Crysis 2 DX11 Tessellation & High-Res Texture Pack @ [H]

heatlesssun said:
It appears to me that a lot of people are not experiencing joy in PC gaming around here and I just wonder why many even bother.
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QFT.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion; obviously no one even needs me to tell them that, because that right doesn't come from me. And I can absolutely see why Steve would be so pissed ater 4 hours trying to get the game to work. I wasn't happy either when I installed this update and couldn't run the game through Origins; about 30 minutes of random tinkering, I finally just launched it from the .exe and it worked fine. Still, shouldn't have to do that.

What I am so sick and tired of is all the people that have absolutely 0, zip, zilch, nada, experience playing certain games that jump into these game threads and just shit all over it. Their certainty that the game is terrible is so certain that it is nearly religious; and god forbid they try it. Then they sit there and parrot the same talking points over and over.
 
Wirth'sLaw said:
If I may, I will sum this entire thread up... or at least the way it seems.

There are going to be people who don't like a particular game - now they may be in a minority but those people will always exist. The fact this game's patch may not have delivered, the company's product may have not delivered, and the experience in the game may have not delivered according to what we (the gamers) think. That's how it is folks, and getting on here and going back and forth with others seems like a waste of time.

I don't own the game, and I don't plan on it. I'm not in the market for an FPS.

Ladies and gentlemen, the game IS WHAT IT IS. Nothing more, nothing less.

If you agree with the review fine, if you don't then you don't. After all, it is just a game.
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Exactly.
 
When the DA2 demo came out, I downloaded it, and it crashed. A lot. That was my experience. Because of that I did not buy the game and probably won't until it hits the bargain bin on steam. If people asked me for what I thought..I'm not going to average the opinions of the world, I'm gong to give them MINE. I would tell them...it crashed on me a lot.

For the most part, you get one shot to make a first impression. Sometimes you get a second if you have a lot of street cred behind you. Vista was exactly that IMO. People who tried the beta had issues, but they were willing to (because of how XP turned out) give it a go on full released. Well, Vista failed to deliver (for many people) for several months. Evidently MS got the memo and didn't release a half finished work with Windows7. It is a night and day difference between the two..and it is obvious why.

If the patch for Crysis 2 would have been "awesome", I think most people here would have "forgiven"..but the patch did not "deliver" to the expectations that people had when they first bought the game.
 
Trepidati0n said:
If the patch for Crysis 2 would have been "awesome", I think most people here would have "forgiven"..but the patch did not "deliver" to the expectations that people had when they first bought the game.
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I seriously doubt any amount of awesome would have saved this games in the eyes of many bashers. Far too much extraordinarily negative things had been said those folks for them to swallow that much pride without chocking on it.
 
cageymaru said:
Nobody is bashing anyone for liking this game. If you like play and have fun! But I want you to give me one minute of your time to make a point.

PC hardware is sold on the premise that there will be some piece of software that will bring the current generation of hardware to it's knees. It's inevitable. But when so called PC enthusiast developers put out stuff that doesn't stress current hardware it stifles the industry.

Look at my Q6600. Is there really a reason to replace it? I've had it since 2007 or 2008; can't remember exactly. As long as games are console ports, there is no reason to purchase new hardware. If there are no reasons to purchase hardware then the industry dies. No PC industry then no games. Get what I'm saying?

That affects [H] , Nvidia, AMD, Intel, etc. XBOX 360 just hit the 1/2 way point of it's lifespan according to Microsoft. Console ports are based off it and the PS3. I don't want XBOX graphics for another 6 or 7 years. I'd rather play flash games on my PC than support that garbage.

If you don't open you mouth and be vocal about what you expect from your games then you're just accepting whatever is given to you. Like Yurie gifted Steve 4 1/2 hours of hell.
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I've brought this very same point up many times. I agree with what you're saying completely. PC games have stagnated thanks to the console effect, most game companies would rather focus on getting the console version done and then port it to PC for some extra money, it's kind of sad cause it used to be the other way around. Game would be done on PC, then the console port would be done as an afterthought.

