ASUS PA246Q: 24-inch, 1920x1200, IPS

I use these settings:

F-Stop f/5.5
Exposure time 1/100th sec
Iso 1600
Exposure Bias 0
Aperature 4.9

I would recommend using day light or some strong light (distracted/bounced from a opposite/side wall or ceiling to avoid reflections) from the top of monitor so you don't have to use such high iso. Tripod + mirror lock up if it is dslr + timed release/remote to achieve sharp image without noise. If you don't have tripod you can use chair/wardrobe/desk/etc to keep camera stable. Though as you own dslr those things might be known to you ;).
Generally high ISO = high noise = less detail/sharp image.
 
Also waiting for the comparo from some kind soul between HPZR24W and this baby. I'm leaning towards this one due to the increased color bit depth.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Asus builds U2410s for Dell and these are essentially the Asus version.

This brings up a question that I have been wondering about from the beginning. Where does this panel actually come from. My first guess was that ASUS was getting the same LG panel that Dell was using, but now that the AG coating has been reported to be quite different it must be from a different source. It could be that ASUS is producing the panel them self. If this is true then we are finally looking at a real choice in IPS panels. Soon to be joined by Samsung's PLS Panels.

I think Dell has an exclusive contract with LG, because they dropped everything made by Samsung, (the 2407/2408 and others were PVA). This helps them get a better price structure.

This is all guess work for now, but I really do hope that we can start to actually have some better choices and some real compitation in this area.

Dave
 
Compares most closely with the NEC PA241W on paper

NEC.............................ASUS............................Dell
24" 1920x1200..............24" 1920x1200................24" 1920x1200
P-IPS.......................... P-IPS.............................H-IPS
1000:1.........................1000:1............................1000:1
8ms g2g.......................6ms g2g.........................6ms g2g
360cd/m2.....................400cd/m2.......................400cd/m2
10bit with 14bit LUT.......10bit with 12bit LUT.........8bit 10bit internal
98% Adobe...................98% Adobe....................96% Adobe

*edit2* this is just conjecture about which panel it uses, responding to the post above this one.
 
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Nah, Asus gets the panels from LG otherwise they wouldn't call it a P-IPS panel. Maybe it's just that Asus ordered them with a lighter coating. After all, Apple uses LG IPS panels, and they come in glossy version :rolleyes:.

Plus, if Asus made their own panels, news would have gotten on the interwebs already.
 
Compares most closely with the NEC PA241W on paper

NEC.............................ASUS............................Dell
24" 1920x1200..............24" 1920x1200................24" 1920x1200
P-IPS.......................... P-IPS.............................H-IPS
1000:1.........................1000:1............................1000:1
8ms g2g.......................6ms g2g.........................6ms g2g
360cd/m2.....................400cd/m2.......................400cd/m2
10bit with 14bit LUT.......10bit with 12bit LUT.........8bit 10bit internal
98% Adobe...................98% Adobe....................96% Adobe

*edit* compares closely with the u2410 too

All of the above is nonsense.
 
Nonsense how? Just saying it closely resembles the specs of the NEC panel - not implying that it uses the same one
 

What kind of refresh rate are you getting from them? I'm kind of hoping they'll get higher than 60Hz fairly easily (at least 72Hz, preferably 85Hz). Could you compare the refresh rates you get between DVI/HDMI, DisplayPort, and VGA?
 
Compares most closely with the NEC PA241W on paper
Regarding the electronic it is comparable to the U2410 (even the problematic nonlinearity in an important display mode (which was corrected with U2711 and U3011) is present - more information in the upcomming review @prad supplemented by a separate paper) which isn't astonishing when we are looking at the calibration sheet.

Best regards

Denis
 
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Ah, you mean the custom color mode ? That shouldn't impact the regular joe all too much, though professionals on a budget should look elsewhere if it performs like the Dell.
 
I was just joining in on the speculation about which panel, if not a unique one, is used in the display. I should have been clearer in my post.
 
What kind of refresh rate are you getting from them? I'm kind of hoping they'll get higher than 60Hz fairly easily (at least 72Hz, preferably 85Hz). Could you compare the refresh rates you get between DVI/HDMI, DisplayPort, and VGA?
i also wonder about that
72hz and no/low input lag would be a instant-buy for me
 
Oldie, thank you for the pics and info on the PA246Q. I suppose we are all wondering how this monitor fares with respect to tinting...which is a quality control issue that plagued the Dell U2410. An easy way to discern this would be to visit http://tapplox.com/imac-led.html and tell us if the white on the screen looks pink, yellow, green, or blue as you look from center -> right or center -> left. Another common issue with LG IPS monitors is a yellow tint along the bottom of the screen.

I got a great deal (less than $800) on the NEC PA241W and can attest to the superior image quality and lack of tinting or color banding. However, I was forced to return because the AG coating was awful and I could barely read text on a website...let alone type a document in Word...without having to look away. I called tech support and asked if LG manufactured the screens. The person I spoke with wasn't 100% certain, but thought that these screens are proprietary to NEC.

