Am I the only one that doesn't like the new UI?

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I skipped Vista, so I'm coming from using XP for however long that's been out. I bought Vista way back when CompUSA went out of business for $50. I had planned to install it after I upgraded some stuff in my system, but everything was running fine and I just didn't feel like starting over. Next month it will have been 4 years since I last installed an OS. :eek: Yes, that's right, I've been running XP for 4 years without a re-install. It boots up in about 30 seconds and runs just like I installed it yesterday.

I'm going to be building a new system next month, and I wasn't planning on installing Win7 until then. But I got curious and threw an old drive in my eSATA dock and installed Win7 on it to play around. I downloaded drivers for my chipset, video and sound first and put them on a USB stick. I keep getting an error about the sound drivers and it asking me if I want to disable some feature. I can't be more specific since I've booted back to XP, so I definitely will have to wait until I get a new system before moving to Win7.

It seems to me like the new UI was designed for blind people. Everything is so damn big by default. I've set what I can to be smaller, like the desktop icons and icons in explorer, but why are the window borders so fat? It feels like I have less room to work with even though I'm on the same monitor and resolution.

I like the new task bar, but I don't like the start menu. There are too many default shortcuts that pretty much do the same thing, like a shortcut to you personal folder, your documents, pictures and music, which are all just subfolders of your personal folder anyway. That's easy to fix though.

It's nice that you can type to search for things in the start menu, but with the XP start menu, I know where everything is. I can open most programs with my eyes closed. I don't like how if I want to browse the start menu in Win7 that I'm confined to that little box. Why can't they make the menu pop out like it does in XP?

I've only played around with it for a few hours trying to get a feel for it, so that's my initial impression.
 
It takes some time getting used to. Especially the taskbar because its a taskbar / launch bar all in one. (biting off of OSX from the looks of it)

I do like it myself thought MINUS the flicker I get when I hit CTRL+ALT+DEL to bring up task manager.

btw, You must have left your XP machine off for 3 of those 4 years and never installed anything because for it to boot up like new after 4 years is next to impossible. The registry alone from installing new apps becomes fragmented and corrupt from design.
 
Nope, I can't stand the layout either. That plus it doesn't work well with a bunch of programs I have (not without jumping through hoops), I'm still on XP for the foreseeable future.
 
You can make the start menu taller by changing # of recent programs to display to 30. that helps

Also, I use those 30 spots to pin my most commonly used apps to the start page, just like you can do in XP/Vista. So that, the desktop, and the pinned icons on the taskbar prevents me from almost ever going to the "All Programs" in the start menu
 
jimnms said:
It's nice that you can type to search for things in the start menu, but with the XP start menu, I know where everything is. I can open most programs with my eyes closed. I don't like how if I want to browse the start menu in Win7 that I'm confined to that little box. Why can't they make the menu pop out like it does in XP?
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I have to admit, I have NO idea why people prefer the XP Start Menu. I think that it's an abomination to some deity compared to Vista/7. The popout menus??? If you have a lot of programs installed in a small screen it's simply a catastrophe. Being a tablet user you appreciate the design a bit more I think. The UI works MUCH better with pen and touch though its still not entirely finger friendly.

Also you might want to check out the keyboard shortcuts: http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/windows-7-keyboard-shortcuts-to-increase-productivity/

You might find something useful in those to replace something that you think you've lost.
 
djgizmo said:
btw, You must have left your XP machine off for 3 of those 4 years and never installed anything because for it to boot up like new after 4 years is next to impossible. The registry alone from installing new apps becomes fragmented and corrupt from design.
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I have a 4 year old install of XP as well was one for almost 3 years solid and it's still kickin' it pretty good. My work install is 3 years old and its as fast as it's always been, but with all of the crap they put on our machines it was never that fast to begin with.

Most installs that slow down I have found are almost always do to malware or stuff people never knew they had on their machines in the first place.
 
heatlesssun said:
I have to admit, I have NO idea why people prefer the XP Start Menu. I think that it's an abomination to some deity compared to Vista/7. The popout menus??? If you have a lot of programs installed in a small screen it's simply a catastrophe. Being a tablet user you appreciate the design a bit more I think. The UI works MUCH better with pen and touch though its still not entirely finger friendly.