Plus, lately, consoles have spread the scourge of DLC and microtransactions to the PC, and that's something I really hate. I have only bought DLC once, and that was for Assassin's Creed 2 on my PS3, only then cause I bought the game for $30 and felt like I got a bargain so I bought the DLC.

Another thing, we can be as vocal as we want, being vocal isn't anywhere near as important as voting with your wallet. People talk a lot of shit about how they are gonna boycott a game or something, but then when the game comes out, they see all their friends buying it and of course, they lose their resolve and go out and buy it.

If I learned anything at all from this forum about something other than computer hardware, it's this.


VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET.
 
Crysis 2 has a way of making people emotional. Maybe that's what Cevat Dicknose Yerli was going for?
 
This is Hardocp. We overclock, replace, upgrade, and mod. No reason to do those if nothing changes.

Rift in 20 man raids has finally convinced me that I need a new processor. I'm CPU bound like crazy in that game. Nothing else has scratched it. BF:BC2 makes it run at 99% capacity or so, but at 40 fps. If I lower a setting a notch I run at 60, but I like the eye candy. None of the rest of the 120 games in my Steam folder have convinced me to upgrade. Yes supposedly I will get a few more fps if I upgrade, but when you're pegging around 60 fps who cares?

I don't think I should have to purchase more monitors to stress out my 4 year old processor. I'd rather just have a game that ran on one monitor that did that. With my version of good game play to boot.
 
Alpert said:
I think I'm going to pirate this one, sorry guys but just being honest. I will just play the single player campaign then delete!

FYI, I have purchased about 20 Steam games.
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Douchebag. 20 whole games? Man, you're like the Warren Buffett of gaming!

Sorry guy, just being honest.
 
Alpert said:
I think I'm going to pirate this one, sorry guys but just being honest. I will just play the single player campaign then delete!

FYI, I have purchased about 20 Steam games.
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So because you have purchased 20 Steam games that makes it ok to pirate this one? :confused: How bout this, if you do not think the game is worth purchasing, don't even bother at all?
 
Alpert said:
I think I'm going to pirate this one, sorry guys but just being honest. I will just play the single player campaign then delete!

FYI, I have purchased about 20 Steam games.
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You're SOOO fucking cool.
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Maybe things are darkest before the dawn...

BF3 is supposed to be a PC game first ported to console. If it plays well while craping all over the console version graphically then maybe developers are begining to signal the current gens graphical limitations.

So maybe the rumour M$ is gearing up to replace the 360 by the end of 2013 might just have some substance.
 
Yes Crysis 2 has flaws, but it is a pretty good game despite the fact it is not like Crysis 1.

Just don't be all up in arms when Crytek doesn't do PC games anymore. Fail. Ha!
 
heatlesssun said:
This has NOTHING to do with the install process of the patches. And again, Crytek released a demo, everyone had a chance to see first hand what Crysis 2 was about before paying one red dime.
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Not sure why you even responded but once again you are missing the point. It got a bad review because of the WHOLE idea behind the patching. It wasn't reviewed because of game play OBVIOUSLY...."Crysis 2 DX11 Tessellation & High-Res Texture Pack"...is the title of the article. It was blasting Crytek for poor business practice...not sure why you don't understand.
 
I think that the images look much better now. The wall looks so good. But they got to fix those posters. Also I thought the game was way over-priced for a PC game. I usually pay $40 or less for a new PC game. Sometimes up to $50 for a triple A title.And now since its no longer on Steam and they never lowered the price I will not be getting Crysis 2. Witht he Exception of a few Blizzard games I only buy from Steam.:D
 
You know, it can almost be argued that games these days are shipped as incomplete, what, with all the patches that come out within the first 2-3 months of the game's launch, you could almost argue that the game is more or less complete after a few patches and a price tag that is more than half off of what it was on launch day.

