Cooler Master Cosmos II

Although if it looks like these links show from July - I for one, will NOT be interested!

http://legitreviews.com/news/11085/
http://www.eteknix.com/news/new-cooler-master-cosmos-ii-pc-chassis/


How could they go from the old uber sexy case to that ^? I'm hoping those six month old links are complely off and they'll release another knockout supermodel case at the turn of the year.

Here is my Cosmos 1010 with a optional window and black sides. (VERY classy, very clean - aluminum and high grade plastics only -- nothing cheap looking about the entire design - magnetic latching and tooless -- again I've never seen a better case (obviously my subjective opinion!))

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A little [H]ardforum reflecting off my case window in that last pic. :p
 
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Mysticode said:
So huge... anything this cool in a mid-tower? :)
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Not that I know about - at least not with the nice soft curves and clean quality parts.

You might like the NZXT H2 - but it has a crappy looking top and is too boxy. The Antec P182 and P280 are good looking sleek cases, but a bit less quality than the Cosmos, and are still too square. Lan Li is popular but they too are always just rectangles. I like some curves rather than just a rectangular box. And all the bling bling logos and plastic fan grating popular right now is usually ugly to me. An exception to plastic grating being ugly is the NZXT Hades.
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Another favorite case of mine and much smaller is the NZXT Rogue
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I don't mind the look of the NZXT Phantom either, but the quality isn't as high - it uses a lot of cheaper looking plastic and steel compared to the Cosmos aluminum and sparing use of quality plastic.
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Litfod said:
Wow, way to go turning the cool, sleek original into a cheap plastic toy. Mind you, I'll be happy if that's what the new one looks like, because then there won't be any incentive for me to switch from my current Cosmos.
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From what I've read previously, the frame and panels will still be aluminum, but everything else looks like plastic.
It's the type of plastic and finish they are using, along with the bulges and silly compartmentalized design.

To me Cosmos is more about the sleek design than this gamer look.
 
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The NZXT does use more plastic, but by no means sacrifices build quality. Their stuff is pretty much rock solid. And their replacement panels and customer services is cheap and good.
 
ranviper said:
The NZXT does use more plastic, but by no means sacrifices build quality. Their stuff is pretty much rock solid. And their replacement panels and customer services is cheap and good.
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I'm going to disagree, that door will break if you sneeze on it
 
CPTMULLER said:
I'm going to disagree, that door will break if you sneeze on it
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I have one of the lowest end nzxt cases with a much flimsier and thinner door than the phantom. Both cases of which I have used, and I disagree with you're disagreement. Even my Low end apollo has a door that's perfect fine as long as you're not dropping your computer. In which case you probably shouldn't have one.
 
ranviper said:
I have one of the lowest end nzxt cases with a much flimsier and thinner door than the phantom. Both cases of which I have used, and I disagree with you're disagreement. Even my Low end apollo has a door that's perfect fine as long as you're not dropping your computer. In which case you probably shouldn't have one.
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well, for your own sake don't sneeze in the general direction of your case
 
I hated the CoolerMaster Cosmos. I had one and the thermals are bad in it and there is no room to hide wires behind the motherboard tray. The drive cage didn't do you any favors for cooling or for noise. Mine rattled to the point of seriously pissing me off. The door latch sucked as it never could really hold the door shut. The dust filters didn't seem to work very well. All in all I really hated it. Most expensive disappointment for me ever in the realm of case purchases.

I replaced it with a CoolerMaster HAF-X and I couldn't be happeir with that one.
 
Dan_D said:
I hated the CoolerMaster Cosmos. I had one and the thermals are bad in it and there is no room to hide wires behind the motherboard tray. The drive cage didn't do you any favors for cooling or for noise. Mine rattled to the point of seriously pissing me off. The door latch sucked as it never could really hold the door shut. The dust filters didn't seem to work very well. All in all I really hated it. Most expensive disappointment for me ever in the realm of case purchases.

I replaced it with a CoolerMaster HAF-X and I couldn't be happeir with that one.
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wow my experience couldn't be further from yours.

