GTX 580 rumors

Lord_Exodia said:
http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/20724-nvidias-dual-5x0-card-comes-in-2010

http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/20722-geforce-560-also-candidate-for-2010

No sleep for either side... possibly :D
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I think that both sides can live with their high end products. What i find more interesting are Nvidia's new products in the midrange and performance segment because as it is right now the door is really open for them. HD6850 and 6870 are rather disappointing. No real advantage over the competition. 6850 fights with the standard 4601GB and 6870 with the OC models of the 460 1GB.
The 570 and 560 will be Nvidia's biggest trump card and my feeling is they will play that very well. Dunno why AMD just went for a cheaper replacement of the 5850. They should have known that the 460 is not fully enabled and OC's very well, which gives Nvidia plenty of options. And finally all this filtering/shimmering mess. They need to fix that on Cayman otherwise the feedback will be not so positive as the media now gets attention to that topic.
 
Richthofen said:
Dunno why AMD just went for a cheaper replacement of the 5850. They should have known that the 460 is not fully enabled and OC's very well, which gives Nvidia plenty of options. And finally all this filtering/shimmering mess. They need to fix that on Cayman otherwise the feedback will be not so positive as the media now gets attention to that topic.
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Uhhh......The 6850 and 6870 aren't replacements for the 5850. The 6950 and 6970 are replacements for the higher-end market.

Oh, and in regards to the 68xx OC ability:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...6850-vs-gtx-460-1gb-overclocking-study-5.html
 
Pictures! :

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And yes, GTX 580 IS a GF110 :)
 
Tamlin_WSGF said:
Pictures! :

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125aa976-1496-418c-8d8e-abca2b946a2a.jpg

And yes, GTX 580 IS a GF110 :)
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MMmhmm 6 pack here I come...

Oh wait you never bet :confused:

Edit, why does the card say 3d vision surround on it? Do you think they might have surround on a single card? Meh doubt it but chances are there, slim but there...
 
Lord_Exodia said:
MMmhmm 6 pack here I come...

Oh wait you never bet :confused:

Edit, why does the card say 3d vision surround on it? Do you think they might have surround on a single card? Meh doubt it but chances are there, slim but there...
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Probably just marketing. They put surround outside of the case on the 480's without it being able to do surround on single card, here's to hoping at least! :)

@ umcpgrad: Pictures came from here:
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1490066&postcount=7192

I normally put source, but forgot it this time in the rush. Love pictures of new toys. :p
 
umcpgrad said:
dang that is a beaut
so how long is the card?
and dual 8pin for power?
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basically the same length as the gtx480 and no reference card has ever had dual 8 pin. why would you think the gtx580 would anyway since it will use the same or less power than the gtx480?
 
cannondale06 said:
basically the same length as the gtx480 and no reference card has ever had dual 8 pin. why would you think the gtx580 would anyway since it will use the same or less power than the gtx480?
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You're right about no card having a dual 8-pin as far as I know. If everyone looks at the pic showing the back of the card, you can see the PCI-E auxiliary power connection pins, there is a 6-pin and an 8-pin for the card, assuming these pics are and will stay true to design specs.

On a separate note, I miss the days of neat looking coolers for these cards, like the 6800Ultra and the 7800GTX512, especially the ones from BFGTech. All of the recent mid to high range of cards seem to all follow the default cooler from the 8800GTS512. Honestly, they just aren't that appealing, though I know they are functional for their purpose. Guess I'm just picky and need to look more at 3rd part coolers. :p
 
Edit, why does the card say 3d vision surround on it? Do you think they might have surround on a single card? Meh doubt it but chances are there, slim but there...
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I hope so too. I want to go multi-montior, and I'm in need of a new videocard. (4870 512mb is finally starting to show it's age).

Even though i have an SLI mobo, I will not buy another nvidia card until it has multi-monitor capabilities on a single card. If the 580 has it, and it faster than the 6970, I'll bite, but even if it's faster by a long shot, I'm not interested without surround on a single card.
 
Well, looking at the back, it doesn't appear to support multiple-monitors. It doesn't seem to have a display port connector. Also, though the card looks nice, Inno3d's label is ugly....Hope to see the other brands.
 
MisterClean said:
I hope so too. I want to go multi-montior, and I'm in need of a new videocard. (4870 512mb is finally starting to show it's age).

Even though i have an SLI mobo, I will not buy another nvidia card until it has multi-monitor capabilities on a single card. If the 580 has it, and it faster than the 6970, I'll bite, but even if it's faster by a long shot, I'm not interested without surround on a single card.
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A single cad is just not powerful enough overall to be a lot of fun in multi-monitor overall, it's definitely a no go for 3D though I do understand that is a technology with limited appeal and AMD is just getting on board with it.
 
So the question is, is this the card that signals the return of the NV we all know & love, or is it another 'just good enough, by the skin of our teeth' card?

