Gaming TV for PS3

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Gawd
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Hello all,

I'm going to purchase a PS3 here shortly and I wanted to an appropriate TV to go with it. This would be my first console since the PS1. I don't know much about HD TVs or why prices have so much fluctuation.

I was thinking about purchasing this TV.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889101138

However, why is a smaller TV such as the one posted below, cost more than the 52''?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889102198

Can someone enlighten me? Which would be best for gaming?
 
I'd recommend heading over to AVS Forums if you plan on purchasing a new TV. It's a lot of info to digest over there but if you're serious about finding the right TV then it worth the time investment.

LCD Forum
Plasma Forum

I'm personally using a Plasma 50" Panasonic G10 and it works great for gaming and blu ray watching. There is zero latency and the picture quality is superb. I wouldn't discount a Plasma TV even for gaming.
 
I second Panasonic VIERAs. They're pretty good out of the box, even better when calibrated.

Although, once you see a Pioneer Kuro Elite, you can't unsee the perfection that is the Kuro Elite :\
 
I will look into that forum, thanks.

Is there any major difference between the two TVs that I posted? I wonder why the smaller one cost almost $400 more.
 
I will look into that forum, thanks.

Is there any major difference between the two TVs that I posted? I wonder why the smaller one cost almost $400 more.

I believe Samsung is providing higher quality LCD panels these days than Sharp. The Samsung model is also using a 120hz refresh rate which is the new selling point for a lot of LCD's. It helps smooth out rapid movement which can be known to tear frames on an LCD screen. If you're choosing between the two I would go with the Samsung.

Here is a thread in regards to your Samsung posted above and how it performs during gaming sessions. Link
 
I have a 32" 720P Vizio I bought for $450 1.5 years ago. I love it for my PS3.
 
I have the 40" version of that Sharp TV. I'd say buy that, there is nearly no input lag.
 
A Plasma Kuro (or alternatively a Panasonic Plasma G serie) is your ticket for gaming heaven.
 
I would highly reccomend checking out local electronics stores first and see what tvs you like, not saying buy from them but get an idea for the different tvs your looking at, just make sure they are using decent connections, a great hdtv will look like crap if it's using standard def inputs. Opinions greatly vary on which set looks the best, I think the sony series looks the clearest while friends love samsung. You'll probably have this for a while so you want to really research it. Also see if you really like the 120hz, for gaming it makes sense, but I realy hate it for watching regular tv/movies, because it makes everything look like it was filmed on a cheap camera, my opinion.
 
I posted a similar question in the Display forum, and was told that since games only olay at 60Hz, having a 120Hz tele can actually increase input lag.
Also, he linked the ToC 46" Samsung, but for $600 dollars less you can get a non-ToC 46" samsung with a 60Hz refresh rate.
Opinions?
http://hardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1432863
 
I'd recommend heading over to AVS Forums if you plan on purchasing a new TV. It's a lot of info to digest over there but if you're serious about finding the right TV then it worth the time investment.

LCD Forum
Plasma Forum

I'm personally using a Plasma 50" Panasonic G10 and it works great for gaming and blu ray watching. There is zero latency and the picture quality is superb. I wouldn't discount a Plasma TV even for gaming.

That plasma has 600hz refresh rate? I thought the standard for high end TVs was around 120hz. Is that correct? or is that only for LCDs?
 
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Yes. that only applies to LCD HDTV and it is not true 120hz anyway. It is really 60hz doubled or something like that. I see there is 240hz LCD now also but they are very expensive. I use Plasma for PS3 but Plasma does have more issues with image retention even though they have anti burn in technology now. All thye do is move the screen a couple of pixels every couple of minutes which does not guarantee no burn in, just lessens the chance of it happening. With Plasma you should always enable screen savers.
 
I also recommend the Panasonic if you're going plasma. I researched and went to a bunch of stores before buying my tv. I ended up choosing a 52" Samsung 530 series lcd and don't regret the decision at all. I was going to get an Aquos but noticed the black levels aren't as good and I also noticed some ghosting on their panels.
 
Curious why anyone would want to go with plasma? Doesn't the screen get burn in easily, and doesn't color/brightness fade quickly over time?
 
i love my plasma but I definitely burned the shit out of it... they all will. Playing any game with a persistant hud will cause burn in. Pixel shift and white screen and scrolling help but they don't "fix" the burn in just lessen it.

I have the Halo Wars build menu slightly burned into mine lol. If you go plasma just remember this and take more breaks while playing and use the white screen and scrolling features after every time you play. I usually set the scrolling on with the sleep timer on then go to bed..
 
^ Yeah, thats what I figured. Yikes! Why would anyone buy a plasma knowingly if this is a common thing?
 
and doesn't color/brightness fade quickly over time?

Not any more. They have increased their life span greatly. Burn in can still be an issue only if you are careless and leave it on a static screen for too long. I use Plasma for gaming and have no burn in. I was starting to get uneven wear of the screen by using 4:3 for SDTV all the time though but I had that issue with an LCD HDTV too. Using 4:3 on any 16:9 HDTV no matter the technology used will cause uneven wear of the screen over time. Now I zoom 4:3 so it is full screen and the correct aspect ratio. That cuts off some of the top and bottom of the picture but at least I get even wear of the screen and it is correct aspect ratio.
 
i love my plasma but I definitely burned the shit out of it... they all will. Playing any game with a persistant hud will cause burn in. Pixel shift and white screen and scrolling help but they don't "fix" the burn in just lessen it.

I have the Halo Wars build menu slightly burned into mine lol. If you go plasma just remember this and take more breaks while playing and use the white screen and scrolling features after every time you play. I usually set the scrolling on with the sleep timer on then go to bed..

