New Lian Li PC- Q11 itx case : Specification & Feature

Hello All,

I've built up a q11 based on this threat (awesome case!), but am running into heat issues. The cores idle at 40C-45C and easily get into the 80-90C range when running Prime95, but stick to the 60-70C range when playing SC2.

I've tried replacing the stock HSF, as well as made sure that I've put the right amount of thermal paste on, etc. I've also run all the components outside of the Q11 and i'm still getting the same temps. Are any of the components to blame? I've even gone so far as to RMA the i5-760, thinking it was a defective CPU, but the replacement CPU is running just as hot as my first one.

Here's what i'm running:

ZOTAC H55ITX-C-E
Core i5-760
Scythe Shuriken Rev. B HSF
EVGA GeForce GTX 460 SC 768mb
4 GB G.SKILL Ripjaws
OCZ Vertex 2 60 gb SSC
OCZ OCZ550FTY 550W Power Supply
WD Caviar Green 1TB 3.5"

Thanks!
 
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Hello All,

I've built up a q11 based on this threat (awesome case!), but am running into heat issues. The cores idle at 40C-45C and easily get into the 80-90C range when running Prime95, but stick to the 60-70C range when playing SC2.

I've tried replacing the stock HSF, as well as made sure that I've put the right amount of thermal paste on, etc. I've also run all the components outside of the Q11 and i'm still getting the same temps. Are any of the components to blame? I've even gone so far as to RMA the i5-760, thinking it was a defective CPU, but the replacement CPU is running just as hot as my first one.

Here's what i'm running:

ZOTAC H55ITX-C-E
Core i5-760
Scythe Shuriken Rev. B HSF
EVGA GeForce GTX 460 SC 768mb
4 GB G.SKILL Ripjaws
OCZ Vertex 2 60 gb SSC
OCZ OCZ550FTY 550W Power Supply
WD Caviar Green 1TB 3.5"

Thanks!

Well if you've gotten the same temperatures outside of the case, then the case can't be the problem. What's the ambient temperature? The HSF you're utilizing is a decent low profile HSF but then again after reading the [H] review that was conducted in March 2010, that HSF performed worse than the stock HSF; though they were using it on a i7-920. With that being said, I don't think your temperatures are that bad (not talking about Prime because that's an extreme scenario). You could try changing the CPU fan to a higher RPM one.
 
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Honestly I dont think you should be seeing those temps.. How much, How was it applied & what kind of thermal paste?
 
Well if you've gotten the same temperatures outside of the case, then the case can't be the problem. What's the ambient temperature? The HSF you're utilizing is a decent low profile HSF but then again after reading the [H] review that was conducted in March 2010, that HSF performed worse than the stock HSF; though they were using it on a i7-920. With that being said, I don't think your temperatures are that bad (not talking about Prime because that's an extreme scenario). You could try changing the CPU fan to a higher RPM one.

Thanks for the advice. I don't know what the ambient temperature is inside, but i'm in Chicago and its 20 degrees F outside and the computer's right next to a window. I'm looking into replacing the stock Scythe fan with a more powerful one (maybe a Noctua), hopefully that'll cool things down a bit!

Honestly I dont think you should be seeing those temps.. How much, How was it applied & what kind of thermal paste?

Thats what I thought also, given numerous review on how cool th 760 runs. I used Arctic Silver 5, and i tired to go for the "grain of rice" sized ball in the middle of the CPU, then placed the HSF directly on the CPU. I've tried different methods (the dot in the middle, spreading the compound out with a credit card, spreading with a bag over my finger) and the temps seem to stay the same. Perhaps there's something that I'm just not getting about thermal compound application? It's been years (last build was a socket 939) since I've done this. Here's the amount that I used:

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Thanks for the advice. I don't know what the ambient temperature is inside, but i'm in Chicago and its 20 degrees F outside and the computer's right next to a window. I'm looking into replacing the stock Scythe fan with a more powerful one (maybe a Noctua), hopefully that'll cool things down a bit!



