maverick786us
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With this design flaw, in older boards, is it safe to buy new P67 Boards right now or do I have to wait till March / April untill this thing does'nt get fixed??
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With this design flaw, in older boards, is it safe to buy new P67 Boards right now or do I have to wait till March / April untill this thing does'nt get fixed??
With this design flaw, in older boards, is it safe to buy new P67 Boards right now or do I have to wait till March / April untill this thing does'nt get fixed??
Good thing you brought up toyota...and exactly how many people died because of this Intel manufacturing issue?
How many Toyota's failed compared to how many millions were built? It was unfortunate that that officer and hid family died but he could have saved his butt with some very basic knowledge- if he actually learnd how to turn the car off (press and hold start button for 3 seconds). Since it was a rental and did not have a turnkey start, that should have been the FIRST question asked (How do I turn the car off in an emergency?) Did Toyota mess up? certainly, did they try and hide it? you bet, did their repuation suffer massively as a result? heck yea...did they try to blame someone else? yes they did. Were people blowing it all out of perportion based upon wild speculation? hell yeah they did.
Toyota's probem is only similar to the Intel one in the fact that it was an engineering oversight (no brake override) All the rest of the manufacturers that use DBW systems have had a brake override feature since they introduced it (Honda, GM, Chrysler, Ford, Nissan, etc)
Life is not risk free and you always take a chance when you buy or use something that it may or may not work as intended.
Intel stepped up to the plate and stated what the problem was and they immediately pulled stock and retooled to solve the issue. I would say kudos to Intel for doing the right thing and that they are more [H]ard than all of the [W]hiners in this forum..
Had a lot of troubles with my new build so far. Knowing I have to replace my board in another month or so if I do manage to get it running properly is a bit of a downer
This seems to be the theme, if Asus and other MB purchasers had not been having all these various issues with customers even getting their systems to work, do you think this would have been recalled?
My guess is the MB manufacturers went to Intel and said we are selling unstable motherboards and we think cougar point is flawed period. Intel had to find something wrong with them that they could announce in order to bail out the companies like Asus who was about to lose a lot of respect.
My guess is Chipset stepping C and MB rev 1.1's will have a lot of bugs worked out, not just the public one.
Except people fail to realize that for every poster that posts here and has issues theres another dozen sitting happily behind their machine with no issues. With a brand new chipset of course there is going to be some growing pains, but people are acting like 99% of people with these boards are having problems, and thats certainly not the case.
I'm talking about product QA and was not reaching any further than flaky version 1.0 products. A bad chipset isn't going to kill anyone unless you burst your aneurism from frustration with it or something. If it wasn't a big deal Intel and the board makers would not have allowed so much press and would have quietly did a BIOS gimp on the version 1.0 boards until the corrected chipsets were available.
And since when does anyone who sells a product that offers less than you paid for get a pass? Whether one wants to admit it or not (with this chipset) you're either stuck waiting for an RMA till April or you cross your fingers.
But if you want to bring safety into it. Yeah, the Toyota problem was a big deal, Even bigger than when Volvo had a similar problem 20 years earlier. Most of the deaths happened in Asian countries which is another reason you don't hear about larger numbers of fatalities in the U.S. The whole problem stemmed from Toyota being cheap and outsourcing components from the lowest bidder without any oversight. Chairman Toyoda's reach exceeded his grasp and he's already admitted it.
Maybe Intel has done the same thing and your x67 mobos are all going to suddenly rev to the stratosphere and fly off your desk and into your new Highlander and explode killing the whole cul de sac!
or not...
But is this defect so hard, that Intel is taking 2-3 months to get it fixed? They know what is causing the problem, by now they should have released a new updated rivision of this chipset for new buyers
Now I wished I had bought one when they were available. Think it would be nuts to buy one off ebay?
Mad props to New Egg. I sent them an email asking if I could RMA my entire system build, which included orders a week before I bought the mobo and cpu. Even though my SSD was open (the box, it was still in the antistatic bag) they are letting me return the entire thing for a refund with no restocking fee, which is why I will be buying my new system form them.
Personally, I'm extremely satisfied with my ASuS P8P67 even now while the problem occurred...
