Chinese Build 15 Story Hotel in 2 Days

Its not impressive at all. Those are all prefab parts.

And the worst part is that hotel is not designed to withstand another beyond moderate winds.

In a similar region in China, a similar hotel was built. Then a gust of wind came and blew it down. Pics:

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Things built in China just aren't very good, no matter how quickly they're built. But in all fairness, not all.

Just a FYI, I think this is a case of a real picture next to a made up story.

First, it wasn't a hotel and I don't see anything about it being a prefab building.
Second, it collapsed because of the poor construction practices and a shoddy foundation, not because it was prefab and was toppled by "a gust of wind".
 
Did anybody notice that there's no elevator and only one set of stairs for the 15 story building?

As others have said, wouldn't pass inspection here in the US. Great publicity stunt though.
 
Just a FYI, I think this is a case of a real picture next to a made up story.

First, it wasn't a hotel and I don't see anything about it being a prefab building.
Second, it collapsed because of the poor construction practices and a shoddy foundation, not because it was prefab and was toppled by "a gust of wind".

I knew some important information was missing. It usually is when China threatens American superiority.
 
Your not kidding there..

My company just finished a job in NJ. The job was all union other than the project managers and site supervisors. We could not touch a shovel, move silt fence, or do anything on the job unless a union laborer making $35/hour did it, not even drive a truck on the job site to deliver the silt fence to them.

I'm not kidding about the $35/hour. A guy who used a shovel made $35/hour and couldn't wait for the job to be over so he could go back home and collect a paycheck from the union while sitting on his ass.

Union equipment operators make $70/hour.

True Story..

Any everyone blames Bush...

That's the "Union" for you. People think the Mafia is bad.. The Union are worse than the MOB.. I would like the see the UAW in a few years when there a no cars made in America (R.I.P. Pontiac).
Unions use to have a purpose back in the early days, now they are just useless greedy "LEGAL" crime syndicates.
 
I'm not kidding about the $35/hour. A guy who used a shovel made $35/hour and couldn't wait for the job to be over so he could go back home and collect a paycheck from the union while sitting on his ass.


True Story..



Are you sure about that? I think you mean that once the job was done the guy went home and collected unemployment benefits until another job began.

Have you ever worked in construction? Seems like a tough way to make a living. Especially with the economy in the USA.

I don't know how those workers in China can make a living if they finish their job in 6 days.

I wonder how many workers it took to build this hotel in 6 days.
 
when it last more than 25 years, i'll consider it.

else , no way in hell.
 
I'm starting to think this is just some anti-china propaganda. It's supposed to scare us into thinking China is so great.
 
That's the "Union" for you. People think the Mafia is bad.. The Union are worse than the MOB.. I would like the see the UAW in a few years when there a no cars made in America (R.I.P. Pontiac).
Unions use to have a purpose back in the early days, now they are just useless greedy "LEGAL" crime syndicates.

Worse. They are government supported thieves. They have the whole Democratic left bought and paid for. The dems take our money, shovel it to public unions, who in turn put it right back in the dems' campaign coffers. Absolutely disgusting and yet no one stops it.
 
Your not kidding there..

My company just finished a job in NJ. The job was all union other than the project managers and site supervisors. We could not touch a shovel, move silt fence, or do anything on the job unless a union laborer making $35/hour did it, not even drive a truck on the job site to deliver the silt fence to them.

I'm not kidding about the $35/hour. A guy who used a shovel made $35/hour and couldn't wait for the job to be over so he could go back home and collect a paycheck from the union while sitting on his ass.

Union equipment operators make $70/hour.

True Story..

Any everyone blames Bush...
So the moral of the story is, Union = good shit. If there's someone out there making $35/hour doing back breaking work, good for him. Power to him, I would say.

Now, the CEO's who do nothing but look like head figures, that make millions a year, these are people I would be concerned with. The real blight of the economy.

That Union worker is going to take that money and spend it somewhere that's going to help the economy. That CEO's millions, won't.

Adelphia, a cable company took a billion dollars, and built a golf course. Dennis Kowalski took 464 million dollars from his company, and wasted it on stupid things. We are worried about people who work and make money for $35/hour? Try to understand, that rich people money isn't the same as middle class or poor class money. What they buy, and where they spend it, isn't likely to trickle down to the middle class or poor class. Rich people money stays within the rich.
 
i agree with those that say who cares how fast the chinese can build things, one good thing to youtube is chinese crash test.
 