Thats what I thought also, given numerous review on how cool th 760 runs. I used Arctic Silver 5, and i tired to go for the "grain of rice" sized ball in the middle of the CPU, then placed the HSF directly on the CPU. I've tried different methods (the dot in the middle, spreading the compound out with a credit card, spreading with a bag over my finger) and the temps seem to stay the same. Perhaps there's something that I'm just not getting about thermal compound application? It's been years (last build was a socket 939) since I've done this. Here's the amount that I used:

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yea It should be more like a pea sized ball in the center.. a grain of rice isnt going to spread enough to cover the whole CPU
 
hi guys, i have been watching this thread for some time now, but no one has seemed to try fit a HD6870 in the Q11, the dimensions were good enough to convince me it would fit and if it didnt i was going to make it. So as you can see in the photos below, the case was a few mm too short. So i made it take it, it only bowed the front of the case out a little and i had to assemble all the components around it.

But so far so good, the tight squeeze from the case doesnt seem to create vibrations or noise. And im quite happy to have a nice powerful GPU in such a little and light case.

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hi guys, i have been watching this thread for some time now, but no one has seemed to try fit a HD6870 in the Q11, the dimensions were good enough to convince me it would fit and if it didnt i was going to make it. So as you can see in the photos below, the case was a few mm too short. So i made it take it, it only bowed the front of the case out a little and i had to assemble all the components around it.

But so far so good, the tight squeeze from the case doesnt seem to create vibrations or noise. And im quite happy to have a nice powerful GPU in such a little and light case.

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Damn.. You certainly put that GPU in its place. Thank you for the pics though, after realising the dimensions I figured a 6870 could get in there, but I had already bought my 6850.. well I am not willing to bend the case like that so I made the right call. Very very cool none the less.
 
I've been thinking lately if its possible to use a H50 in this case and mount the fan with the radiator on the fanplace. Anyone know it this has been tested? right now i have AXP 140 but it still gets pretty hot in the case, 55+ celsius when playing SC2.
 
I've been thinking lately if its possible to use a H50 in this case and mount the fan with the radiator on the fanplace. Anyone know it this has been tested? right now i have AXP 140 but it still gets pretty hot in the case, 55+ celsius when playing SC2.

I don't know. You'll need a 140mm fan with 120mm fan mounts or have an 140mm to 120mm fan adapter. I have a 140mm enermax fan that has 140mm and 120mm fan mounts so I have thought about a H50 as a HSF but there isn't much distance between the CPU socket and the front intake fan. Add in the radiator and possibly the 140mm to 120mm fan adapter and it might be a little difficult to orient the tubing. Just like you, I'd like to give it a shot. Unfortunately, I just bought a AXP-140 and will run it fanless (</3 noise) which I assume you're also doing. I, on the other hand, don't play any games so the temperatures shouldn't be a problem for me. If it does get too hot, I can always purchase a scythe slip stream slim 120mm/140mm fan. Have you tried a scythe slip stream slim 120mm fan?
 
I don't know. You'll need a 140mm fan with 120mm fan mounts or have an 140mm to 120mm fan adapter. I have a 140mm enermax fan that has 140mm and 120mm fan mounts so I have thought about a H50 as a HSF but there isn't much distance between the CPU socket and the front intake fan. Add in the radiator and possibly the 140mm to 120mm fan adapter and it might be a little difficult to orient the tubing. Just like you, I'd like to give it a shot. Unfortunately, I just bought a AXP-140 and will run it fanless (</3 noise) which I assume you're also doing. I, on the other hand, don't play any games so the temperatures shouldn't be a problem for me. If it does get too hot, I can always purchase a scythe slip stream slim 120mm/140mm fan. Have you tried a scythe slip stream slim 120mm fan?

If there aint room otherwise there would be with this...
 
Quite funny :). Im actually a gamer and I have a 140mm fan on the AXP140 and not running it fanless! The temp goes up to 57 degrees on my CPU, i5 750.

The problem is if you use a converter, it takes to much space and it wont cool down the northbridge etc.

I am also using a PSU extender for my SFX PSU and if i dont use it, the temp goes up by 10! Its pretty bad.. I want to take a pic and upload it but at the moment, i dont have a good camera.
 
Quite funny :). Im actually a gamer and I have a 140mm fan on the AXP140 and not running it fanless! The temp goes up to 57 degrees on my CPU, i5 750.

The problem is if you use a converter, it takes to much space and it wont cool down the northbridge etc.