I have a GTX560ti and a I7-920 o/ced to 4.0ghz, 3 hard-drives, and my case has none of those issues. (well except perhaps the wiring hide issue - but remember this case was released before hiding the wires became that big of a enthusiast concern) My I7-920, oced to 4.0ghz CPU runs at 65*C to 67*C under load. My hard-drives are a little warmer than some cases at 49* or 50* but that doesn't matter because they are speced to run perfectly multiple degrees hotter, my video card is overclocked nearly 100mhz on core and 225 on memory, and I've never had any heat issues with it. I have no vibration noise, the rubber gaskets the case includes to mount the hard-drives make it virtually vibration free. Heck my 7,200 RPM Seagate Hybrid drive in my alienware m11x laptop vibrates my desk much more noticeably than the Cosmos with a 10,000RPM raptor and 7,200 RPM drives does!!!! My magnetic door lock works absolutely perfectly and shuts on it's own very slowly, and is cushioned by the rubber stoppers so no bang when it closes. I just cleaned my dust filters off yesterday and they had tons of crap in them. The inside of the case remains very dust free compared to every other case I've ever owned. I'm sorry and surprised you had a bad experience. The case won multiple "best of" awards for a good reason - I'm not sure why you had such a poor experience?!?!

Oh and I use four 120mm fans (one bottom intake, one rear intake, two top fans exhaust (one is h70 radiator). I use quiet fans and on top of that use the fan thermal controllers built into the motherboard and the NZXT fan sentry unit. My case is very nearly silent even with all that equipment inside and no heat problems!!!! It may help that I have the H70 radiator at the top and exhausting out the top so my CPU heat never stays in the case - but even with a traditional cooler you've got that 120mm rear fan intaking/exhausting right next to the CPU fan? It seems like that would be fine too? Four 120mm fans out to be sufficient for a case like this for any cooling purposes except perhaps tri-sli or something extra ordinary like that. I'm fairly confident I'd have no heat issues adding a second GTX 560ti - and would like to do so at some point in the future.
 
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Archaea said:
wow my experience couldn't be further from yours.

I have a GTX560ti and a I7-920 o/ced to 4.0ghz, 3 hard-drives, and my case has none of those issues. (well except perhaps the wiring hide issue - but remember this case was released before hiding the wires became that big of a enthusiast concern) My I7-920, oced to 4.0ghz CPU runs at 65*C to 67*C under load. My hard-drives are a little warmer than some cases at 49* or 50* but that doesn't matter because they are speced to run perfectly multiple degrees hotter, my video card is overclocked nearly 100mhz on core and 225 on memory, and I've never had any heat issues with it. I have no vibration noise, the rubber gaskets the case includes to mount the hard-drives make it virtually vibration free. Heck my 7,200 RPM Seagate Hybrid drive in my alienware m11x laptop vibrates my desk much more noticeably than the Cosmos with a 10,000RPM raptor and 7,200 RPM drives does!!!! My magnetic door lock works absolutely perfectly and shuts on it's own very slowly, and is cushioned by the rubber stoppers so no bang when it closes. I just cleaned my dust filters off yesterday and they had tons of crap in them. The inside of the case remains very dust free compared to every other case I've ever owned. I'm sorry and surprised you had a bad experience. The case won multiple "best of" awards for a good reason - I'm not sure why you had such a poor experience?!?!
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I had a D5400XS motherboard with dual QX9775's @4.0GHz and 3 GTX 280's in 3-Way SLI installed in mine. (I also had dual Radeon HD 4870x2's at one point.) I also had 6 hard drives. All of which were 10,000RPM drives. I had a modular 1.2kw PSU, however I had to use most of the wiring that came with it to power all that. Believe me when I tell you, the case was insufficient for my needs. The wiring wouldn't fit behind the motherboard tray. Even with zip ties and tape the wiring still prevented the side panel from locking in place without me having to bang on it. My front door would slam on it without hardly touching it. The latch also just didn't seem to hold it in place that well. It would flop around and slam over and over again if I tried moving the thing. The rattling happend because the only shock absorbtion you really get is from the drive to the mounting bracket. It still can shake the whole bracket which only has a thin film of plastic in the slot for insulation of noise. And again, we are talking about 6 10,000RPM drives. Not one and a 7,200RPM drive for storage.