Also you might want to check out the keyboard shortcuts: http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/windows-7-keyboard-shortcuts-to-increase-productivity/

You might find something useful in those to replace something that you think you've lost.
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I know about the keyboard shortcuts, but most of them aren't really shortcuts. The two I use the most are WIN+D and WIN+L. For everything else, it's quicker just to use the mouse. It's just much faster to launch a program with XP. I can launch any program with two clicks of the mouse. With the Win7, you have to click the start button, then start typing, then click your program when it shows up, or since the menu stays cramped in that little box, and sub-menus don't pop out, you have to make several clicks.

For example, if I want to run defrag. In XP, with one hand on the mouse, I click start, move up to All Programs, Accessories, System Tools and click Disk Defragmenter. I used TweakUI to shorten the time it takes for the sub-menus to auto open, so I only have to pause for a fraction of a second before the sub-menu opens.

With Win7, to do this I have to click start, move to the keyboard and type "def" before Disk Defragmenter shows up, then move back to the mouse and click it. Or if I just use the mouse, I have to click Start, click All Programs, click Accessories, click System Tools and finally click Disk Defragmenter. That's 5 mouse clicks in Win7 to mouse 2 clicks in XP, or 2 mouse clicks and three keystrokes in Win7 vs. 2 mouse clicks in XP.

It just seems like a step backwards to me. I'd like to see keeping the ability to click Start and type to search, but let the menu expand out like it does in XP.
 
chinesepiratefood said:
You can make the start menu taller by changing # of recent programs to display to 30. that helps

Also, I use those 30 spots to pin my most commonly used apps to the start page, just like you can do in XP/Vista. So that, the desktop, and the pinned icons on the taskbar prevents me from almost ever going to the "All Programs" in the start menu
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Tanks, that does help. I disable the recently used programs and items, but it seems to stick if I set it to a higher number, then turn it back off.
 
The problem with Win7, and any OS that relies upon a search button, is you don't always know what you want to run. Just like the Internet, I do occasionally like to "browse" what is on my computer. Sometimes I forget all the stuff I've loaded.
 
Valnar said:
The problem with Win7, and any OS that relies upon a search button, is you don't always know what you want to run. Just like the Internet, I do occasionally like to "browse" what is on my computer. Sometimes I forget all the stuff I've loaded.
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Start-> All Programs ->

Now you have an alphabetical list of your programs

Super easy

I tended to hyper organize my XP stuff into folders...alphabetical suits me fine in Vista/ 7.

The sideways-extending menu hierarchy was kinda fussy on XP. I prefer the new subfolder style in Vista/7.
 
jimnms said:
I know about the keyboard shortcuts, but most of them aren't really shortcuts. The two I use the most are WIN+D and WIN+L. For everything else, it's quicker just to use the mouse. It's just much faster to launch a program with XP. I can launch any program with two clicks of the mouse. With the Win7, you have to click the start button, then start typing, then click your program when it shows up, or since the menu stays cramped in that little box, and sub-menus don't pop out, you have to make several clicks.

For example, if I want to run defrag. In XP, with one hand on the mouse, I click start, move up to All Programs, Accessories, System Tools and click Disk Defragmenter. I used TweakUI to shorten the time it takes for the sub-menus to auto open, so I only have to pause for a fraction of a second before the sub-menu opens.

With Win7, to do this I have to click start, move to the keyboard and type "def" before Disk Defragmenter shows up, then move back to the mouse and click it. Or if I just use the mouse, I have to click Start, click All Programs, click Accessories, click System Tools and finally click Disk Defragmenter. That's 5 mouse clicks in Win7 to mouse 2 clicks in XP, or 2 mouse clicks and three keystrokes in Win7 vs. 2 mouse clicks in XP.

It just seems like a step backwards to me. I'd like to see keeping the ability to click Start and type to search, but let the menu expand out like it does in XP.
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Well with win7 I can launch any of my most used apps in one click as I have them pinned to the task bar. If I need a second instance of an application it’s still just one click (middle click). I rarely use the start menu anymore, I just have the 16 most used items pinned to my taskbar.

The more you get used to launching from the pinned items the more you can leverage jump lists to save even more time. Why open word, then choose a recent doc to work on when you can right click the pinned word icon and choose to jump directly to the recently used doc.