I am also using a PSU extender for my SFX PSU and if i dont use it, the temp goes up by 10! Its pretty bad.. I want to take a pic and upload it but at the moment, i dont have a good camera.

we'll take a crappy cell phone pic..
 
Quite funny :). Im actually a gamer and I have a 140mm fan on the AXP140 and not running it fanless! The temp goes up to 57 degrees on my CPU, i5 750.

The problem is if you use a converter, it takes to much space and it wont cool down the northbridge etc.

I am also using a PSU extender for my SFX PSU and if i dont use it, the temp goes up by 10! Its pretty bad.. I want to take a pic and upload it but at the moment, i dont have a good camera.

Yes pictures please! I'm going fanless with mine when I receive mine! When do you mean by converter?
 
I was trying to think of a nice way to fit a Corsair H50 (or an ECO A.L.C) into the Q11 and I'd like some feedback if my method is possible or practical. This isn't a solution for everyone, it depends entirely on what devices are placed in the optical bay.

My plan is to put the BZ-525, a 5.25" to 4 x 2.5" bay converter, in the optical bay. Behind the hard drives, I would cut out a 120mm blow hole on the top of the case, similar to the Q08. That is where I'd mount the H50. I haven't been able to confirm if the space between the PSU and the top of the case would be sufficient to fit a fan+radiator. My guess is that it will work based off of photos from the Q08. People routinely mount the H50 on that top exhaust fan and it looks like the distance in the Q11 between the PSU and the top of the case is equal or greater than that distance in the Q08. Would anyone be able to measure the distance for me? I'd like to use an ATX power supply in this case if everything will fit.

The depth of the case is 260mm, so a 2.5" HDD (100mm) + a radiator/fan (120mm), should fit in nicely. This will require trimming some of the excess metal off of the bz-525 and the optical bay, but I don't think it will require much work.
 
Why the convertor in the 5.25 bay? A Q11 can mount plenty of drives on the floor. is something already going there? Otherwise, it appears that your idea would work
 
I was trying to think of a nice way to fit a Corsair H50 (or an ECO A.L.C) into the Q11 and I'd like some feedback if my method is possible or practical. This isn't a solution for everyone, it depends entirely on what devices are placed in the optical bay.

My plan is to put the BZ-525, a 5.25" to 4 x 2.5" bay converter, in the optical bay. Behind the hard drives, I would cut out a 120mm blow hole on the top of the case, similar to the Q08. That is where I'd mount the H50. I haven't been able to confirm if the space between the PSU and the top of the case would be sufficient to fit a fan+radiator. My guess is that it will work based off of photos from the Q08. People routinely mount the H50 on that top exhaust fan and it looks like the distance in the Q11 between the PSU and the top of the case is equal or greater than that distance in the Q08. Would anyone be able to measure the distance for me? I'd like to use an ATX power supply in this case if everything will fit.

The depth of the case is 260mm, so a 2.5" HDD (100mm) + a radiator/fan (120mm), should fit in nicely. This will require trimming some of the excess metal off of the bz-525 and the optical bay, but I don't think it will require much work.

Seems like a whole lot of work just to screw up a pretty case... How about PE-01 + 140mm Fan Adapter & mount the cooler to the front.
 
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@wwischerath:
Why the convertor in the 5.25 bay? A Q11 can mount plenty of drives on the floor. is something already going there? Otherwise, it appears that your idea would work

I guess there are three reasons to put the drives in the optical bay. 1) If I chose to add a top blowhole, not much else would fit in the bay, so it's a good use of space, 2) Bit Tech's review (link) scared me from placing my hard drives at the bottom of the case.
Here's the quote I am referring to:
The location of the graphics card "creates two cooling zones within the case, because the graphics card PCB acts as a separator for airflow, meaning cooling in the lower half of the case was limited. With a relatively high power graphics card this area becomes a hot zone too, with the heat of the GPU cooking the hard drives. After 30 minutes of 3DMark06 looping we found our hard disks were running at just over 50OC. "

And the 3rd reason is that I thought I could make my rig quieter by using the space underneath the GPU to fit an aftermarket cooler. Thermalright shaman maybe :)- although that is pretty excessive.

@Bastage
Seems like a whole lot of work just to screw up a pretty case

I agree it would be a lot of work :). That's why I am hoping to not screw it up. I want to keep it clean. That is why I wanted to get the opinions of others, so I don't make any dumb mistakes. The grill would probably be this or this.
 