I've seen far better cases for cooling than that. Temps dropped a lot moving the same system to the HAF-X.
 
Dan_D said:
I had a D5400XS motherboard with dual QX9775's @4.0GHz and 3 GTX 280's in 3-Way SLI installed in mine. (I also had dual Radeon HD 4870x2's at one point.) I also had 6 hard drives. All of which were 10,000RPM drives. I had a modular 1.2kw PSU, however I had to use most of the wiring that came with it to power all that. Believe me when I tell you, the case was insufficient for my needs. The wiring wouldn't fit behind the motherboard tray. Even with zip ties and tape the wiring still prevented the side panel from locking in place without me having to bang on it. My front door would slam on it without hardly touching it. The latch also just didn't seem to hold it in place that well. It would flop around and slam over and over again if I tried moving the thing. The rattling happend because the only shock absorbtion you really get is from the drive to the mounting bracket. It still can shake the whole bracket which only has a thin film of plastic in the slot for insulation of noise. And again, we are talking about 6 10,000RPM drives. Not one and a 7,200RPM drive for storage.

I've seen far better cases for cooling than that. Temps dropped a lot moving the same system to the HAF-X.
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haha -- that's some system. :eek: :D
I can see where you'd have heat issues there. Certainly there are better cases if extreme cooling what you need --- and you did! ;) My Cosmos 1010 has rubber gaskets for each of the four screws on every drive. Works like a champ - no vibration transmission on my drives, even with the 10,000RPM raptor. Six raptors - maybe rubber gaskets are insufficient, and you need to suspend them by rubber bands like I've seen some people do. :p
 
I liked the old case, the new one looks like a Dr Who Ciber man prop from the 80's
 
WorldExclusive said:
From what I've read previously, the frame and panels will still be aluminum, but everything else looks like plastic.
It's the type of plastic and finish they are using, along with the bulges and silly compartmentalized design.

To me Cosmos is more about the sleek design than this gamer look.
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Oh I'm sure the build quality will be fine, I suppose I meant "cheap-looking". I don't suppose it'll actually be cheap :)
 
Dan_D said:
I had a D5400XS motherboard with dual QX9775's @4.0GHz and 3 GTX 280's in 3-Way SLI installed in mine. (I also had dual Radeon HD 4870x2's at one point.) I also had 6 hard drives. All of which were 10,000RPM drives. I had a modular 1.2kw PSU, however I had to use most of the wiring that came with it to power all that. Believe me when I tell you, the case was insufficient for my needs. The wiring wouldn't fit behind the motherboard tray. Even with zip ties and tape the wiring still prevented the side panel from locking in place without me having to bang on it. My front door would slam on it without hardly touching it. The latch also just didn't seem to hold it in place that well. It would flop around and slam over and over again if I tried moving the thing. The rattling happend because the only shock absorbtion you really get is from the drive to the mounting bracket. It still can shake the whole bracket which only has a thin film of plastic in the slot for insulation of noise. And again, we are talking about 6 10,000RPM drives. Not one and a 7,200RPM drive for storage.

I've seen far better cases for cooling than that. Temps dropped a lot moving the same system to the HAF-X.
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Here are my temps. I just took these tonight while letting HWMonitor run while doing the following: 1 hour of gaming, before that 1 run of 3d mark vantage, before that 1 run of 3dmark 2011 - just to make sure it heated up about as much as I'll ever push it. I have no problem with any of the temps shown for my purposes --- keeping in mind that my Cosmos 1010 case is especially quiet with all the low CFM fans I'm using including just a single non stock fan on the H70 and the idea that I have a GTX 560 Ti and a 4.0ghz overclock on my I7-920. I think these temps are quite nice actually!