As for your defrag example its far faster to press the winkey on the keyboard, type "defr" and hit enter than to use the mouse in XP. If you really use any app that often pin it to your taskbar or start menu.
 
heatlesssun said:
I have a 4 year old install of XP as well was one for almost 3 years solid and it's still kickin' it pretty good. My work install is 3 years old and its as fast as it's always been, but with all of the crap they put on our machines it was never that fast to begin with.

Most installs that slow down I have found are almost always do to malware or stuff people never knew they had on their machines in the first place.
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I have an industrial PC (serving as a mail server) that has had Win2k since the year 2002. Still fast (5min... fast for win2k) boot speed.

The thing is: most people will experience slowdowns.
 
I don't use the start menu anymore... all my commonly used programs are pinned to the new superbar....
 
jeremyshaw said:
I have an industrial PC (serving as a mail server) that has had Win2k since the year 2002. Still fast (5min... fast for win2k) boot speed.

The thing is: most people will experience slowdowns.
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If that is 2k server functioning as a DC, that's not bad, but 5min for a Win2k workstation is SLOW....
 
QwertyJuan said:
If that is 2k server functioning as a DC, that's not bad, but 5min for a Win2k workstation is SLOW....
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Advanced Server, to mostly serve as our IMAP mail server / 'backup' AD... and 5min is fast, iirc for Win2k. I hated how slow it was, but I remember throwing a fit back then about how much RAM windows XP needed, lol. 64mb required, 256 recommended... what!? 256MB or RAM!? Are you nuts!? That is a gaming setup, not a work computer!:p
 
jimnms said:
With Win7, to do this I have to click start, move to the keyboard and type "def" before Disk Defragmenter shows up, then move back to the mouse and click it. Or if I just use the mouse, I have to click Start, click All Programs, click Accessories, click System Tools and finally click Disk Defragmenter. That's 5 mouse clicks in Win7 to mouse 2 clicks in XP, or 2 mouse clicks and three keystrokes in Win7 vs. 2 mouse clicks in XP.
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Windows key -> type "defr" -> hit enter -> hey look, no mouse clicks at all!
 
jimnms said:
I know about the keyboard shortcuts, but most of them aren't really shortcuts. The two I use the most are WIN+D and WIN+L. For everything else, it's quicker just to use the mouse. It's just much faster to launch a program with XP. I can launch any program with two clicks of the mouse. With the Win7, you have to click the start button, then start typing, then click your program when it shows up, or since the menu stays cramped in that little box, and sub-menus don't pop out, you have to make several clicks.
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All I can say is that almost all of this is just wrong, sorry.

Always quicker to use the mouse to launch a program? That's just wrong. You can launch ANY program pined to the the task bar via Shift+Win+Taskbar Position. With a macro keyboard (which could do it anyway, I know) that's just one key.

Launch any program with two mouse clicks in XP. Sure. And depending on how many programs you have and screen size add about 5 minutes of waiting for sub menus to popup. The only difference in Vista/7 is manual scrolling and clicking. Not significantly different IMHO. 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

And your last scenario, click, type, click, when it all could be done via the keyboard. Launching the control panel in Vista/7. Hit the "Win" key. Type "con" (depending on when you last used it and how many programs you have with "con" in them you may have to use the arrow types or type more of the word "control". Hit "Enter". No need to EVER touch the mouse. MUCH faster for even a not so great typist like myself.

7's GUI shell is EXTREMELY keyboard friendly. If you learn to use it to launch stuff instead of the mouse its MUCH faster.
 
K10 said:
i'm a bit torn on the new UI. i'm using vista and i rarely use the start menu because all the programs and documents i use frequently are pinned on quick launch.

i'm not sure how the new windows 7 task bar is supposed to be more efficient than what i'm doing right now.

also, i don't get that uncluttered feel with the new UI. for me, the middle/main portion of the taskbar is my blank canvas. when i'm working with a large number (20+) of word and excel documents at the same time in vista, that's all i want to see on the main/middle portion of the taskbar, not all the other work unrelated icons pinned.
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From E7: http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/20...-windows-on-the-evolution-of-the-taskbar.aspx

When researching and modeling a person’s workflow, we came to realize that there were three basic steps that a person frequently seems repeats. First, she finds the program and launches it. Then, she uses the program’s UI to open a file she wants to work on. Then finally, she gets to work.
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If one increases the size of Quick Launch, one must then determine what to do with the taskband. As previously discussed, we observed that under many scenarios of single-instance programs, launching and switching were equivalent. Hence, we decided to standardize this behavior and have program launchers turn into window switchers when they are launched. Effectively, we unified Quick Launch and the taskband.
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There's more, but basically it comes down to this: having two copies of a program, one that launches and one that activates, doesn't make sense. Much better to unify and thus simplify those, simultaneously reducing the complexity of the bar as well as the clutter.
 