I'm seeing this phenomenom more and more often, and that observation has had a direct impact on game purchasing decisions.
 
I had zero issues updating the game with every patch up to 1.9. The DX11 & Hi Res packs both installed without an issue. My own installation was done through EA Origin (Download only) & installed to G:\Games.

I have yet to test the Ultra graphics though...
 
  • Step 1: Install the game but DO NOT start the game. This prevents the auto updater from launching.
  • Step 2: Download the 1.9 patch manually (I used this link) and install it.
  • Step 3: Start the game and enter your 20 digit code. Start a campaign and the immediately save and quit.
  • Step 4: Restart your computer.
  • Step 5: Install DX11 Tessellation pack. Start a campaign and then immediately save and quit.
  • Step 6: Restart your computer.
  • Step 7: Install High-Res Texture pack.
  • Step 8: Restart your computer.
  • Step 9: Start game, select the "Ultra" option in the graphics settings menu. Select "Yes" for high-res textures in the advanced games menu.
  • Step 10: Play Crysis 2.
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You see, its almost point and click :D:D
 
SomeoneElse said:
Not sure why you even responded but once again you are missing the point. It got a bad review because of the WHOLE idea behind the patching. It wasn't reviewed because of game play OBVIOUSLY...."Crysis 2 DX11 Tessellation & High-Res Texture Pack"...is the title of the article. It was blasting Crytek for poor business practice...not sure why you don't understand.
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I understand perfectly. The problems that [H] experiences with a retail copy aren't being experienced at least to the same degree as Steam users like myself. All this started when I made a simple post about how MY update process went. I simply described exactly how the process went, step by step. I made no judgments and I didn't tell anyone to shut up or that they were imagining things.

It's just difficult to make factual and logical statements about Crysis 2 without somebody getting overly emotional.
 
Great article [H] team. I looked at all your screenshots and I cant tell the damn difference between regular and hig res. This is definitely a FAIL game.
 
Brahmzy said:
Ya shoulda bought from Steam I guess, huh. My install literally was point n click - no reboots - just worked.
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I have the retail version and installed all the patches that I downloaded from geforce.com individually without reboots and had ZERO problems. Of course this doesn't mean there are no problems with the patch process. It seems there are. But the focus of the article were on the "TONS" (Steve's word in a reply to me a while back) of people suffering from the problems, ignoring of course the TONS that didn't have problems with it and still branded the patch process as FAIL.

Much like the reaction to "no DX11 support at launch", the patch problems are being severely exaggerated. But that's how sensationalism rolls...
 
heatlesssun said:
I understand perfectly. The problems that [H] experiences with a retail copy aren't being experienced at least to the same degree as Steam users like myself. All this started when I made a simple post about how MY update process went. I simply described exactly how the process went, step by step. I made no judgments and I didn't tell anyone to shut up or that they were imagining things.

It's just difficult to make factual and logical statements about Crysis 2 without somebody getting overly emotional.
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And even on the retail copy they're not being experienced by everyone. It's just sensationalism with the "OMG I had problems that means ALL versions have problems" crap...

The installation of the patches with a retail copy are very simple:

1) Download the patches (I downloaded them from gefroce.com)
2) Install them (I followed the order in the site - Patch 1.9, then DX11 patch and then high res texture pack)
3) Play

No reboots were required and it took longer to download the patches than it did to install them and start playing the game.
 
Brahmzy said:
Ya shoulda bought from Steam I guess, huh. My install literally was point n click - no reboots - just worked.
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I'd love to buy this game from Steam... but you can't anymore. EA pulled it, so I can't buy it there anymore.
 
Rizen said:
I'd love to buy this game from Steam... but you can't anymore. EA pulled it, so I can't buy it there anymore.
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EA didn't pull anything...it was Valve that pulled Crysis 2 from the Steam catalog and still did not explain why officially...
 
