NVIDIA and its own Eyefinity?

My next video card will have "Eyefinity" Technology

  • AMD ATI HD 5899 Series all the way, no others!

    Votes: 143 39.8%

  • Fermi with "nFinity?" It has to be!

    Votes: 94 26.2%

  • I do not care about this multi-monitor gaming crap.

    Votes: 140 39.0%

  • 3D Vision is all I need, and this lamp.

    Votes: 29 8.1%
  • Total voters
    359
The difference between the Qudro and normal card are driver activated features.
you want "nfinity" use : RivaTuner.
 
3D Vision AND three screens, please.

I've already got the 3D Vision (and no, I can't live without it) :)
 
Personally im more excited of 3D Vision... Haven't seen it personally but if it works properly with out flicker and headache it could be awesome
 
I think the main thing that has held this off from being offered until now by either graphics card company, has been that the GPU's couldn't necessarily push the pixels. I do think we are getting much closer tho, than years past.

All around setups with say 8 widescreens would be sweet for flight sims, racing sims. And just 3 front screens probably can help even in FPS games. Many games likely can already be made to support this, although not in the in-game menus. For example you can set custom height and custom width in quake3 engine games by editing the cfg, and as long as the aspect ratio can be adjusted as well, it should be doable. In fact I know years ago I saw q3 running on 3 front screens with a matrox solution (around 2003 at a CPL) and again in 2006 with some other company selling the whole setup. The guy was playing WOW on it, tho for wow I didn't see the need. The game would need the option of say re-positioning the HUD so that it stays centered. Chances are it would be quite easy to add to most games out there.

For me, I wouldn't want to give up too much in the way of Frames per second to do this tho, and I would only choose a triple setup over a dual, so theres no split/bezel right in the middle (where the crosshairs go). So as long as the GPU is powerful enough.... Chances are for now this is something for SLI and crossfire users.
 
Here's a good case for multimonitors with bezels:

<insert name of your favorite MMO here>
nearly all MMOs have fully customizeable interfaces. Spread your self out over 3 landscape screens and you get:

[1][2][3]

Where:
[1] shows your health bars and party health bars
[2] shows your character and that around him
[3] shows map, inventory, etc.
 
With the talk of, why upgrade when my current card handles everything thrown at it, AMD just gave a reason of why to upgrade.
 
I think eyefinity is a really nice thing, and besides it seemed to work really well and easily. It's time to get support for multiple monitors and or better resolutions. It's clear that this isn't for everyone especially for gaming needs, just like SLI/CFire or high end cards, but support and more displays is a good thing.
 
If this is something nvidia can add without any additional work, then I say why not? The problem is this will cannibalize their quadro sales as people can just buy the consumer grade cards at much lower prices.

Ah crap, that means they won't do it then ...
 
Matrox Digital Triple Head 2 Go user here. Had it for approx 6 months now, and I am a hardcore CoD guy. I have 3 GTX 285s (stock, but watercooled) and 3 Dell 22in monitors on an Ergotron stand.

There are PB approved "hacks" that tweak the FoV so that it isn't stretched.

Kyle, check this out:

http://imk.cx/pc/widescreenfixer/

Guy goes by the name of Dopefish, and his stuff has been chopped by EvenBalance. You should DL the latest version and then re-try CoD:WaW. Like I said, been using it for some time now and absolutely no probs. Dope's a good guy.

As to EyeFinity, if it does what it says it does, this is a sure-fire home run. Monitor prices are dropping like a hot rock. And it was stated elsewhere in this thread re: the incredible advantage three monitors give you. I can attest to that. Once the pro gamers pick up on this, it's a done deal. Not only that, NVidia has stopped supporting the Matrox DTH2Go. Not that it's a huge issue, but everyone with the Matrox setup is still using a 190 series NVidia driver because NVidia hasn't come out with another one that works. Sucks.

Gonna pick up some AMD stock soon.

EyeFinity is the way of the future, and it's gonna hit far sooner that most think.

Hope that NVidia untucks their tails and comes out with something similar. Always been an NVidia guy, but this is too good to pass up.
 
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Gonna pick up some AMD stock soon.
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I'd take a long and hard look at that before you do. Just remember you are buying AMD stock and not ATI stock. I think ATI is doing some great things, but AMD is still the parrent company you are buying.
 
Kowan said:
You forgot us old farts whinning about them young whipper snappers and their lightning reflexs! :D
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I try to make up for being seasoned by having top of the line Equiptment and Highest possible connectivity.. But alas, tis always a better gamer around sometimes. What I like is when I hand it to peeps and they find out I'm 55. The responses are eclectic..
 
I think the EyeFinity concept is very exciting.