Tawnos said:
From E7: http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/20...-windows-on-the-evolution-of-the-taskbar.aspx


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There's more, but basically it comes down to this: having two copies of a program, one that launches and one that activates, doesn't make sense. Much better to unify and thus simplify those, simultaneously reducing the complexity of the bar as well as the clutter.
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I read this some time ago and thought it was very interesting read and it made a lot of sense. How many programs to I use ALL the time? About two dozen but a dozen are constantly running. Why not pin them to the taskbar since I'll be running them anyway. The other not as frequently used programs are pinned to the Start Menu.

Just works damn well and will for 95% of the people out there if they simply use it how it was intended and get over the difference.

Plus the search in 7 is just amazing. Just about EVERYTHING is searchable. There's almost never a need to look for anything.
 
I came from vista ultimate, so the UI isn't new to me, but i love it x1000 over xp. the aero glass, imo, really adds to the "wow" factor as well as functionality. I am still getting used to the new taskbar, but so far i am absolutely 100 percent loving 7!

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(Second monitor is extended desktop :) )

God I love Speedfan (and the speedfan gadget)!!
 
ToMMyGuN said:
I came from vista ultimate, so the UI isn't new to me, but i love it x1000 over xp. the aero glass, imo, really adds to the "wow" factor as well as functionality. I am still getting used to the new taskbar, but so far i am absolutely 100 percent loving 7!

Desktop.jpg

(Second monitor is extended desktop :) )

God I love Speedfan (and the speedfan gadget)!!
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The funny thing is that when I've put people in front of a Windows 7 (and Vista for that matter) machine that came from an XP machine, they seem to pick it up pretty easily.

I see more experienced types complaining about the UI than casual users. Just my personal observation.
 
I design GUi's and hate the windows 7 system in general. I think its not well designed.
 
heatlesssun said:
All I can say is that almost all of this is just wrong, sorry.

Always quicker to use the mouse to launch a program? That's just wrong. You can launch ANY program pined to the the task bar via Shift+Win+Taskbar Position. With a macro keyboard (which could do it anyway, I know) that's just one key.

Launch any program with two mouse clicks in XP. Sure. And depending on how many programs you have and screen size add about 5 minutes of waiting for sub menus to popup. The only difference in Vista/7 is manual scrolling and clicking. Not significantly different IMHO. 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
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In XP I have all of my most frequently used programs pinned to the start menu, as I will do when I move to Win7.

I used defrag as an example of something that I don't use every day, but when I do need to launch a program like that, it's still faster using the mouse than the keyboard. I don't know where you came up with 5 minutes of waiting for sub menus to open, it only takes a fraction of a second, and like I said, I used TweakUI to make them open even faster.

heatlesssun said:
And your last scenario, click, type, click, when it all could be done via the keyboard. Launching the control panel in Vista/7. Hit the "Win" key. Type "con" (depending on when you last used it and how many programs you have with "con" in them you may have to use the arrow types or type more of the word "control". Hit "Enter". No need to EVER touch the mouse. MUCH faster for even a not so great typist like myself.

7's GUI shell is EXTREMELY keyboard friendly. If you learn to use it to launch stuff instead of the mouse its MUCH faster.
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Your example of opening the control panel takes longer than using the mouse, even in XP or Win7. I have the control panel set to display as a menu on the start menu, so I just click start, move to control panel and click what I need. So once again I can access anything with two mouse clicks without the need to even touch the keyboard. Your example is a minimum of 4 keystrokes, and then you still have to move your hand back to the mouse to operate whatever program you launched.

Whether or not I click, type, click, or use the WIN key, type, hit enter, it makes no difference, you have to use the mouse anyway, so it's just a waste of time and not efficient to have to move your hand back and forth from the mouse to the keyboard. I type 80 WPM and I can still do it faster with the mouse.

This seems like a step back. First we had DOS where we had to type everything, to Windows where we could use a mouse and launch things with icons, to Win95 with a menu and now to Vista/Win7 we're back to using the keyboard.
 
jimnms said:
I have the control panel set to display as a menu on the start menu, so I just click start, move to control panel and click what I need.
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You can do the same in Win7.

