to stability. I know because I had 2 Sapphire 7970's and got rid of them purely because of driver issues. I loved the hardware, especially the zero core features. oh well.
 
Productive afternoon. Bought 27" cinema display and GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970. My wife is gonna kill me.
 
who told you that you need more than 2gb of Vram at that resolution?

benchmarks show that 2gb becomes bottleneck at 5760p with 4xaa.
 
Consider yourself lucky, when my old 8600m GT driver crashed (and even on newer drivers) it BSOD. Definitely wasn't a heat/dust issue either as it would do this while the GPU was sub 60C (and gaming it didn't get above 80C).

There were actually some 8xxx mobile gpus that they had to recall, not sure if you might have been part of that or not, but apparently they were failing pretty consistently. It's only ever reset the driver a couple of times, not common at all. Sometimes it blue screens after it's been sleeping/hibernating for a couple days off and on and is transitioning back from sleep->hibernate again, but that's rare too.

Good laptop.
 
who told you that you need more than 2gb of Vram at that resolution?

benchmarks show that 2gb becomes bottleneck at 5760p with 4xaa.

I'm really not worried about now. I don't want to be stuck if something comes out in the next two years that I can't max out because the card ran out of memory.

I had to justify it for myself more than I will need to justify it to any of your guys. I'm generally pretty tight with my money. The cards overclocks like mad according to reviews + 3GB + non reference board ended up being worth 80$ to me. I paid the 1k for the monitor because I don't want any problems returning if it has an issue. The Apple store is about a half mile away from my office.

I might try eyefinity as well but I'm not sure how that would work with 2560x1440+1920x1200+1920x1080.
 
Consider yourself lucky, when my old 8600m GT driver crashed (and even on newer drivers) it BSOD. Definitely wasn't a heat/dust issue either as it would do this while the GPU was sub 60C (and gaming it didn't get above 80C).

Sounds like you got a recalled chip. The G86 and G84 chips all were bad. It wasn't a matter of if, it was a matter of when.
 
Productive afternoon. Bought 27" cinema display and GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970. My wife is gonna kill me.

Please post pics of your ACD in the Display forum if possible. I'm heavily considering buying one of these instead of taking a chance on a cheapo Korean panel. (I'm sorry, but as a videophile and film buff, even ONE dead pixel will annoy me to no end.)

The only reason I'm not completely sold on the ACDs is that afaik Apple does not offer a "zero dead pixel" policy like Dell does...

Haha, and I just bought a 7970 with my gf's credit card (I gave her the cash) and she didn't kill me. Hopefully your wife is as kind :D
 
Their drivers, lack of game support, and bugs with Eyefinity finally forced me into dumping them and getting a GTX 570 (and for that matter giving up Eyefinity until I either go SLI or get a GTX 680). The drivers might be fine for YOU, but that doesn't mean they are fine for everyone. Try reading a few more threads in this forum about [H]'ers having driver trouble. Last I checked it took AMD what...three months...just to get WHQL drivers for the 7900 series? nVidia had Kepler driver support on day ONE.

I've no interest in buying any AMD cards, not after what I went through. But I do have an interest in seeing a price war!

That's funny, I dumped nVidia because they had buggy drivers that caused certain games to restart in the middle, corrupted a huge chunk of my HD after a restart. I thought it was ram and PSU too, so extra expense there thanks to them.

Also their 680 SLI drivers are terrible for scaling % from everything seen so far, which is absolutely unacceptable and they should be ashamed for releasing such POS buggy WHQL drivers.
 
I'm wondering if the scaling issues are driver related, or architecture related. Only time will tell as future drivers are released (AMD took what...three months...to get WHQL drivers released?). Still crappy to see see scaling issues caused by driver bugs (if that's what this actually is), but suffice it to say that (1) a vast majority of people are not going to be using SLI and (2) if it has scaling issues I'm certainly not going to be interested in buying two GTX 680's :).

I remember some equally poor scaling with the 5870; it was bad enough months after I purchased it that I decided I was going to shelve the CFX idea and not look into it for a while. Never really found out if AMD had fixed the scaling issues on the 5800 series before the 6000 series came out.
 
Sounds like you got a recalled chip. The G86 and G84 chips all were bad. It wasn't a matter of if, it was a matter of when.

It wasn't bumpgate. I actually used that laptop for a week last month and updated it to even newer drivers and didn't have any problems.

I remember some equally poor scaling with the 5870; it was bad enough months after I purchased it that I decided I was going to shelve the CFX idea and not look into it for a while. Never really found out if AMD had fixed the scaling issues on the 5800 series before the 6000 series came out.

They did. They doubled the number of interconnects for GPU->GPU communication. I had CFX5850s, 5870s, and now 6950s. The 6950s have been perfect in CFX and eyefinity for me from day one.
 
I got 3 27" screens, the asus ve278q for about 1K :D

I bought them by a reseller that gives the one pixel replace warranty. So one had a bad pixel, they changed it directly.

Anyway, about cards, I actually was hoping for a HD7980, with a faster gpu, and a gtx 685, but for everybody else it seems to be ok.

By having 3 screens I will need more that one card, and I want the fastest card, so the next upgrade won't be to change all cards in 6-12 mounths but to add one other card (third, or preferably if these where faster a second card to have a major upgrade).
I don't wanna wait until gk 110, and can't imagine when it will come out.
2x7970 is an option.

What the bad side of the amd cards is, it is that by using eyefinity all windows go to full size on all three screens. Nvidia is better by this, whit them you can max out a window on any screen. But on the other side in SLI they don't usually scale so good.
So yess I wait for a price drop, but more to a faster card. I hope to not have to wait until next winter. Yes there are the dualcards coming out. But these of amd are usually hot and loud.

If I think that for that money (for a crossfire or a SLI setup) I can make a week all inclusive with daily massage on a paradisiac beach, yess I wanna the prices to drop.
 
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