Why are new Android phones still being announced and released without ICS?

CHANG3D said:
If Apple can fit CDMA and GSM pentaband radios in the iPhone 4S, why can't Samsung?

Only reason for me to consider the iPhone 4S is its world capabilities.
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The iPhone 4S doesn't have pentaband. The GN is a better world phone than the 4S if you care about data speeds. Also GN is HSPA+ whereas the 4S is HSPA. Putting both CDMA and GSM into the same phone is a neat trick, but it is mainly for Apple's SKU purposes than something that is actually useful to consumers.
 
AceCR42 said:
The shitty stock roms like Blur/Sense/etc, aren't really made for the "power users" like us. They exist for the average joe that doesn't really like messing around with his phone and just wants everything to work out of the box. Also why they're loaded with a bunch of apps.
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Except that they cause more problems than the conveniences they give.
 
kllrnohj said:
The 3 buttons are back, home, and multitask. The search and menu buttons were both "removed", or at least that is the direction Google is pushing things.
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Yeah but I think those are not going to be hardware buttons anymore - just on screen. Anyway, it's kind of a moot point because there are hacks to bring back the menu and search button if you really want them
 
Im using Gingerbread on my Thunderbolt but I would love to try ICS. Is there an ICS ROM available and if so where would I be able to find it?
 
kllrnohj said:
The iPhone 4S doesn't have pentaband. The GN is a better world phone than the 4S if you care about data speeds. Also GN is HSPA+ whereas the 4S is HSPA. Putting both CDMA and GSM into the same phone is a neat trick, but it is mainly for Apple's SKU purposes than something that is actually useful to consumers.
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4S is hspa+ 64QAM is not a requirement for release 7, despite what wikipedia implies. Also, for what it's worth, the only time you would run into problems with not having 1700mhz is using Tmobile. Everywhere else in the world 2100mhz is used to send and receive, unlike just to transmit on TMO.
 
tangoseal said:
Im using Gingerbread on my Thunderbolt but I would love to try ICS. Is there an ICS ROM available and if so where would I be able to find it?
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You can find ICS ROM's on rootzwiki.com and the xda-developers.com. be warned the RIL for TBolt is not yet finished so you won't have data or calls. One dev group (Liquid Smooth ROM's) has apparently got RIL working and are just working out the last of the bugs so hopefully we have a truly working TBolt ICS ROM soon.
 
kllrnohj said:
The iPhone 4S doesn't have pentaband. The GN is a better world phone than the 4S if you care about data speeds. Also GN is HSPA+ whereas the 4S is HSPA. Putting both CDMA and GSM into the same phone is a neat trick, but it is mainly for Apple's SKU purposes than something that is actually useful to consumers.
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I supposed most of that is true, but I'm a Sprint lifer, baby!

Screw big sopa-supporting, anti-net-neutrality coorporations!

If you have that kind of political conviction, don't support those companies.

I also buy groceries from farms without Monsanto.

Yeah, I'm one of THOSE people!
 
MrCrispy said:
It's like someone selling a pc today with Vista instead of Windows 7.

It's absolutely ridiculous that someone can buy a new top of line Android phone today, and not know when, or even if, they'll get an ICS update.

Do the oem's/carriers even make any money from Sense/Blur/TouchWiz ? They spend months developing it, and these skins are almost universally hated. They have some nice features (esp Sense) but these should be a separate Market app (which they could even limit to their phones).

Blame for this must lie on Google, they simply don't care how fragmented the Android ecosystem gets. Just imagine how nice it would be if all apps were guaranteed the latest OS.
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Because it takes ~2 years to push a phone through the carrier's systems.

Add a delay for ICS, and the useful life of the phone is cut down.
 
Add another culprit to the equation: Qualcomm.

Why does the Nexus One / Evo 4G / Desire not have ICS? Simple, they're the culprits. There's no open source Android driver for the crappy Adreno 200 GPU, and it appears they're not going to update their closed binaries for ICS either.
 
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