You can also just pin the control panel to the task bar to get the same two clicks for any item.
 
Whether or not I click, type, click, or use the WIN key, type, hit enter, it makes no difference, you have to use the mouse anyway, so it's just a waste of time and not efficient to have to move your hand back and forth from the mouse to the keyboard. I type 80 WPM and I can still do it faster with the mouse.
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Wrong. Ever heard of the Enter key? Win+defr+Eter is tons faster than I could even move the mouse (forgetting about looking or clicking) to get to it in the XP start menu. Search takes away the visual searching, which is also huge. There's no NEED to go to Control Panel. Want to uninstall a program? Type "Uninstall". Want to edit your mouse settings? Type "Mouse". Etc.
 
jimnms said:
In XP I have all of my most frequently used programs pinned to the start menu, as I will do when I move to Win7.

I used defrag as an example of something that I don't use every day, but when I do need to launch a program like that, it's still faster using the mouse than the keyboard. I don't know where you came up with 5 minutes of waiting for sub menus to open, it only takes a fraction of a second, and like I said, I used TweakUI to make them open even faster.



Your example of opening the control panel takes longer than using the mouse, even in XP or Win7. I have the control panel set to display as a menu on the start menu, so I just click start, move to control panel and click what I need. So once again I can access anything with two mouse clicks without the need to even touch the keyboard. Your example is a minimum of 4 keystrokes, and then you still have to move your hand back to the mouse to operate whatever program you launched.

Whether or not I click, type, click, or use the WIN key, type, hit enter, it makes no difference, you have to use the mouse anyway, so it's just a waste of time and not efficient to have to move your hand back and forth from the mouse to the keyboard. I type 80 WPM and I can still do it faster with the mouse.

This seems like a step back. First we had DOS where we had to type everything, to Windows where we could use a mouse and launch things with icons, to Win95 with a menu and now to Vista/Win7 we're back to using the keyboard.
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When I said five I was obviously hyping it. My point is that if you have a lot of stuff installed, the XP Start Menu becomes a huge mess, especially on smaller screens.

As far as what's faster, the mouse of the keyboard, wouldn't that all depend on where your hand was at the time? If you're already typing on the keyboard, then moving back to the mouse would take more time and it would be faster you use the keyboard.

The problem with pointing and click through EVERYTHING is that the more stuff you have to point at and click on, the less efficient it becomes. It's just easier to type WIN+
"word"+ENTER some times. All of a persons main apps can be pinned to the taskbar. Lesser ones to to the Start Menu. My guess is that the average person could launch all of their stuff this way. And the lesser used stuff, hit a few keys now and then.

In the real world, Windows 7 makes it easier to do what you do most of the more easily, cleans up the exploding mess of the XP Start Menu and makes it much easier to find stuff, all rolled into a very tight system.

A lot of the times it not even about launching an application, its about find a document or file. Hands down Windows 7 kills XP in this area.

I bet that if you just thought a little differently about what you do and how you do it 7 would be not only faster but easier.

Honestly how many programs to you launch constantly? If you say more than four dozen I'd be a little skeptical. On a 1920x1200 monitor you can launch four dozen apps in one or two clicks. That's going to cover 99% of people no sweat. The only thing that I see that could an issue with even a big geek would be games, but with digital download services like Steam that becomes the launcher and the other stuff on disc will auto play. I guess there could be an issue with games ripped to a virtual drive, but then you could just use the Start Menu, ok two more clicks. XP wins! At the cost of everything else. Not a very good trade off.

The whole issue about XP being more efficient just doesn't have much merit as I see it. Can you instantly find any email, any document, any mp3, any video in XP natively? That feature makes the whole mouse argument moot at best.
 
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For control panel, you have a couple of options for easy access..

You can have it expand out as a classic menu -

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Or my new favorite, pinned to the taskbar with most recently accessed control panel applets on the jump list -

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Also, in the screenshot above, you see one of my most favorite components of Windows 7. The problem steps recorder.
 
I'm not too fond of the Win7 UI either. At least I don't see the point of changing it from the Win2k-style UI. I don't give a damn about the start menu as I have set up keyboard shortcuts using Win + R -> 2 or 3 letter acronym for application ('fz' for Filezilla, 'fx' for Firefox, etc.). I rarely see the start menu due to this.

