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DDD I have around 18 mousepads in my room ( tried around 30 total during the last 7 years ) and 9 mice ( don't give me that look, I just like to experiment a bit ) , currently using it with an explorer 3.0 and it's pure sex, my hands are kinda small tho so i think zowie ec2 will be an even better fit plus, 500hz out of the box is just so awesome, upping your polling rate in win7 64bit is royal a pain in the ass, even by using this easy to follow guide http://www.+++++.com/news/15043-how-to-increase-usb-sample-rate-in-windows-vista-7-a.html i hope in ec1 (a DA without LIFT).. but this story of prediction make me unsure...Deathadder has prediction?? there is a way to put off prediction on EC1? i have had more and less 15 mouse, and 20 pads.. i want to solve all my problem
Hey Mohammed,
The question regarding mouse correction or prediction is very interesting, as there is no easy explanation. To give you the honest truth, it's not about whether or not a mouse has prediction. It's about the level of prediction it has, as all mice have some extent of prediction.
Most gamers today consider the mouse correction / prediction as a deed of pure evil which forces your mouse to make straight lines, even if you don't want to. Our mice does not force you to do anything, so in terms of the general understanding of the gaming community, our mice does not have any mouse correction. Your movement is your own.
However, to continue the story, if there was no prediction at all in a mouse, you would only get lines that look like this:
Please note that this is even if you drag your mouse completely straight.
Why is this? Well, take a look at the surface of your mousepad. It doesn't matter if it's plastic, cloth or something else, but what you are looking at will most likely be textured. When running your fingers across your mousepad, you can feel that it is uneven.
To get a stable experience when using a mouse, the sensor should only track on the even points of the surface, but as this is somewhat impossible, the sensor uses prediction to even out the gap in-between fibers and particles, so your experience is stable. We believe that this is the only thing prediction should be used for, and have therefore limited the prediction to be as low as possible. The term;prediction or not; was born with some manufacturers overdoing the prediction.
To give you a better understanding, I have created these images for you:
With a 125 Hz mouse, the tracking will look as in this image, with the red arrows being prediction:
As you can see from this image, the gap the sensor needs to predict to go from point A to B is very high.
There are sensors which naturally consider the prediction to be as low as possible, but most of them have other problems. There are other ways to achieve a minimum prediction. We use the Avago 3060 sensor because it is the most stable sensor available. The Avago 3060 is an older sensor, yet it still delivers the best overall performance during extensive use, making it the optimal sensor for a competitive gaming mouse. The Avago 3060 would normally be considered to have prediction, but our 1000 Hz evens out the prediction and makes the gap it needs to predict much smaller.
Look at this picture:
As you can see in this picture, the EC-mice updates 6 times faster than a normal 125 Hz mouse.
So the final answer to the question is:
Yes, the EC-mice do have prediction, but only the minimum level required in order to have a functional mouse. In terms of how gamers currently interprets the term prediction, then the EC-series would not be considered to have prediction.
I hope our honesty will be appreciated in the community. Trying out the mice will truly show that we have taken all of these things into consideration, and that our mice allows for free movement.
Best regards,
Danny Ramkvist
Chief Marketing Officer
glide/friction was the main factor i let this mouse go and went back to my trusty 1.1, i could still pull off some pretty good skeets in l4d2 but generally speaking aiming just feels more natural/easier with the 1.1 mainly, due to the smoother glide. Such a shame really, anyway gotta order a 1.1 champagne now