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Been searching around... Was nothing about Kepler disclosed at CES, or am I missing it somehow? Figured it'd be on [H] first
-SR
-SR
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NVIDIA Hey GeForce fans, thanks for your excitement. We're not talking about Kepler at CES, but we're still on track and will let you know as updates become available.
There won't be any Kepler announcement here
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Been searching around... Was nothing about Kepler disclosed at CES, or am I missing it somehow? Figured it'd be on [H] first
-SR
Won't AMD have most of it's enthusiast line-up out by then? Geez if it's true Nvidia is giving them six months free in the market.
people should appreciate how nvidia has bigger fish to fry. kepler for mobile and project denver for servers and the next console cycle are all bigger deals than the high end video card.. (whether or not that is a good excuse for being 6 months after amd/ati in the high end again is up to the reader)
Does this mean probable large price drops on 580's?
As far as I have read AMD graphics chips will be most likely in the next Xbox, Wii-u and may be even ps3(not sure about this though). It is widely reported that next wii and xbox will have amd graphics.
Does this mean probable large price drops on 3gb 580's?
As far as I have read AMD graphics chips will be most likely in the next Xbox, Wii-u and may be even ps3(not sure about this though). It is widely reported that next wii and xbox will have amd graphics.
Are you sure? First I heard of that and the rumors are Sony are moving to PowerVR hence the extended GPU licence that Sony announced with PowerVR. Is there any evidence AMD won the contract?Sony is making the switch with the PS4 as well. Nintendo has always used ATI/AMD chips..
As far as I have read AMD graphics chips will be most likely in the next Xbox, Wii-u and may be even ps3(not sure about this though). It is widely reported that next wii and xbox will have amd graphics.
They would be very foolish to go with an Intel powered GPU...
All it does is hurt the consumer. With nvidia unable to keep up with AMD. They can keep the price high.
Nvidia needs to learn from AMD how they get product out so much faster.
AMD didn't paper launch the 7970. It's out in retail channels now, as evidenced by other users here on the AMD subforum. And it's middle of January. If NVIDIA is delayed until June/July..NVIDIA had the fastest GPU for nearly 2 years and they are unable to keep up.
I guess it pays to paper/soft launch.
AMD didn't paper launch the 7970. It's out in retail channels now, as evidenced by other users here on the AMD subforum. And it's middle of January. If NVIDIA is delayed until June/July..
Well, technically, they did paper launch back in December, but the hard launch Jan 9 came and stock seems to be doing pretty darn well (selling well but enough cards available).
Isn't that pretty much the definition of a paper launch? Announce the card, along with reviews, but don't ship until a later date? Jan 9 wasn't a hard launch, it was just the release date as the card was already technically "launched".
I used to review hardware. I had GeForce2s, GeForce3s, the very first Radeon card, etc before the cards were actually available, and reviews went up before then as well. Since when is this a new practice and why is it frowned upon now? It's one thing to "launch" a card and then have it be unavailable for 2 months, but I'm pretty sure posting reviews and announcing the product before it is physically available is the norm not the exception.Isn't that pretty much the definition of a paper launch? Announce the card, along with reviews, but don't ship until a later date? Jan 9 wasn't a hard launch, it was just the release date as the card was already technically "launched".
I used to review hardware. I had GeForce2s, GeForce3s, the very first Radeon card, etc before the cards were actually available, and reviews went up before then as well. Since when is this a new practice and why is it frowned upon now? It's one thing to "launch" a card and then have it be unavailable for 2 months, but I'm pretty sure posting reviews and announcing the product before it is physically available is the norm not the exception.
I used to review hardware. I had GeForce2s, GeForce3s, the very first Radeon card, etc before the cards were actually available, and reviews went up before then as well. Since when is this a new practice and why is it frowned upon now? It's one thing to "launch" a card and then have it be unavailable for 2 months, but I'm pretty sure posting reviews and announcing the product before it is physically available is the norm not the exception.
It used to be normal, true, but people didn't like it (because they don't like hearing about things they can't get - just human nature) and for a couple of releases they were doing true hard launches, where announcment and availabiltiy were simultaneous. Once people got used to that, it is hard to go back. Just like people bitched about the 7970 pricing because they were used to AMD being the cheaper bang for the buck company. Expectations.
All it does is hurt the consumer. With nvidia unable to keep up with AMD. They can keep the price high.
Nvidia needs to learn from AMD how they get product out so much faster.
AMD still IS the cheaper bang for the buck company. Just so happens that the 7970 is fast enough to be better price/performance than the 580- Especially the 3gb 580.
AMD still IS the cheaper bang for the buck company. Just so happens that the 7970 is fast enough to be better price/performance than the 580- Especially the 3gb 580.
I fail to see how Nvidia will sell ANY 580s if they don't drop the price. Only a complete idiot would by a 580 that costs MORE then a 7970 and is slower by 15-30%.
I fail to see how Nvidia will sell ANY 580s if they don't drop the price. Only a complete idiot would by a 580 that costs MORE then a 7970 and is slower by 15-30%.