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Dan_D said:
I hated the CoolerMaster Cosmos. I had one and the thermals are bad in it and there is no room to hide wires behind the motherboard tray. The drive cage didn't do you any favors for cooling or for noise. Mine rattled to the point of seriously pissing me off. The door latch sucked as it never could really hold the door shut. The dust filters didn't seem to work very well. All in all I really hated it. Most expensive disappointment for me ever in the realm of case purchases.

I replaced it with a CoolerMaster HAF-X and I couldn't be happeir with that one.
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I had the original Cosmos as well and found the same issues. Biggest problem to me was high temps. I took it back within 5 days.

I used a HAF-X for a week before I hated it and took it back. But's that another story..
 
Technikal said:
I had the original Cosmos as well and found the same issues. Biggest problem to me was high temps. I took it back within 5 days.

I used a HAF-X for a week before I hated it and took it back. But's that another story..
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What was wrong with the HAF-X? It's not the best case in the world but I like mine.
 
The HAF X will be my one and only attempt at using a plastic case. Can't believe I went from a Lian-Li to this tier of crap.

BTW, CM seems to have terrible quality control; my HAF X, like what has been reported by many others, won't let me align PCI cards properly no matter what.
 
christpunchers said:
The HAF X will be my one and only attempt at using a plastic case. Can't believe I went from a Lian-Li to this tier of crap.

BTW, CM seems to have terrible quality control; my HAF X, like what has been reported by many others, won't let me align PCI cards properly no matter what.
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Haf-X is a cheap gamer case. For the money you get a big open case with lots of features that a gamer or overclocker might like. Don't get me wrong, I like the case...but don't expect Lian Li quality from a Haf-X, that's not really what it was designed for.
My limited experience with the Cosmos line of cases paints a picture of much higher quality (and the associated higher price tag). I'm sure the Cosmos 2 will be of sufficient quality. But in all honesty, they could easily build a quality case for less then $350, and judging by the price of its #1 competitor, the Corsair 800D, I think they are at least $75 too high on the Cosmos 2.
 
At the price point that we are talking, this Cosmos II will be competing with the full tower Lian Li cases like the PC-A77F.
 
Bad ConNecTioN said:
Haf-X is a cheap gamer case. For the money you get a big open case with lots of features that a gamer or overclocker might like. Don't get me wrong, I like the case...but don't expect Lian Li quality from a Haf-X, that's not really what it was designed for.
My limited experience with the Cosmos line of cases paints a picture of much higher quality (and the associated higher price tag). I'm sure the Cosmos 2 will be of sufficient quality. But in all honesty, they could easily build a quality case for less then $350, and judging by the price of its #1 competitor, the Corsair 800D, I think they are at least $75 too high on the Cosmos 2.
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I agree. My first few case's were gamer type case's. Lights, plastic, windows. Then I bought a Lian Li and since then, I've been spoiled with Aluminum, awesome construction and sleek lines. I've never considered the Haf-X or any other Plastic bound case as an alternative or replacement for my current case. Im starting to shy away from Steel case's as well.

The original Cosmos were beautiful and looked well crafted. Lets hope they keep some traits for this new case.
 
Eugh... best CM case ever was the Praetorian. All this boxy plastic junk they put out nowadays just doesn't do anything for me. :/
 
One of my all-time favorite case is the Cosmos Black, I loved it's totally unique design and utter sleekness of the case. The only downside was the poor cooling capacity and all CM had to do was address that without mucking up the looks. Pretty gutted at the direction they went with the Cosmos II as it looks more like something their Storm series of cases would harbor. Going to withhold my final judgement until I see it in person or when review photos come out...but things don't look good. :(

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Damn, thats expensive. Too Expensive for plastic IMO.
 
Not fond of the front bay cover, but that is easily taken care of. I am fond of all the radiator room in the case. I couldn't possibly case less how it cools with air so even if it's like the old Cosmos I still like it. $350+ is a tad steep though.

Core2-D2 said:
350 euros, which is $450+.... :eek:

maybe they'll be cheaper in the US?
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Prices don't scale like that with computer parts. It will probably be $300-$350.
 
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