I just picked up a Dell 2408 with the display port in anticipation of this.

As soon as Crossfire X is compatable with EyeFinity, I think I'm there.

There is something that keeps telling me to wait for nvidia.......but I'm not so sure their focus is going to stay with gaming, and I think ATI maybe will be the source fro here on out.

I just hope the developers get on board.:D
 
I think ATI is drumming up a lot of interest in their product this round and if Nvidia wants to squash the move before it picks up too much momentum, they are going to have to incorporate similar support.

Triple monitor gaming WITH 3D vision would put them over the top, lol.
 
As I game from my Sofa 5ft from the TV, the only way I can use multi monitor is to have my 22" LCD in portrait mode to the side of my 42" TV.
--the 22" positioned (and distanced) so they both look the same size vertically, viewed from my sitting position.
(reason: to get the screen sizes to match up in normal horizontal mode, the 22" has to be very close to my head which is not practical)
Until they allow different resolutions to scale to the same height and be able to accurately set up the horizontal view size/scaling on mismatched screens, I have no situation where it is usable.
It must NOT distort the FOV. I saw a possible solution to this mentioned earlier but I dont know how well it works or how easy it is.

The above is essential for me to even try it, the following are highly desirable and I wont pay 'extra' to get multimonitor until they have been achieved:
Allow easy configuration of HUD and menu placement for non multi monitor aware programs, may not be possible but in a few years old games wont matter as much.
Include decent bezel management in the driver.
Be able to use max game settings without using more than 1 gfx card. A tough one as there needs to be some market for more than 1 gfx card so this may never happen except when playing older games not needing as much power.


Nice technology, NVidia should definitely jump on the bandwagon.
I just have no way of using it in its current state.


trinibwoy:
ATI dont have good 3D support fyi :)
 
Bohica69 said:
After watching the video review you did Kyle, and seeing the difference in the racing games, HOLY CRAP. I WANT IT. And Nvidia should support it. Like you said, what bezels? The immersion of speed looks amazing.
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The racing was damn impressive. The peripheral vision took it to a whole new level.
 
trinibwoy said:
Side question, is Eyefinity only enabled for certain apps or in 3D or is it always on even on the windows desktop?
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Watch the Video review Kyle did :) he shows you how to enable it, and how it works.

Watch it :p
 
If I knew this was coming out a couple months ago I might not have bought my 26 in samsung. I like racing games and the eyfinity definately gives a better preception of speed from what I saw in Kyles video.

I will be waiting for Brents review of the 5850 vs 5870 eyefinity performance review before deciding which card to get. After that purchase I will say so long to the 8800gt sli setup.
 
can't afford multiple monitors, so I'm not paying attention to this tech much, to be honest, after the ooh-aah wore off.
 
For me it would depend a lot on if they can figure out a way to do eyefinity without having to have one of the monitors be display port. If I'm going to shell out money for two more monitors I want it to look nice. I could get a displayport model I guess but then i'd want another 245BW so that my side monitors would match (I'm picky like that). But rather than buy an expensive displayport monitor to replace the samsung i'm already happy with, i'd much rather be able to buy two cheap 24" monitors for the sides and keep using my Samsung 245BW as my main - that wouldn't work unless the cheap monitors i find happen to have displayport, which I doubt.

Until then my 4850's in crossfire are still plenty fast, already use multiple monitors for ventrilo, etc.
 
Oh, and one other thing - can't justify moving to a new video card yet. The main system is on a GTX285, and the secondary is on a 4870. No need to swap either of those for relatively minor gains (given what they do) just for multiple monitors.
 
I think more display ports per card should become a standard feature for all high end video cards, this new mini display port thing is really good, all high end cards should have at a minimum 3 of those for the typical ultra wide setup, but anymore squeezed on is a bonus.

The technology to span monitors isn't exactly rocket science, that should be fairly easy to build, it's just the hardware needs to be there.
 
Well it nice toi see ATI catching up to Nvidia as far as this goes but yea been doing triple monitor for years and years in fact it was the reason I stuck with Nvidia cards. You do know you can do this with most nvidia cards if done right.
 
Dan_D said:
I certainly believe that given today's monitor prices that NVIDIA needs to step up to the plate and offer a feature that is very similar if not exactly like Eyefinity. Granted multi-monitor gaming isn't for everyone but when you can buy 23" LCD's for $199.99 each I think that it is a fairly compelling solution.
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$600 + $280 for a 5850. $900 for a gaming feature. It's a cool feature but you could build a brand new system for that. Eyefinity doesn't seem like it has a very good cost to benefit ratio.

Maybe I'm just jealous. I wish I was rich like all of you guys.
 