Just a FYI, I think this is a case of a real picture next to a made up story.

First, it wasn't a hotel and I don't see anything about it being a prefab building.
Second, it collapsed because of the poor construction practices and a shoddy foundation, not because it was prefab and was toppled by "a gust of wind".

Throw up a deceiving picture of your opponent, make a convincing lie, then leave out any credible sources.
lol the guy must be in politics.

However that building was in China still, so I guess it doesn't help them any lol
 
So the moral of the story is, Union = good shit. If there's someone out there making $35/hour doing back breaking work, good for him. Power to him, I would say.

Now, the CEO's who do nothing but look like head figures, that make millions a year, these are people I would be concerned with. The real blight of the economy.

That Union worker is going to take that money and spend it somewhere that's going to help the economy. That CEO's millions, won't.

Adelphia, a cable company took a billion dollars, and built a golf course. Dennis Kowalski took 464 million dollars from his company, and wasted it on stupid things. We are worried about people who work and make money for $35/hour? Try to understand, that rich people money isn't the same as middle class or poor class money. What they buy, and where they spend it, isn't likely to trickle down to the middle class or poor class. Rich people money stays within the rich.
You shouldn't make 70,000 USD a year to work a fucking shovel.

The rest of your post isn't really worth responding to, but rather than blaming CEOs for how much they are paid, why don't you try directing the hate on the people who approve their salaries, aka the stockholders and boards of directors? And good CEOs are worth every penny - the problem is the idiots who approve golden parachutes for all the bad ones.
 
You shouldn't make 70,000 USD a year to work a fucking shovel.

The rest of your post isn't really worth responding to, but rather than blaming CEOs for how much they are paid, why don't you try directing the hate on the people who approve their salaries, aka the stockholders and boards of directors? And good CEOs are worth every penny - the problem is the idiots who approve golden parachutes for all the bad ones.

You shouldn't be telling people how much they should be making. Perhaps you should only be making $10/hr
 
Interesting, but the building's exterior color scheme reminds me of Donkey Kong.
 
Unions + Special interests = this never happening in the US :(
Severe changes in our political system have to be made for us to compete with this level of development.
 
It's pretty apparent that nobody in this thread understands what a PREFAB building is.
 
Just a FYI, I think this is a case of a real picture next to a made up story.

First, it wasn't a hotel and I don't see anything about it being a prefab building.
Second, it collapsed because of the poor construction practices and a shoddy foundation, not because it was prefab and was toppled by "a gust of wind".

Poor constructions and shoddy foundation more or less spells china. They can't do anything right. ever.
 
eh, its impressive by any standards. and as for US unions, if you ever wonder why jobs don't exist or have left in some markets the answer is because unions make labor prohibitively expensive.
 
To build a hotel in such short time is quite impressive. But to build it in two days is kinda unbelievable.
 
eh, its impressive by any standards. and as for US unions, if you ever wonder why jobs don't exist or have left in some markets the answer is because unions make labor prohibitively expensive.

If I built new cars for a living,I would like to be paid enough to buy one I don't expect a Cadillac but a lumina would be nice
 
Its not impressive at all. Those are all prefab parts.

And the worst part is that hotel is not designed to withstand another beyond moderate winds.

In a similar region in China, a similar hotel was built. Then a gust of wind came and blew it down. Pics:

3671971505_910a4e6957_o.jpg


Things built in China just aren't very good, no matter how quickly they're built. But in all fairness, not all.

Not quite correct, first that was an apartment building and two, it was a result of shear in the foundation due to destabilization created by excavtion on one side and piling the dirt to close upon the opposite side. I remember reading the reports on it after it happened.
 
If I built new cars for a living,I would like to be paid enough to buy one I don't expect a Cadillac but a lumina would be nice


That is like saying "If I built Mansions for a living I would like to paid enough to buy one. Maybe not in Malibu, but Orlando would be nice."

You are a perfect example of a union member and your sense of entitlement is mind blowing.
 
Impressive; but instead of building a Lego hotel they should build some better housing for Foxconn employees using the same method.
 