My M/B got four 6GB/s ports. 2 Intel and 2 Marvell. By the way, I'd like to ask, I got my Intel SSD and WD Caviar Black connected to Marvell ports and my DVD to Intel Port ( 6GB/s )...
Is it fine or you think I can gain much if I reverse the connections? I mean to put both of my disks in Intel ports and DVD in Marvell port...
Any suggestions with arguments about why?
Thank you! Waiting without any concern my brand new M/B in April!
Personally, I'm extremely satisfied with my ASuS P8P67 even now while the problem occurred...
My M/B got four 6GB/s ports. 2 Intel and 2 Marvell. By the way, I'd like to ask, I got my Intel SSD and WD Caviar Black connected to Marvell ports and my DVD to Intel Port ( 6GB/s )...
Is it fine or you think I can gain much if I reverse the connections? I mean to put both of my disks in Intel ports and DVD in Marvell port...
Any suggestions with arguments about why?
Thank you! Waiting without any concern my brand new M/B in April!
wow so your ssd has no problems but you are going to use the Intel problem as an excuse to return it?.....
I don't think the Marvell ports on that board support optical drives.
And that is supposed to mean what, exactly? Not only is it within the return window, it actually it has a huge fucking problem--I get really shitty read speeds out of it considering I HAVE NO MOTHERBOARD TO INSTALL IT IN.
I don't think returning a product I have no use for, within the return window, which was only opened by a slice on a sticker (the internals were never opened), because of a motherboard recall is an "excuse." I guess I should be stuck with all these parts I bought and cannot use because Intel designed a defective motherboard which I don't want to replace in the future? Then, I should just eat the difference in cost if I were to buy them later just to let them sit on my shelf? The bracket, memory, and CPU have no issues either. Should I eat those for 2-3 months, too?
lol i guess the fact that you could actually put the system together and use the 6GB ports while waiting for everthing to smooth out is a bad idea, right?
lol *waits for "but I had my hdd plugged into the sata 6GBps port" comment that is going to surely follow... all you had to do was be patient and this problem would have been sorted out and you would still be using your new build...now you RMA your stuff and are back to using an old system. Exactly how long does it take to swap a MB on a system with a pull out tray? not that long.... heck even with my mATX setup a board swap is <30 mins...... and that is without a slide out tray......
you got the system eveything works except for the 3GB ports and that would have been resolved in like <2 months anyways.
If you can find one, they are safe to buy, especially if you are only using 2 drives. however, you'll just have to exchange the board in the April timeframe, so may as well just wait until then.
Laptops mostly use only 1 HDD. So is it safe to buy an HP Envy 17 with an SB CPU and HD 6850?
Laptops mostly use only 1 HDD. So is it safe to buy an HP Envy 17 with an SB CPU and HD 6850?
No. The laptop would ONLY run on the bad chipset, there wont be another to use in its place.
You'd have to check with the manufacturer - some of them probably use the 6G ports, and since you can't add extra drives, they would be fine.
Im pretty sure there are no 6g ports on the laptop chipsets. Why in the world would there be?
Suppose you never know but im fairly certain all the SB laptops are running on the bad sata ports.
Personally I'm not that bummed out over the whole thing as a lot of you are... But I do think it's a very big deal, it may not have much of an impact for Intel in the long run but it's still a royal screw up and AMD could very well capitalize on it in a big way (but probably won't.
I'm actually kind of glad I bought my system in the nick of time (the Friday before the recall the following Monday)...
No, I didn't even have it yet. It literally just arrived in my office. I'm not going to unbox and put it together just to return it later. I can wait another two months for a new build.
Exactly how long does it take to mail a MB to somewhere, wait for them to receive it, wait for them to ship one back, and rebuild it, all while going without a desktop? Some of you guys seem real butt hurt about people not wanting to build a system and replace the MB in two months. Sorry, but I can tough it out for two months with my Q6600.
Knowing the chipset revision somehow would be very helpful indeed. It kind of reminds me of the situation with NVidia's GTX260 cards, with its 192 & 260 SP versions without any clear indication of which type you got unless you did some research. At least there you could research using the model number. Will SB chipsets offer such an option? Will there be some easy way to verify you got a defect mainboard? I think it's a very legitimate question.
Almost every single 216 core version of the GTX260 was labeled with "Core 216" in the name or at least on the box in huge letters.