I now on the U2410 and can attest to each side of the screen having a different tint despite calibrating with i1display2. Not sure that I'll keep this one either and don't play the exchange game with Dell. I will say that the AG coating is much better with the U2410 than the PA241W.

Oldie, any additional info on the PA246Q after calibration would be much appreciated.

Seems to me that the person who designed the aesthetics of the PA246Q must have been a big Knight Rider fan :cool:
 
Anyone know how to get into the service panel on these? I was hoping to get a panel model # off of it.

Owning three of them I am quite aware of the tint issues on the 2410's and all three of my Asus displays appear to be quite consistent across the entire screen. I also can't say how happy I am with the superior glare coating on these as well.
 
What kind of refresh rate are you getting from them? I'm kind of hoping they'll get higher than 60Hz fairly easily (at least 72Hz, preferably 85Hz). Could you compare the refresh rates you get between DVI/HDMI, DisplayPort, and VGA?

Haven't really had the chance to play with them much yet, I've been stuck away from home all day, but I'll add some RR testing to the list. Hopefully I can do some more tomorrow. I can say that so far these have my 2410's pretty well beat....though again I don't claim any level of expert knowledge when it comes to displays.

Right now I've got the center on DP and the sides on DVI and the cables are all tied up. I'll see if I can toss one on HDMI for you.
 
The Fujitsu P27T-6 IPS without the red stripe looks interesting; is that the same panel ?
 
ya that fujitsu is nice but I dont think its the same panel, It was the only vid I could find of it on youtube besides the asus mfg vids
 
Any other H member owner updates or reviews? Im still waiting a short bit more before getting one or a few of these .
 
Well if there was a Canadian retailer like Futureshop or Best Buy where I could buy/return it hassle free I would gladly meassure/calibrate the Asus with my colorimeter and use SMT tool for input lag vs a CRT. Sadly these retailers only sell TN's and the ACD.
 
Oldie,

I now on the U2410 and can attest to each side of the screen having a different tint despite calibrating with i1display2. Not sure that I'll keep this one either and don't play the exchange game with Dell. I will say that the AG coating is much better with the U2410 than the PA241W.

Oldie, any additional info on the PA246Q after calibration would be much appreciated.

Seems to me that the person who designed the aesthetics of the PA246Q must have been a big Knight Rider fan :cool:

so could you tell me more about how the text looks like on the u2410? can you compare it to similar size TN panels or other IPS.

I get I am missing the point of IPS panels, they are supposed to offer a bigger viewing angle but then they have tint problems?!
 
Well if there was a Canadian retailer like Futureshop or Best Buy where I could buy/return it hassle free I would gladly meassure/calibrate the Asus with my colorimeter and use SMT tool for input lag vs a CRT. Sadly these retailers only sell TN's and the ACD.

Amazon is hassle free I think and I also think they sell to CA all day long. You may have a hassle on waiting for one to arrive and having to pay to ship it back though.
 
Hello All...new member here...I currently own the Dell U2410 and for the most part it's been a great monitor except I haven't been that happy with the anti-glare coating. I do photography as my main hobby and it can be annoying since at times, I think I'm seeing high ISO noise in images when in fact, it's the coating on the monitor. I took the plunge today and ordered the PA246Q from Amazon this morning and should be here Thursday. I'll post my impressions once I have it set up and compare it to the U2410 and post my impressions back here by the end of the week...
 
Hello All...new member here...I currently own the Dell U2410 and for the most part it's been a great monitor except I haven't been that happy with the anti-glare coating. I do photography as my main hobby and it can be annoying since at times, I think I'm seeing high ISO noise in images when in fact, it's the coating on the monitor. I took the plunge today and ordered the PA246Q from Amazon this morning and should be here Thursday. I'll post my impressions once I have it set up and compare it to the U2410 and post my impressions back here by the end of the week...

Great! We look forward to your analysis. I am in the same boat as you as far as what I will use it for.
 
Amazon is hassle free I think and I also think they sell to CA all day long. You may have a hassle on waiting for one to arrive and having to pay to ship it back though.

Amazon only ships movies/games/music/books to canada.

PRAD.de has received the Asus PA246q, should only be a week or 2 for the most in depth reviewon the web
 
They ship electronics, however they don't ship monitors or anything big really. Pretty much limited to movies/games/books/music. I couldn't even order headphones from them. Amazon US+Canada=Fail
 
Sounds like a great value without the bling bling stripe and graphics plastered all over bezel. Wonder if one can pull the red out? And Acetone will take off most labeling.
 
So... any reviews on this thing out yet?

Is it better than the HP? What kinda panel does it have? etc.

Looking good so far :eek:
 
so could you tell me more about how the text looks like on the u2410? can you compare it to similar size TN panels or other IPS.

I get I am missing the point of IPS panels, they are supposed to offer a bigger viewing angle but then they have tint problems?!

The text on the U2410, in my opinion, looks much better than the NEC PA241W. The NEC was great for images, but reading text made me dizzy. The Dell U2410 doesn't bother my eyes nearly as much, and I was encouraged with Oldie's post that the AG coating on the PA246Q is much better than the U2410.