I have read over all the 'improvements' (jump lists?!) Win7 offers UI-wise and tried the RCs, but it just doesn't do anything for me. I might install Win7 anyway if it didn't take up 16 GB while XP is installed in a 5 GB partition at the moment. Perhaps I'll look at it again in a few years or so :)
 
heatlesssun said:
The whole issue about XP being more efficient just doesn't have much merit as I see it.
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I believe it really comes down to, depending how you went about doing things in WinXP, Vista/Win7 at times requires you to make changes your old behavior and habits which you have potentially honed to peak efficiency/ease-of-use over the past 8 years. If you are unwilling to change some of your habits or just don't like or are unable to easily adapt to the new Win7 way of efficiently doing things, then yes, WinXP will remain more efficient for some people.
 
I hated Vista when I first started using it, and when I made the jump to Win 7 it wasn't too bad but I can see where you're coming from. Its a big change but all it takes is a little time and you'll get used to it.
 
As stated, getting to the control panel is simple in W7. There are many ways to do it. Click start, type "cont" and press enter. You can do that in less than 1 second. Or, just click the start menu, then click "control panel". Bam, two clicks. Or, have your control panel pinned to the taskbar. Bam, one click whenever you need it.

I like the new taskbar as well. I like the fact that your pinned app becomes highlighted as opposed to a whole new button appearing on the bar when you open a program. I like the stack feature where it basically combines multiple windows of the same program to save space on the taskbar. I also like how they took the "recent documents" feature a step further. When you right click on a pinned application, you'll get a list of recently opened documents for that specific application, rather than all the recent documents for all your different apps being cluttered into one pile.

It's also awesome how you can pin individual documents to it's parent program icon permanently. Say you're working with a .psd for Photoshop, and it's gonna take you at least 3 days to finish the project. Instead of having to click the program, then going to file>open and searching through folders for the .psd every time you open Photoshop, you can just right click the Photoshop icon, click your pinned document, and bam, the program starts with that document open. Once you're finally done with your whole project and you're no longer needing to use that specific file on a regular basis, just unpin the document from the right click menu. So basically, it's this: in the old system you'd have 1 click to open the program, then a 2nd click on the "File" menu, then another click to select "Open", then however-many more clicks to search through folders to get to the file. So that will be 4 clicks at the least, maybe more depending on how many folders you have to go through. Or, you could click the program to open it, then click "File", go down to the recent docs option, then click your document. That's still 3 clicks. The newer method is 1 right click, then another click on the pinned document to open it and its parent program. Bam, only 2 clicks. All the while, the document remains safe in it's actual location.

I think this new bar is light years ahead of the previous offerings.
 
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heatlesssun said:
The funny thing is that when I've put people in front of a Windows 7 (and Vista for that matter) machine that came from an XP machine, they seem to pick it up pretty easily.

I see more experienced types complaining about the UI than casual users. Just my personal observation.
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Having used XP for about around 6 years, with vista use around 3 years, i don't know if i fall under the category of inexperienced.. I have no beef with xp, i think win7 / vista is just as funtctional. the best part is it is just as functional to people without "experience", where xp can be daunting to someone without a little computer know-how (my grandpa, for example.) I think people are just a little stuck in their ways when it comes to xp :p
 
I think its funny how people are so used to xp, and all the shortcuts and workarounds they've developed/used over the years to make it better. What you are saying by doing that is xp didn't get it right in the first place. If you forget your hacks and start to learn again, win7 is quite nice.

I have a question though. Aero peek is pretty neat, especially with tabs in ie, but when I have ie open with tabs, I have to hover over the ie icon, get the aero peek, then click on one of the windows. I can't just click on the icon and bring up the window on whatever tab it was left on, at least it doesnt seem to work that way for me.

Another question and I hate to jump on this thread, but is there a way to download all the extra win7 features through win7, for example windows xp mode in win7 pro. I found where I can dl it online, but wondering if it can be done from within win7.
 
Help, help! I'm an elitist nerd who is terrified of change and must stick to my antiquated methods and subpar performance forever, AT ALL COSTS, even though 2+ generations of operating systems have come out with better performance and ease of use, and also still allow me to use my broken methods of computing!

Embrace the future or become more elitist and irrelevant to modern computing than you already are.
 
Elitist implies the person actually is supuior, but an ass.

Idiot seems to be a better choice.
 
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