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@wwischerath:

I guess there are three reasons to put the drives in the optical bay. 1) If I chose to add a top blowhole, not much else would fit in the bay, so it's a good use of space, 2) Bit Tech's review (link) scared me from placing my hard drives at the bottom of the case.
Here's the quote I am referring to:


And the 3rd reason is that I thought I could make my rig quieter by using the space underneath the GPU to fit an aftermarket cooler. Thermalright shaman maybe :)- although that is pretty excessive.

@Bastage


I agree it would be a lot of work :). That's why I am hoping to not screw it up. I want to keep it clean. That is why I wanted to get the opinions of others, so I don't make any dumb mistakes. The grill would probably be this or this.

Figure also that they had 2x 3.5" drives mounted on the bottom mount. I dont know what your plans are for HDD's, But I wouldnt be worried about it especially if you diddnt have crap shoved up against the bottom of a large GPU cooler like they did. In mine I will be mounting an SSD & a 7200 rpm laptop HDD & calling it a day.. No 3.5" to clog up the area. But that close to the GPU its of no surprise the temp on those drives climbed like they did in that review. Also of note the cooler on that GPU doesnt exhaust out of the case or even away from the area really. Kinda just recycles the air in the immeadiate area with the cooler & HDD configuration they had.

As far as the grill goes the problem isnt so much the grill as it is simply making it look factory. As to those specific grill's, I can just imagine what the dust buildup is going to be like. I would opt for some trim around the hole to clean the edge & a black wire grill.
 
OK Its finally a Done deal.. I just submitted my order for a PC-Q11R.. Yea thats right I got the red one.. Still not sure why, But I bet the blue components I have (like everything inside) is going to POP...

Edit: Just ordered my Cooler & storage drive (2.5" 7200 rpm Samsung) as well as the PP05 Short cable kit for my PSU.. All on 3 day shipping so with alot of luck this may be a Christmas day build..

Complete Specs will be:

Asus m4a88t-i
Phenom II x2 555 Calisto (unlocked to a b55 & then underclocked/volted until I can find a happy spot with the new cooler & case)
Lian Li PC-Q11R
Gigabyte Radeon HD6850
2x2gb Kingston HyperX ddr3 1866 Mhz
OCZ Vertex 2 90gb SSD
Samsung Spinpoint MP4 500GB 7200 RPM Notebook Drive
SilverStone ST60f-p w/ PP05 short cable kit
 
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Yes pictures please! I'm going fanless with mine when I receive mine! When do you mean by converter?

I took some crappy pics! :D

The specs is:
i5 750
Dfi lanparty
4gb ram
AXP-140
BeQuiet sfx 350W
PSU Extender from Lian Li
Gainward GTX460
Intel SSD 80GB
WD 2TB greenpower


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I took some crappy pics! :D

The specs is:
i5 750
Dfi lanparty
4gb ram
AXP-140
BeQuiet sfx 350W
PSU Extender from Lian Li
Gainward GTX460
Intel SSD 80GB
WD 2TB greenpower

Thanks. Does your PSU not fit normally (i.e. because of the PSU cables coming out the top) or did you wanted more airflow in the case? How thick is the fan attached to the AXP-140?
 
Just ordered my Cooler & storage drive (2.5" 7200 rpm Samsung) as well as the PP05 Short cable kit for my PSU.. All on 3 day shipping so with alot of luck this may be a Christmas day build..

Complete Specs will be:

Asus m4a88t-i
Phenom II x2 555 Calisto (unlocked to a b55 & then underclocked/volted until I can find a happy spot with the new cooler & case)
Lian Li PC-Q11R
Gigabyte Radeon HD6850
2x2gb Kingston HyperX ddr3 1866 Mhz
OCZ Vertex 2 90gb SSD
Samsung Spinpoint MP4 500GB 7200 RPM Notebook Drive
SilverStone ST60f-p w/ PP05 short cable kit

Sounds like a sweet system. Keep us in the loop. I am particularly curious how well that cable kit fits your system.

Also what cooler did you buy?
 