IPS panels do offer much better viewing angles than the standard TN panels. However, this fact alone does not merit the additional cost. I am a designer and require accurate skin tones with my photography, for instance. Depending upon where I'm sitting and how a TN monitor is angled, a blush could look like a different shade if I was viewing the screen just a few inches off center. This phenomena is much less likely to happen with a 178/178 degree IPS screen. A wide gamut IPS panel also increases the color space to over a billion color shades. A standard TN panel averages colors with the 16.7 million available. I need the images on my screen to be identical to the printed product, so subtle differences in skin tones are important. If this wasn't the case, I would probably go with a nice LED.

Hope that helps.
 
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Im just tired of crappy TN. I am older and can afford better now. I want color richness bling bling.

The worst part...... I just finished playing Bulletstorm on my Panny VT25 50" beauty of a plasma. I fired up the game on my Asus TN and I felt like someone injected my eyes with bubonic plague. Simply put im so over freaking TN crappiness.

Now I cant wait to get some really indepth reviews from sites. I want to see if this LCD is worth the 100 more than the ZR24W.
 
Just read a review on Newegg that states ASUS does not have a zero bright pixel policy for the PA246Q. Disappointing...but not surprising. ASUS has never been known for their customer service.

For what it's worth, Amazon has an excellent 30 day return policy and Buy.com has a 45 day return policy (you just need to pay for return shipping). I'll probably buy my PA246Q from one of these retailers. Like everyone else, I'm just waiting for 1 or 2 solid reviews.
 
so could you tell me more about how the text looks like on the u2410? can you compare it to similar size TN panels or other IPS.

I get I am missing the point of IPS panels, they are supposed to offer a bigger viewing angle but then they have tint problems?!

Not all IPS displays suffer from tint issues, and even w/mild tint issues their colors are still more accurate than any TN's... And the viewing angles are clearly superior. Personally I'm going IPS primarily because of that last aspect, I wanna be able to use them in portrait and TN's in portrait = YUCK. A TN display's horizontal angles aren't typically bad, vertical they're still terrible usually. Otherwise I probably wouldn't sink so much money on displays since I don't have any professional need for them. If you aren't obnoxiously picky, the anti-glare coating on some of them is probably the only thing that might actually turn ya off. There's some pretty good budget IPS displays too (those 23" NEC's sell for like $265).
 
Not all IPS displays suffer from tint issues, and even w/mild tint issues their colors are still more accurate than any TN's... And the viewing angles are clearly superior. Personally I'm going IPS primarily because of that last aspect, I wanna be able to use them in portrait and TN's in portrait = YUCK. A TN display's horizontal angles aren't typically bad, vertical they're still terrible usually. Otherwise I probably wouldn't sink so much money on displays since I don't have any professional need for them. If you aren't obnoxiously picky, the anti-glare coating on some of them is probably the only thing that might actually turn ya off. There's some pretty good budget IPS displays too (those 23" NEC's sell for like $265).

thanks for your feedback. not I am not too picky. My main priority is text sharpness and good colors for pictures/movies. But from what I have read the NEC 23" IPS is based on the same panel as the dell u2311h and the samsung PSA has sharper text and better contrast and I can get it for $150. If I really had the money I would get a 24" IPS but it's almost 3 times that. It just sucks I have to go the 16:9 because of no alternatives in the price range.
 
Just read a review on Newegg that states ASUS does not have a zero bright pixel policy for the PA246Q. Disappointing...but not surprising. ASUS has never been known for their customer service.

For what it's worth, Amazon has an excellent 30 day return policy and Buy.com has a 45 day return policy (you just need to pay for return shipping). I'll probably buy my PA246Q from one of these retailers. Like everyone else, I'm just waiting for 1 or 2 solid reviews.

Well return shipping goes about $25-$30. My theory is if its sold directly by Amazon, you get it there.
 
Well return shipping goes about $25-$30. My theory is if its sold directly by Amazon, you get it there.

Amazon will send an RMA ticket for any item they sell or fulfill to cover UPS or the USPS, including pickup if you want.
 
thanks for your feedback. not I am not too picky. My main priority is text sharpness and good colors for pictures/movies. But from what I have read the NEC 23" IPS is based on the same panel as the dell u2311h and the samsung PSA has sharper text and better contrast and I can get it for $150. If I really had the money I would get a 24" IPS but it's almost 3 times that. It just sucks I have to go the 16:9 because of no alternatives in the price range.

Yeap, it does suck... There's a few bargains at 23"/1080p but nothing at 24"/1200. Best you can do is the ZR24W refurb straight from HP for $360 (still warrantied). That's actually what I'm getting soon for my Eyefinity setup (just gotta finish building the rig to clear out some space and boxes before I order the displays). I'll probably do one refurb and one new to pair w/my existing 24" Samsung TN, which I'll eventually replace if it I end up using it in portrait often enough that it bugs me too much.
 
If this thing can beat my Plasma in sheer colorful beauty I will get it if not I will just build my own IPS from the imported sands of Europa.

Panasonic's website:

"...plasma can display an incredible 8.58 billion colors"

So can you Asus???? Well Can YA?
 
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