Bankie said:
$600 + $280 for a 5850. $900 for a gaming feature. It's a cool feature but you could build a brand new system for that. Eyefinity doesn't seem like it has a very good cost to benefit ratio.

Maybe I'm just jealous. I wish I was rich like all of you guys.
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No, it's definitely expensive. But, for what it's worth, monitors aren't something you swap out all that often - I treat them like a case, once you buy a good one, you keep it for quite a while most of the time. They don't die all that often. But, it is definitely expensive.
 
Bankie said:
$600 + $280 for a 5850. $900 for a gaming feature. It's a cool feature but you could build a brand new system for that. Eyefinity doesn't seem like it has a very good cost to benefit ratio.

Maybe I'm just jealous. I wish I was rich like all of you guys.
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Expensive is relative. To me $219.99 for a 23" LCD that does 2048x1152 is damn cheap.

In contrast I paid $1,299.99 for my Dell 3007WFP. I usually have at least two graphics cards so that's normally anywhere between $1,000 to $1,300 unless I'm using 3-Way SLI in which case the cost is higher than that. My current Geforce GTX 280 3-Way SLI setup cost over $1,600. Add that to the cost of the monitor and $399.99 for a 5870 and $680 for 3 decent monitors is a bargain.
 
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most people can barely afford a home, let alone multi-displays.

i'd rather see higher color depths, DPI increases, stuff that will practically affect our lives instead of more gimmicks.
 
I would not mind having the option for 3 monitors but with the bezels it just sucks for me.
Besides, I am not going back to 2d flat world after 3D Vision so both would have to work or it is 3D all the way for me.
Regards
 
styx0r said:
eye finity is not a new technology, or a new concept. I can't BELIEVE that [H] has been so impressed by it - while I understand the implementation is good, ATI is nowhere close to an innovator in this technology. There are free programs available that will allow you to render on multiple displays, just like eyefinity, for free, with any GPU capable of pushing that many pixels (both nvidia and ati's previous gen GPUs are capable of this, albeit at lower frame rates)

Yes, ATI brought this technology closer to the mainstream, but it isn't anything new, and I don't think Nvidia is concerned about it in the slightest. I believe they will quietly offer the same multi-mon rendering options, while also offering 3d vision. Like your news article said, this tech has been around and implemented on quatro GPUs without 3rd party software. ATI is pretending like they've broken new ground, when really, they've just refreshed an idea that's been around for a long time, and made it easier for the average "enthusiast" to implement.

I'm no Nvidia or ATI fanboy - I just want real innovation.
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What is the software that can do what eyefinity does for free?
 
SoftTH

You'll see that it's only compatible with DirectX 8 and 9 games, but it's free, and it's been around for a few years. ATI was not first to this party.
 
Yeah, I remember looking up widescreen gamming a while back and comming across SoftTH... but I was too poor then to have 3 screens, and nothing has changed. If I had 3 screens laying around I'd certainly try it. But it doesn't seem like something I'd spend an extra 400$ on either.
 
To quote myself -
Sabrewulf... said:
I am not in the market for a multi-monitor gaming PERIOD

They already make you think multi-card gaming is a necessity and then you must have another "GRAPHICS" card just for PhysX, because all that fancy shit could never be done on the multi-core CPU you have now. But wait, whats this? The next greatest thing for gaming? Now you just have to get up to speed with "multi-monitor gaming". And then there will be games that are made for and require multi-monitors? B.S.

Really, I'm not jaded... The shit just seems to be getting a bit thick. Now I think the tech is very impressive and has many potential applications outside of gaming that seem much more useful. (medical, scientific, engineering) But pushing this toward gamers. Meh, you all can have it.

As I said in another post, when they come out with a single large curved display, kinda like the one below, then I'm in.

http://www.necdisplay.com/NewTechnologies/CurvedDisplay/downloads/FrontPers2_3_NEC2.jpg
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cybereality said:
Where have you been, its already out:
http://www.projectorsuperstore.com/product_details.cfm?productid=4523

Feel like blowing $8k on that monitor? Didn't think so.
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I said kinda like that one. For one, I would never buy a rear projection monitor, nor am I a fan of ANY type of backlit display technology (LCD), That's why I am still on my 21" Hitachi CRT @ 1856x1392.

I'll wait for the OLED, FED or SED displays to come out, I have plenty of nice backup CRT's if this one craps out.
 
Thinking about it I bet the GF100 will only have two display outputs (as no time to change design) but they'll use their quadro driver knowledge to support 4 displays in SLI. So you'll need SLI if you want eye finity. I bet the first card to support 3 or more displays will be the dual GF100.
 
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