AMD Bulldozer / FX-8150 Desktop Performance Review @ [H]ardOCP

A bit disappointing for sure. The power usage is just abhorrent. If these had come out on time, months ago, I think it would have been a more attractive option. But now that SB has fallen in price a bit, and likely to fall even more, I just can't reason to get the 8150 or 8120 over the 2600K. I like the features of the 990FX boards more than the Z68 boards but, when it comes down to the heart of it, the 2600K is still the better chip for what I want. I fear that the FX chips would be a sidegrade from my, rather old, 965-BE in situations where it's a poorly threaded application where it would actually be faster. The 2600K on the other hand would be faster in all counts, and quite appreciable as well. And while I could get an X6 PII I yearn for a new platform so SB it is.
 
dr.kevin said:
I knew BD would need a nuclear power plant to power that OC.

That $40 difference is looking sweeter and sweeter.

Your electricity bills will make it more expensive than the 2600k.

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Is that honestly 600w for a 4.8 oc? How is that even...just...wow. Imagine the psu frustration trying to oc a set of 6900 cf with that, much less nvidia sli.

What kind of power draw were all of those record oc's that were getting posted as fastest CPU ever pulling? I can't fathom.
 
well the last thing anyone should want is a blow out entirely by intel... intel is already foot dragging to make us pay for their f up with the SB recall and the i7-2700K not dropping the i7-2600K pricing.


Personally I'm glad that after reading the gaming review and this one we can say that BD has shown up in the same ballpark even if it isn't exactly "winning' the game at the moment. The processor shows promise with next gen applications written to take full advantage of multicore processors.


The power usage results are disappointing if i'm honest..and I'm not regretting getting a i5-2500K for my b-day 2 months ago. But I pray that AMD can make further progress and hopefully keep compitions in the marketplace... I would HAAATE to see the result of only Intel being left standing in the processor marketplace...nightmare for all of us regardless of brand choice or preferences.


my wife's computer is due an upgrade (she has a E5200 w/ 4GB DDR2 ATM) i will have to think on it but I could see considering getting her a BD if for no other reason than to vote for competition in the market with my $$$ ..BD isn't bad...it isn't OMG THAT F*** ROCKS either certainly but it isn't bad..
 
The power consumption sucks, which is a shame but not a deal breaker. I'd like to see more tests run with 1866+ Memory and a more indepth look at overclocking and what It can do.

Good read though. I was actually expecting to see it be ripped apart in the conclusion of this review.
 
Yoda4561 said:
If there's one application in that whole test that should tell the tale, it's handbrake. That app has about as ideal multicore scaling as you're going to see in the real world, and it's only about 5% faster, than a PII with 75% of the cores and a 400Mhz clockspeed disadvantage.
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reviews are all over the place

http://www.techspot.com/review/452-amd-bulldozer-fx-cpus/page9.html

They have the fx 8150 at 3.6ghz at 113.8 in hand brake
i5 2500 at 3.3ghz at 116.5
i7 2600 at 3.4ghz at 119.7

Not a terrible showing

they also have the same weirdness in x264 HD benchmark 4.0

the fx 8150 is slower than the x6 1100T , 975 ee , 2500k , 2600k in the first pass (121.3 vs 123.5 for the x6 and 145.3 for the i7 2600)

Yet its the fastest in the second pass ( 37.1 vs 36.9 for the i7 2600k )


Looking more at it , the fx 6100 gets 30.6/119.1 It seems that x264 doesn't scale past 6 cores ?
 
There is a silver lining here, however faint. The retail prices on these chips is probably going to fall, and that means more people will get decent, if not best in class performance for cheaper. Still too bad all AMD can shoot for is intels knee caps instead of their face though.
 
So Phenom was a Phenomenal piece of shit, and Bulldozer is just as slow as its namesake. I predict that AMD's next CPU based on the Piledriver architecture will be a steaming pile of shit also.

I'm done with AMD for the time being, as soon as I get the money to upgrade, I'm going Intel.
 
I only see this being a good chip for someone who is a mild gamer, who does not care about overclocking or cooling (due to the power consumption), and who truly hates intel.
 
AMD's marketing department should be fired. They ruined the FX brand with this pile of dog poop?
 
atarione said:
my wife's computer is due an upgrade (she has a E5200 w/ 4GB DDR2 ATM) i will have to think on it but I could see considering getting her a BD if for no other reason than to vote for competition in the market with my $$$ ..BD isn't bad...it isn't OMG THAT F*** ROCKS either certainly but it isn't bad..
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It's...pretty bad. I guess the bad thing is that there's literally no reason to get one over SB.
 
Hey so if the power consumption is like 500 watts at 4.8 ghz, what the fuck was the power consumption at 8 ghz for that ln2 round??? 1000? Jesus you could heat a small home.
 
Well on a positive note, it didn't get its ass handed to it in gaming for once besides Civ 5 currently, the x6 got killed in games, at least Crysis and Far Cry 2 on the one site i remember, i think it was something like a 30fps difference between 2500k and X6 1100T at lower res.
 
I'm pretty disappointed in AMD. All they could really do was almost match SB performance. Ugh... Intel can keep laughing on the way to the bank. I was really looking forward to the revival of the FX name but mainly competition for Intel. If Intel drops prices AMD is so screwed.
 
ShuttleLuv said:
I only see this being a good chip for someone who is a mild gamer, who does not care about overclocking or cooling (due to the power consumption), and who truly hates intel.
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I think that has to be at the top of your list to justify a BD purchase.

1). Spite Intel. Check.
 