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Thanks. Does your PSU not fit normally (i.e. because of the PSU cables coming out the top) or did you wanted more airflow in the case? How thick is the fan attached to the AXP-140?


the psu doesnt fit normally and i had to buy a bracket for the mounting. i believe i paid about 7bucks on ebay so it was worth it. if you buy the one from silverstone you get a bracket with it.

it was the best option for the psu to be like it is so it can get cool air instead of the heat plus the it will be easier to hide the cables. the fan is a normal one incher and the manufacturer is fractal design.
 
the psu doesnt fit normally and i had to buy a bracket for the mounting. i believe i paid about 7bucks on ebay so it was worth it. if you buy the one from silverstone you get a bracket with it.

it was the best option for the psu to be like it is so it can get cool air instead of the heat plus the it will be easier to hide the cables. the fan is a normal one incher and the manufacturer is fractal design.

Hm well I'm going to try fanless first. It should fit without a need for a PSU extender. Just by looking at the picture, it seems that the PSU hovers over the left edge of the fan (by normal 1 incher, you mean a 25mm fan). With that in mind, it would seem that the PSU would fit over the AXP-140 with a 25mm fan but then again I could be wrong. What are the dimensions of that be quiet! PSU?
 
Sounds like a sweet system. Keep us in the loop. I am particularly curious how well that cable kit fits your system.

Also what cooler did you buy?

OH I forgot to list it. I bought the scythe big shuriken.
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Hm well I'm going to try fanless first. It should fit without a need for a PSU extender. Just by looking at the picture, it seems that the PSU hovers over the left edge of the fan (by normal 1 incher, you mean a 25mm fan). With that in mind, it would seem that the PSU would fit over the AXP-140 with a 25mm fan but then again I could be wrong. What are the dimensions of that be quiet! PSU?

yea it doesnt. the PSU covers a little bit and with the help of the bracket, i get an extra 10mm more space which made the 25mm fan fit.
This is what i bought and if you check the mounting holes, you can see about how much more space you get.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SFX-PS2-brack...mponents_RL&hash=item2c59916579#ht_500wt_1156

The Dimensions is (W, H, D) 125 x 100 x 63,5
 
Just pulled the trigger on this build from newegg :)
Didnt get a PSU though, I want to experiment with a Pico PSU.

Any advice for what Power brick and PSU unit to get??? Will a Pico 90w adapter be enough?? There will be a higher-end sound-card added to it as well.
How can I wire a Delta DA-2 220w Power brick to a PICO (or other) PSU??

If no one knows, ill probably post in the PSU forum :p

I also got a Noctua D14 Heatsink and I am praying that it will fit (doubtful :( ) I wanted to do something really cool with the case (cram a huge heatsink in, run it nearly passive ducted to the front intake or something).
It looks like the 5.25" drive will get in the way! I am waiting on getting the case (thursday its looking like), to see if I can somehow put a slim optical drive in it but Im thinking it will be more trouble than its worth :(

I would have loved to use it for this build but I may end up having no other option other than a scythe shuriken passively with a 120mm PSU :(

A little overkill on the ram, but it is just too cheap to pass up nowadays :rolleyes:
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So just got the case in, I am very surprised on how Lian-Li has slipped quality wise over the years.

Some of the fucking worst designs ive ever seen. Who designed the optical bay? What a fucking idiot, you have to pull the whole bay out of the case to get to the drive. And to make things even more confusing, I accidentally removed the bezel and the fucking spring flew off (good thing they include absolutely no replacements).

Worst part is Id have to shell out $15 for another piece of shit drive bezel and wait a week or more for it to show up.
Second, Why the FUCK are the cables the same length as a full size ATX case?? The USB Cables are twice as long as they need to be, and the internal cables are 3 times as long as they need to be.

I havent bought a LiLi personally since my V1000 back in the day, and I dont think I will ever again buy a low end Lian Li case.
The "Dragonlord" (AKA Ugly as shit) line they have just further proves to me that they have stopped making flagship computer case.

/end rant
Absolutely some of the worst and most unintuitive designs ive ever seen. The PCIE covers are bowed inwards for some reason, the aluminum is just waaaay too thin on this case, and the fit and finish on everything is pretty sub-par for a $100 case like this (gaps, and the aluminum doesnt look straight because it is not rigid) . Way to loose a long time supporter Lian Li...
 