Not quite correct, first that was an apartment building and two, it was a result of shear in the foundation due to destabilization created by excavtion on one side and piling the dirt to close upon the opposite side. I remember reading the reports on it after it happened.

What's foundation? From looking at the photo it looks like they forgot to build a foundation for it.
 
Its not impressive at all. Those are all prefab parts.

And the worst part is that hotel is not designed to withstand another beyond moderate winds.

In a similar region in China, a similar hotel was built. Then a gust of wind came and blew it down. Pics:

3671971505_910a4e6957_o.jpg


Things built in China just aren't very good, no matter how quickly they're built. But in all fairness, not all.

I understood that this was a residential structure. Additional photos of the building show hollow support piles instead of a solid concrete structure thus providing little or no structural support. Excavation adjacent to the building undermined structural support thus allowing the building to collapse.
 
I think thats two different things

The safety of the buildings depends largely on the construction company who would tries to cut cost every single way they can regardless of safety. But the workers who actually does all the work are merely doing what they are told. It doesn't mean they have bad work ethic. They are probably hardworking enough to work extra hours to complete a project in a short time, but they are still basically doing what they are told to do.
No that is bad work ethic, or just plain ignorance in that they are not qualified (i.e. being an electrician not simply having done electrical work, ditto for plumbing, structural work, etc) which most likely is the case. A billion day laborers and all that rot. An electrician who does crappy work, even if he's told to cut corners, has no work ethics because they know better.
 
But look at how well that apartment block held together. Just teach people to live perpendicular!
 
If I built new cars for a living,I would like to be paid enough to buy one I don't expect a Cadillac but a lumina would be nice
the problem would be that you don't actually build cars. you are just assembling parts. The complexity of your job should determine what you are paid, not the fact that you have a job.
 
the problem would be that you don't actually build cars. you are just assembling parts. The complexity of your job should determine what you are paid, not the fact that you have a job.

Not just complexity but how laborious it is too. You think becoming a robotron for 8 - 12 hours a day is an easy task? You want to talk about over paid? Just look around you at all the people in management that do next to nothing and get paid four fold what the actual workers do. How is that fair in any way? Management is for people too lazy to do any real work. I subscribe to the communist theory that every worker's job is just as important as the next person's job because a society with no garbage collectors just would not be able to run very well at all. Sure if you put in more effort to get training for a certain job you should be compensated for it but there are plenty of people in sales and management that have no skills at all except a big mouth and are willing to treat their fellow man like shit. A salesman is just a glorified con man so IMO should be paid the least.
 
The complexity of your job should determine what you are paid, not the fact that you have a job.

Json23 said:
You are a perfect example of a union member and your sense of entitlement is mind blowing.

People love to ignore simple factors. There is 1 thing that determines pay and 1 thing only. What people are willing to work for. It doesn't matter what you think someone should make. It matters what they are willing to accept. If a company doesn't like the $70/hr shovel workers the stockholders can choose the abandon the business and go do something else or do the work somewhere else (as with the auto industry).

But saying a job is only worth $X/hr only shows the feeling of entitlement that most of the right wing never admits to. Most conservatives feel entitled to cheap labor. How is the conservative sense of entitlement to cheap labor any different to this supposed union entitlement to wages?

Employeers and employees agree on terms and wages. If the company doesn't like it, they can leave the market. I love how many people preach free market and don't actually mean it.
 
There are actually modular homes being built in the US in this manner, marketed as green homes. I don't really know why they're labeled eco-friendly or green, other than perhaps their composition (or because they can and people will buy anything labeled green or organic these days). Entire buildings like these are another matter. I think that picture of the entire hotel blown over is a testament to the durability of the build itself, but that means jack shit if it's not implemented and grounded properly in a solid foundation.

They are called green because they are made with less materials than a normal building. This building allegedly is supposed to be 500 kilograms per square meter vs two tons per square meter for the average meter. Another word for these buildings, which is what they used here is "sustainable". These type of buildings actually are supposed to be able to withstand earthquakes better because everything is screwed in instead of welded, and because it's lighter, although it should be noted the 9.0 test was on a scale building.

As far as this building, and it's foundation it was set long before, and allegedly it took the construction company six months to set everything up (foundation, materials creation, getting everything coordinated so parts were available just in time, etc)
 
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