When the 2700k releases, expect prices to drop somewhat. When Sandy E arrives, expect even more. AMD IS screwed except for a small pack of fanboys, sorry to say. I miss the days of the Opteron, A64, and FX man those were the days.
 
Looks like SB-E for me.

I normally pull for and purchase AMD, but you have to fail pretty hard to make a CPU slower and more expensive than your previous generation. The only other time I remember this happening was with the P4 Wiliamette core. Not sure if this is a better or worse launch than Phenom I.

As Phenom II stock dries up, I will no longer be able to recommend a single AMD processor when asked.
 
ShuttleLuv said:
When the 2700k releases, expect prices to drop somewhat. When Sandy E arrives, expect even more. AMD IS screwed except for a small pack of fanboys, sorry to say. I miss the days of the Opteron, A64, and FX man those were the days.
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Prices wont drop for sandy E since it is meant as the premium platform, it won't compete with intels mainstream.
 
TheBlueChanell said:
The power consumption sucks, which is a shame but not a deal breaker.
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Power is absolutely a deal breaker. The CPU is half as power efficient as the competition. It's even less efficient than AMD's previous processor which was build on a 45nm process. There is really no reason whatsoever to buy a Bulldozer.
 
Page 7 chart at the bottom, what's the deal with 2600K OC slower than stock, and 2500K faster than 2600K?
 
xorbe said:
Page 7 chart at the bottom, what's the deal with 2600K OC slower than stock, and 2500K faster than 2600K?
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I will have to go back and see if I fat fingered a number there. Sorry about that. Still does not change the outcome of anything though. :(
 
atarione said:
my wife's computer is due an upgrade (she has a E5200 w/ 4GB DDR2 ATM) i will have to think on it but I could see considering getting her a BD if for no other reason than to vote for competition in the market with my $$$ ..BD isn't bad...it isn't OMG THAT F*** ROCKS either certainly but it isn't bad..
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1. It is bad.
2. Considering those numbers, I don't think competition is the right word. Wholesale slaughter maybe, but I don't see anything very competitive.
 
Goodness. I had to do a total double take when looking at those power numbers to make sure I was seeing it correctly. I guess you better make sure that your cpu cooler and desktop case are more than up to the job of dealing with the amount of heat that is being produced. Oh well, on to the gaming Bulldozer review.........
 
eastmen said:
reviews are all over the place

http://www.techspot.com/review/452-amd-bulldozer-fx-cpus/page9.html

They have the fx 8150 at 3.6ghz at 113.8 in hand brake
i5 2500 at 3.3ghz at 116.5
i7 2600 at 3.4ghz at 119.7

Not a terrible showing

they also have the same weirdness in x264 HD benchmark 4.0

the fx 8150 is slower than the x6 1100T , 975 ee , 2500k , 2600k in the first pass (121.3 vs 123.5 for the x6 and 145.3 for the i7 2600)

Yet its the fastest in the second pass ( 37.1 vs 36.9 for the i7 2600k )


Looking more at it , the fx 6100 gets 30.6/119.1 It seems that x264 doesn't scale past 6 cores ?
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Remember that the first pass is single threaded, so whether the review includes the first pass or only the second could be skewing the numbers.
 
NeoGohan said:
I'm pretty disappointed in AMD. All they could really do was almost match SB performance. Ugh... Intel can keep laughing on the way to the bank. I was really looking forward to the revival of the FX name but mainly competition for Intel. If Intel drops prices AMD is so screwed.
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That is a really interesting thought. While intel could certainly leave their prices as is and justify it without even a second thought, could you imagine if they made the decision to take a per unit pricing hit? Literally they could almost eliminate any decision between the 2, and not even give amd the argument that theres a price advantage. Potential short term loss, but maybe devastating to amd.
 
jamesrb said:
I normally pull for and purchase AMD, but you have to fail pretty hard to make a CPU slower and more expensive than your previous generation. The only other time I remember this happening was with the P4 Wiliamette core. Not sure if this is a better or worse launch than Phenom I.
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It's very reminiscent of that episode. But I don't think AMD can survive a Netburst.
 
I suppose I'll keep my Athlon system until Ivy Bridge and maybe new line of GPU comes out
 
I'm disappointed and pissed at the same time. Why? Because that's mean I will have to upgrade the fucking motherboard and CPU if I want to have something much better than my 1090T. Fuck AMD, I will no longer be supporting them. Will be going back to INTEL.
 
ShuttleLuv said:
I meant the Sandy's out now, not Sandy E.
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why would they drop.

It seems like the fx 8150 isn't as far behind as the phenom chips , but i don't think intel has any reason to drop prices. I bet now that they will either cancel the 4 core SB-E chips or price them over the i7 2700k . I don't see intel prices droping at all till ivy bridge
 
At $200, the 2500k owns it.

At $300, considering the 600w FX will need, the 2600k still owns it.

There is just not a cost effective solution at any price except $99 (Athlon x4).
Well actually, the lowest FX quadcore should supplant that Athlon x4. I predict the FX4100 will be at $99 in no time.
It should have roughly the same performance as the athlon x4, but with the benefit of being unlocked, and possibly having higher OC.

I think the FX4100 might actually be a hit among the budget crowd.


For all those who were planning to build a high end rig, better cut your losses.
 
Well I don't know for sure if they will, but I'd imagine the 2700k will push down 2600, 2500 prices alittle, and who knows maybe Sandy E will too?
 
ShuttleLuv said:
Well I don't know for sure if they will, but I'd imagine the 2700k will push down 2600, 2500 prices alittle, and who knows maybe Sandy E will too?
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Assuming Intel even launches the 2700K. It's not like they have any competition.
 
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