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Dude, every review I saw on this case described how the ODD bay had to come out. Sorry about the bezel. I cant comment on the cables or other particulars, just noted that your complaint is cables too long and the Q07 complaint was the USB cables were too short. (cant win) Admittedly, the PWR and reset cables seem a little long on the Q07, but since I dont have mobo yet, judgement will be withheld.
 
Yea the Internal cables are long, But routing them is easy.. In my old qo7 they all got tucked neatly behind the mobo.. not a big deal at all.. ^ from everything else that rant is complaining about, it sounds more like your case got abused in shipping. I have a q11r sitting under my tree right now & I will be posting pics as soon as I put the system in it.
 
I bent the case back in shape, but the rear was bowed inwards in the center (like they had to wedge it together and rivet it??). Same with the PCIE Bezels. I guess I was a little flustered when I made that post, I have since gotten it to come together fairly well but I have no idea what the fuck to do about the bezel. It was my fault for not reading more reviews and being familiar with this retarded mounting system. I also really love how you have to remove the mobo panel to get to the other screws if you have to swap opticals out :(

Will probably have to just use some 3M foam tape or something because im not shelling out $15 for another one. I have no idea why the fuck they couldnt have made it like every other lian li case ive used and have the drive easily slide in from the front. I should have read the instructions with the case, but I figure well designed cases shouldn't need instructions for experienced system builders. This case may be unconventional, but there is no reason they couldn't have used the same system and riveted in the 5.25 cage.

Anyway, some obligatory pics of the build progress. Just bought a Pico 160XT but its not going to be here till after the 1st of January. Im thinking of ripping a PSU out of another comp I have around so I can start installing Windows and tweaking software (I have to leave on the 4th of january).

The D-14 is massive, and easily triples the weight on the mobo. It worries me since the ITX boards only use 4 screws and the Li Li standoffs seem kind of dinky (time will tell I guess...).

Most of it is just test fitted, I will tear it down and properly stuff wires, once I get the PSU and have all the wires I need.

Specs: Gigabyte H55n-USB3, I3 550, Intel X-25M, 8gb Mushkin Black Line (1600), DVD Burner
Pics:
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TIM Contact on the first try
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The room its going into:
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The shade is actually pretty close. The light makes the darker Q11 appear lighter so they look very close in shade.
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That is one massive cooler. Question: with a pico psu just how much power is the cpu getting to need that kind of cooling? (I may have missed what your intentions are for this build, so let me know). Otherwise it looks like it is comin along. As for the bezel, maybe someone with a Q08 build removed theirs for water cooling controls or something. Ask around and maybe someone will give it to you. Or at least be cheap.
 
That is one massive cooler. Question: with a pico psu just how much power is the cpu getting to need that kind of cooling? (I may have missed what your intentions are for this build, so let me know). Otherwise it looks like it is comin along. As for the bezel, maybe someone with a Q08 build removed theirs for water cooling controls or something. Ask around and maybe someone will give it to you. Or at least be cheap.

He said he accidently won the noctua nh-d14 on ebay. :p
 
Yeah it was like $50 so it was hard to pass up, hehe. It might be changed to fit a sound card in there, but its looking more and more like he is going to get a USB DAC for his setup :D

The fans will probably be barely spinning (i will use the noctua low noise and ultra low noise adapters, and the CPU fan will be speed controlled anyway (apparently the gigabyte mobo can only support speed control on one fan).
Would the mobo have enough power to drive the 140mm Lian Li fan and the Noctua 140mm fan off one header? I have a splitter but im not sure if it is a good idea.

Im waiting on a new optical drive because I completely fucked the old one up trying to glue on an extension for the button but will make a post in the FS forum. I really only need the spring is what sucks :(
 
Sounds like a sweet system. Keep us in the loop. I am particularly curious how well that cable kit fits your system.

Also what cooler did you buy?

Short cable kit is nearly perfect.. See here for pics. You can see there isnt anything coiled or bundled & if they were custom made just 1 cable (PCIe)would have been about 2" shorter. But that was an easy one to deal with.
 
TTT,
I am kind of worried about the weight on the Lian Li standoffs, with the D14 mounted to the mobo. It weighs like 3 lbs, but if I had a high end GPU installed wouldn't it also stress the standoffs??

Im probably worried over nothing though...
 
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