Silus said:
And even on the retail copy they're not being experienced by everyone. It's just sensationalism with the "OMG I had problems that means ALL versions have problems" crap...

The installation of the patches with a retail copy are very simple:

1) Download the patches (I downloaded them from gefroce.com)
2) Install them (I followed the order in the site - Patch 1.9, then DX11 patch and then high res texture pack)
3) Play

No reboots were required and it took longer to download the patches than it did to install them and start playing the game.
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You're right. Everyone that had problems is a liar because you didn't. And they need to be quiet because you didn't have problems. And Steve shouldn't have mentioned his problems because mentioning the fact that the game took 4 1/2 hours to patch is sensationalism and not what his experience was.

Next time Kyle gets in a dud power supply or something that burned up a PC while testing he should send it to you as a "gift". Just because it burned up $2,000 worth of gear doesn't mean it won't work for you. Then we would like to read your review of how great it is.
 
cesarioarce said:
I have surfed this forum for years and have come to the conclusion that I will not be coming back. Nor will I tell friends and family to do so. Kyle's lack of professionalism and foul language is a huge turnoff to me. Kyle claims that he is not a journalist nor a game reviewer, but "just a PC gamer with a bully pulpit.The reality is a little different sir. You have many people who rely on your site to make informed and accurate decisions about hardware and gaming purchases. Mnay times your percieved credibility will sway me to buy a new piece of hardware or purchase a game. If that is not the function of a reviewer or journalistic site then what is? In addition it seems to me that you ally yourself with players in the industry such as AMD for your BIG TEXAS EVENT.;) Would a company like AMD affiliate itself with a "pc gamer with a bully pulpit." Kyle, it's time you recognize your responsibilities and position of influence. You can start with conducting yourself a little more professionally........PLEASE CANCEL MY ACCOUNT I'M HEADING OVER TO ANANDTECH.:)
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What a wet fish. Your at [H] for the data it provides, go over to anandtech with the plebs and blow-hard numbnuts brigade, and swallow down your canned-benchmarks with gusto, and learn absolutely nothing about anything from here on in.
 
sblantipodi said:
Surely is Crysis 2, I'm playing it and its incredibly better than Crysis in terms of graphics.
Illuminations, penumbra, shadows, POM, tessellation, its simply the best looking game seen on a PC.
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Your character has not reflections in windows and water. Destructability is reduced alot. It is all shiney shiney and no substance. Gameplay is like that, too.
 
cageymaru said:
You're right. Everyone that had problems is a liar because you didn't. And they need to be quiet because you didn't have problems. And Steve shouldn't have mentioned his problems because mentioning the fact that the game took 4 1/2 hours to patch is sensationalism and not what his experience was.

Next time Kyle gets in a dud power supply or something that burned up a PC while testing he should send it to you as a "gift". Just because it burned up $2,000 worth of gear doesn't mean it won't work for you. Then we would like to read your review of how great it is.
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Since you have a hard time reading, I'll point you directly to this:

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037452797&postcount=295

...hmmm better post the quote directly, because you probably won't click on the link:

Silus said:
I have the retail version and installed all the patches that I downloaded from geforce.com individually without reboots and had ZERO problems. Of course this doesn't mean there are no problems with the patch process. It seems there are. But the focus of the article were on the "TONS" (Steve's word in a reply to me a while back) of people suffering from the problems, ignoring of course the TONS that didn't have problems with it and still branded the patch process as FAIL.

Much like the reaction to "no DX11 support at launch", the patch problems are being severely exaggerated. But that's how sensationalism rolls...
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I didn't have any problems installing the patch (Steam) but unfortunately it doesn't make the game less boring.
 
Silus said:
Much like the reaction to "no DX11 support at launch", the patch problems are being severely exaggerated. But that's how sensationalism rolls...
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Exactly, I have the Steam version and didn't have problems either. Somehow saying "Here's what I did and didn't have any problems with installing the Crysis 2 DX 11 Ultra Patch" is getting turned into by some as calling people liars or telling them to shut up.