My LG doesn't have scrolling. It has pixel shift, pure white screen and reverse image colour. I just use pixel shift and have had no burn in yet but I don't game on my PS3 for really long periods of time either.
 
That's strange, I used to have a 42" low end Daytek plasma and never got burn in. All I noticed was that if I gamed and then went to an all black screen I would still see the HUD. After 2 min it would be gone. People go with plasma because of the better black levels and contrast ratio. They also have a higher refresh rate with little to no ghosting.
 
I went with a Sony XBR LCD TV, and it's been the best purchase I've made on any electronics thus far. In my mind, Sony is the king of LCD TVs (albeit not the best price/performance), and Pioneer is (or was, as it will turn out to be) the king of plasmas. In tier 2, I'd put Samsung and Sharp for LCD, and Panasonic for Plasma. Just my 2 cents of course.

I definitely second the recommendation of going with a 1080p TV. You'll thank yourself later when you decide to hook up your PC to it to do some big screen gaming at 1920 x 1080. As one person eluded to, this TV is going to be an investment and you WILL likely have it for many years down the road, and you never know what you'll be using it for in all that time -- it may not just be for the PS3.

And some rec's for the PS3 if you needed any, make sure you get Killzone 2 (demo on PSN if you want to try it out), and definitely look into getting Fat Princess on PSN when that drops later this summer.

Spend at least one week on avsforum before you buy ANY TV... there is a dedicated thread to just about each make/model, so you'll get comments from people with first hand experience with the TV *you* are going to be spending the next 5-10 years with.
 
Plasma has better viewing angles and picture. I don't buy the burn in.

I've got a Panasonic plasma, and done the stupid and passed out with a static screen on it a couple times, no problems.
 
I have a Panasonic Viera plasma and have no burn-in; even from 10 hour gaming marathons. After long gaming sessions I can see a little image retention but it's gone almost as soon as I move to a different source.

If you get a plasma make sure you break it in (spend the first 100 hours or so making sure it's not on anything that will promote screen retention) and you'll have no issues. The image retention is a little disconcerting at first but after break-in it's almost totally non-existant.
 
I would highly reccomend checking out local electronics stores first and see what tvs you like, not saying buy from them but get an idea for the different tvs your looking at, just make sure they are using decent connections, a great hdtv will look like crap if it's using standard def inputs. Opinions greatly vary on which set looks the best, I think the sony series looks the clearest while friends love samsung. You'll probably have this for a while so you want to really research it. Also see if you really like the 120hz, for gaming it makes sense, but I realy hate it for watching regular tv/movies, because it makes everything look like it was filmed on a cheap camera, my opinion.

Eastpetersen is 100% right. ...and on top of that take a bluray movie and ask that they play it on the tv. These stores love to show beautiful still nature shots. Which every HD tv does perfectly. You want to see what it does when tv does quick pans. I bought a vizio for price, my eyes bled from all the artifacting. I returned it for a smaller and more expensive Sony Bravia. OMG the difference was amazing, in store it was harder to see but on my home setup with my lighting conditions it was night and day.
 
Plasma has better viewing angles and picture. I don't buy the burn in.

I've got a Panasonic plasma, and done the stupid and passed out with a static screen on it a couple times, no problems.

Don't buy the burn in? I can assure you, its real:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=active&q=channel+logo+plasma+burn+in&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&fp=Dt9YA0hUQTE

I recall watching a news article about a class action lawsuit (I think against ABC?) because their logo burned into plasma owner's sets.

Maybe it was this one..

http://gizmodo.com/150044/plasma-burn+in-from-too-much-sports
 
Don't buy the burn in? I can assure you, its real:
Maybe it was this one..

http://gizmodo.com/150044/plasma-burn+in-from-too-much-sports

The article you have linked is from Jan 2006. I would imagine the technology has advanced significantly in three years time. From everything I've read over at AVS burn is almost non existent with current plasma screens. They are still susceptible to Image Retention while viewing a blank input screen but it's only temporary and unnoticeable while viewing content on the television. I've put in almost 300 hours on my G10, quite a few gaming, and haven't noticed any signs of burn in.

Having said that I wouldn't leave an image on the screen for an obscene amount of time. We have a CRT montior at work that has shortcut icons burned into the screen. Should everyone with CRT monitors now be concerned about burn in?
 
Eastpetersen is 100% right. ...and on top of that take a bluray movie and ask that they play it on the tv. These stores love to show beautiful still nature shots. Which every HD tv does perfectly. You want to see what it does when tv does quick pans. I bought a vizio for price, my eyes bled from all the artifacting. I returned it for a smaller and more expensive Sony Bravia. OMG the difference was amazing, in store it was harder to see but on my home setup with my lighting conditions it was night and day.


The problem is that the manufacturers calibrate the TV's to try and stand out from the rest by boosting contrast and color so viewing them in the show room is not all that useful really because none of them are ever set to my calibration preference. I find all TV's have over saturated color by default and have never seen one with correct contrast setting either.
 
I have a samsung lnt 46 a 650, and i love it , sure they are alot cheaper now, has the 120 also
 
I believe Samsung is providing higher quality LCD panels these days than Sharp. The Samsung model is also using a 120hz refresh rate which is the new selling point for a lot of LCD's. It helps smooth out rapid movement which can be known to tear frames on an LCD screen. If you're choosing between the two I would go with the Samsung.

Here is a thread in regards to your Samsung posted above and how it performs during gaming sessions. Link

Samsung has many great options but so does Sharp. I personally would prefer one of the higher end models from either of these companies but would choose a 120hz samsung over a 60hz Sharp any day
 
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