They could easily go to more than 512 SPs if they dropped the DP support...
(since DP > 4x size of SP)

- DP should be, at most, 1/4 rate of SP, not the 1/2 rate of the GF100
- it's just wasted silicon designing 1/2 rate DP.
:rolleyes:
 
A1 Silicon
- the GF104, GF106, GF108 all went to production on A1 silicon too ...
NV must be getting somethings right now...
;)

Also, Wk 41, so they've had the chip 3 wks and they're already read to launch it
- pretty impressive
- I wonder how many wafers of A1 silicon they made in this batch?

BTW, the first GF104 samples were Wk 12, so from then until now, they had 29 wks of time to engineer the GF110
- let's assume the GF106 & GF108 were lesser tasks, and not in need of too much attention.

So, how much could they have accomplished in these 29 wks....?
(assuming all the design pipeline stages back up by the same amount for each chip.....)
 
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Been out of the game since I built my current quad core machine with a GTX 280 over 2 years ago.

Have no reason to upgrade as there are absolutely no games that I play which are unplayable on high details at 1920x1440.

Nevertheless, I am getting that itch of wanting some new tech to play with. Apart from DX11 capability, am I going to notice a marked difference in performance upgrading to this new nvidia card?
 
samurai1999 said:
Hmmm, I wonder if it's happening already .....
;)

http://alienbabeltech.com/abt/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=22010&start=20#p42498


da, da, daaaa!
http://alienbabeltech.com/abt/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=22010&start=30#p42501
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Yep, reviewers have had them starting end of last week.

We know how this thing will perform at this point as well as expected TDP and price: reviews will be mostly pedantic and formality (not that I won't read them...). The real question is how Cayman Pro (6970) will compare and what pricing will be on that card.
 
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harmattan said:
Yep, reviewers have had them starting end of last week.

We know how this thing will perform at this point as well as expected TDP and price. The real question is how Cayman Pro (6970) will compare and what pricing will be on that card.
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Exciting times. I will be holding off until the 6970 launches and we get into another price war like the current 4xx cards against the 68xx cards. :D
 
Heebs said:
Exciting times. I will be holding off until the 6970 launches and we get into another price war like the current 4xx cards against the 68xx cards. :D
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^^^ This is the smart thing to do, also if you plan on going multi card like me you should wait for 580 SLi vs 6970 crossfire review and driver scaling results in multiple games and real world gaming scenarios.
 
harmattan said:
Yep, reviewers have had them starting end of last week.

We know how this thing will perform at this point as well as expected TDP and price: reviews will be mostly pedantic and formality (not that I won't read them...). The real question is how Cayman Pro (6970) will compare and what pricing will be on that card.
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Just a point of clarification Cayman Pro is the 6950, Cayman XT is the 6970.
 
it is always 499
can't wait
and just maybe '11 q1
570 - 350
560 - 200
550- 150
530-100
yay
 
umcpgrad said:
it is always 499
can't wait
and just maybe '11 q1 Q4 '10
570 - 350
560 - 200/$189.99/$229.99 (2 versions)
End Q1 2011
550- 150 $179.99
530-100
yay
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My Forum Famous crystal ball edits in Red
 
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defiant007 said:
Nevertheless, I am getting that itch of wanting some new tech to play with. Apart from DX11 capability, am I going to notice a marked difference in performance upgrading to this new nvidia card?
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The 480 is a decent step up from the 280, so the 580 will be even more significant - probably a 50% improvement overall, maybe more.
 
lostroc888 said:
Hey Exodia,

What is your reasoning for two versions of the 560? Care to make a prediction on the differences between the cards if indeed there are two models?
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sure, one to compete with the 6850 and one to compete with the 6870.

The high end one may be a full blown GF114 which is much like a fully enabled GF104 384 Cores possibly with better TDP and much faster clocks 900+ 1900+ 2200+ smaller GPU(cost much less than 470)
The second one may be a 460 1gb clone however based on GF114 (better TDP and faster) cut down to 336 Cuda Cores and clocks upwards of 900+1800+2000+ smaller GPU(cost less than 460)

Either of these should defeat 6850/6870 by a very good margin and have good overclocking headroom ;) Fun to speculate but my crystal ball is the shiznit
 
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defiant007 said:
Been out of the game since I built my current quad core machine with a GTX 280 over 2 years ago.

Have no reason to upgrade as there are absolutely no games that I play which are unplayable on high details at 1920x1440.

Nevertheless, I am getting that itch of wanting some new tech to play with. Apart from DX11 capability, am I going to notice a marked difference in performance upgrading to this new nvidia card?
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Yea thats exactly the problem I have with my GTX 275OC, sure on the odd game I may need to turn down AA a tad or maybe shadows one notch to stay around 50 FPS+, but the visual quality sacrifices if any in recent games is tiny.

Currently playing Fallout Vegas and that puppy sits on 90+ ultra, not helping with a good excuse to upgrade lol,

With PS3 and Xbox360 not being replaced for maybe another year or two, game developers are not going to spend huge amounts of time and cost developing major new gaming engines just for the PC market. Seems the Discrete Graphics industry is at the point of hitting a wall a brick wall.
 
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