Fascinating.
 
heatlesssun said:
Exactly, I have the Steam version and didn't have problems either. Somehow saying "Here's what I did and didn't have any problems with installing the Crysis 2 DX 11 Ultra Patch" is getting turned into by some as calling people liars or telling them to shut up.

Fascinating.
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Aren't you doing the same thing by bashing the people who DID have problems?

Funny how that works, or as you said, fascinating.
 
Sorry don't agree with the article outcome. This site has been in love with F1 2010, which shipped without dx11 and needed a complex PIA patch from Game for Windows live to get dx11. Don't really see the difference, except the complaints because someone has trouble installing a patch ?
 
Brahmzy said:
So you would ban people that don't agree with you? Got it.

Stupid much?
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I would have to ban about half of you! ;) Seriously, I learned a long time ago that you cannot grow a grassroots community while expecting my opinion to be the only one. You can tell me I am full of shit, I am good with that. People get banned when they start calling names etc.....

heatlesssun said:
All this started when I made a simple post about how MY update process went. I simply described exactly how the process went, step by step. I made no judgments and I didn't tell anyone to shut up or that they were imagining things.

It's just difficult to make factual and logical statements about Crysis 2 without somebody getting overly emotional.
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Hehe, this thread IS all about YOU! Thanks for bringing that to the rest of our attention. Not sure how I missed that previously.

kcthebrewer said:
I didn't have any problems installing the patch (Steam) but unfortunately it doesn't make the game less boring.
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True Dat!
 
notty22 said:
Sorry don't agree with the article outcome. This site has been in love with F1 2010, which shipped without dx11 and needed a complex PIA patch from Game for Windows live to get dx11. Don't really see the difference, except the complaints because someone has trouble installing a patch ?
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I did not know HardOCP was in love with F1 2010, thanks for bringing that to my attention. :confused:

Really? If you don't see the difference then this is not the thread for you.
 
Fail said:
Aren't you doing the same thing by bashing the people who DID have problems?

Funny how that works, or as you said, fascinating.
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Funny how that works is right.... LOL!
 
Fuck Kyle I just read the article. I'm sorry you had to go through all that but thanks for saving me money. I literally started reading the article thinking I'd be picking it up if the differences were large enough.

But what a kick in the teeth even if you didnt buy it at launch. You spend hours fucking around with patches for a "Slightly" better looking game? God I'd mail them back the game covered in shit.

You guys are awesome for going through all that misery just to save us time and money.
 
all this complaining by the same people who have bought the same COD and MW and HALO games 5 and 6 times. play 200 FPS in the last 5 years, none are going to look or play that great. We call that saturation, and several other things, it just boils down to , you eat cake every meal, soon you dont like cake.

Update worked fine for me, and no I am not playing it over to look at it. Open world game engine restricted to closed world was a fail to start in my book.
I sitll think DX 11 is just a way to make us all buy a new $600 video card... i think we all knew the differences would be small.
 
I'm still dying to know what first person shooter single player games are leaps and bounds ahead of this "pile of shit" that is Crysis 2. Someone please tell me.

It can't possibly be Metro 2033, since that's literally on rails.

Someone mentioned BFBC2 before. Sorry, but you'd be hard pressed to find a more linear FPS in the past few years.

Fear 3? Does that have lots of open-ended gameplay?
 
Raxxath said:
I'm still dying to know what first person shooter single player games are leaps and bounds ahead of this "pile of shit" that is Crysis 2. Someone please tell me.

It can't possibly be Metro 2033, since that's literally on rails.

Someone mentioned BFBC2 before. Sorry, but you'd be hard pressed to find a more linear FPS in the past few years.

Fear 3? Does that have lots of open-ended gameplay?
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What about the Stalker series? If you like twitch first person shooters, I recommend the original F.E.A.R and the Serious Sam First/Second Encounters on Steam.
 
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